Origin of non-christian religions

[wx47]

Hi everyone,

I would like to ask question about origin of non-christian religions (this is my first post , I'm christian )
OK - so I've been thinking and idea came:
As a christian, I believe in God, his creation of universe . There are, however, other religions such as buddhism, taoism, muslim, etc.
They don't believe in God *AND* because God is one who created universe (and they don't believe in him), their gods doesn't exist. Because there is good (God) and then evil (absence of God) - and they don't believe in him, are they product of evil (I mean those religions) ?
Are they work of evil to draw attention not to God, but to something other ?
OK, and last question - (if answer to last question is yes) - are those people evil / bad becouse there are spreading their non-christian religion ? (maybe there don't mean to do bad thing - they believe that they are doing good, but unknowingly doing bad)

(DISCLAIMER: I do not want to harass or find excuse to disdain non-christian people, I just want to know answer to stated questions)

Many thanks

[NMSquirrel]

I do believe that God intends to possess our hearts (him acting through us, not us acting). The story I have studied involves Christ acting as the leader of his "body"
one in which God acts through us, rather than us acting ourselves. Voluntary abandonment of your own free will.

yes God through us..
but not without us..God will put it in our hearts to act,but we still have the choice not to act.

[ConiectoErgoSum]

It's a process - getting to the point where we've let God's influence so consume us that the heart is re-oriented. so yeah I agree, we have a choice not to act rightly. Actions are derived from the orientation of your heart (i.e. the core of who you are).

[catalyst]

Hi everyone,

I would like to ask question about origin of non-christian religions (this is my first post , I'm christian )

OK - so I've been thinking and idea came:
As a christian, I believe in God, his creation of universe . There are, however, other religions such as buddhism, taoism, muslim, etc.
They don't believe in God *AND* because God is one who created universe (and they don't believe in him), their gods doesn't exist. Because there is good (God) and then evil (absence of God) - and they don't believe in him, are they product of evil (I mean those religions) ?
Are they work of evil to draw attention not to God, but to something other ?
OK, and last question - (if answer to last question is yes) - are those people evil / bad becouse there are spreading their non-christian religion ? (maybe there don't mean to do bad thing - they believe that they are doing good, but unknowingly doing bad)

(DISCLAIMER: I do not want to harass or find excuse to disdain non-christian people, I just want to know answer to stated questions)

Many thanks

I quess you didn't like the answers you received, so scurried off to troll elsewhere.

Perhaps you should realise that your God concept and especially christianity are latter, also-ran "religions" or philosophies.

One of the oldest known religions in the world is that of Nummoh, which is more about the "goddess" model. This dates back to over 15000 years ago, which really leaves your younger "God" of Judaism and Jesus ( a latching onto the Judaic god model) of Christianity in the dust.

Taoism has been around over 3000 years prior to your Jesus model, Buddhism was also around prior to christianity and some records state, prior to judaism.

Now, Islam is a latter also-ran like Christianity - involving the God of Judaism in its beliefs.

Perhaps it should be asked of you. How did YOUR god model allegedly create all, when he "Himself" did not exist PRIOR to these other religions/philosophies?

Also, the word God is derived from a germanic word Gut, meaning Good. That in itself has nothing to do with any monotheistic god figure, but more so to do with dodgy translation of "original" texts and really nothing more than what perhaps your pastor interprets from it and verbalises, and what you choose to take on board from his "take".

No one, even the most evil serial killer ever been, is without some flicker of "gut" (good = ie god) within them. Same with even men and women of "the cloth", molesting children and the like.

The Jesus fellow you choose to follow is modelled on prior "christ" figures as well, whereby giving the concept of "Him"(your christ), no originality either.

As your bible tells you, in Matthew 7:7 and Luke 11:9, seek and you shall find your answers.

Interestingly, there is no disclaimer telling you that you should look no further than your book of mythology for the truth. If genesis 1:1 is all the evidence you need for you to come to your conclusion as to the whole creation concept, then it's YOU selling the words of Matthew and Luke short (storytellers of YOUR God model, remember).

[ConiectoErgoSum]

Ya dude hindsight rocks. Reality becomes so... so obvious!

[happy forever]

All that aside, you believe in one representation of 'God'. Saying, "I believe in God." is a blanket statement that could be describing one of thousands of different representations of 'God'.

This could be a very interesting thread..

there is one thing i will put out, that i think it would keep the thread from derailing into an argument about which religion is correct....

I am not sure if anyone else can believe this..

I believe God shows each of us a different side of him, so that no two descriptions of God are ever alike, it is my belief that if we were all to get together to discuss the similarities and differences without making it about who is right and who is wrong, then maybe we could understand God better..

that said, i have heard of a thing in religion that talks about the '7 Churches'.

What if each church see's a different side of God?
this does not make any one of them right..but it also does not make any of them wrong.

Which side do you see from god?
May be I and you agree in some descriptions.

[happy forever]

Hi everyone,

(DISCLAIMER: I do not want to harass or find excuse to disdain non-christian people, I just want to know answer to stated questions)

Many thanks

Do you mean that disbelieving The Creator is evil?

If this is your question, the answer is complicated a little bit. We can think only but it is not us who to decide because it is not us who will judge. Yes?

The Creator created humans (only) with mind and all other creatures are without so all creatures except humans know their God by nature and humans only who must use their minds to know Him or else why we have minds??

As primitive, can you know your God by yourself???
The answer of this question is the answer of your question.

[Laško]

Of all the religions in the world, the Judeo-Christian religions are unique in that they believe that there religion is the one and only true religion and all other religions are "evil." All other religions recognize the existence and validity of other religions.

I used to be one of those Christian believers who ignorantly believed that Christianity was the one true religion. Then I started studying my family history and realized that my ancestors worshiped Odin, Frigg and Thor. About 1500 years ago Christianity, a very new religion, or should I say cult, at that time, forced my ancestors to convert or be killed.

I find it very ironic that Christians today often complain that Christians around the world are being forced to convert to another religion or be killed, don't they understand that this is karma, they are receiving what they once gave.

[happy forever]

Of all the religions in the world, the Judeo-Christian religions are unique in that they believe that there religion is the one and only true religion and all other religions are "evil." All other religions recognize the existence and validity of other religions.

I used to be one of those Christian believers who ignorantly believed that Christianity was the one true religion. Then I started studying my family history and realized that my ancestors worshiped Odin, Frigg and Thor. About 1500 years ago Christianity, a very new religion, or should I say cult, at that time, forced my ancestors to convert or be killed.

I find it very ironic that Christians today often complain that Christians around the world are being forced to convert to another religion or be killed, don't they understand that this is karma, they are receiving what they once gave.

Islam is the only true religion.

"Verily the religion of Allah is Islam" Quran

Christianity and Judaism are changed completely even their names.

Allah orders us to believe in all messengers and prophets and all books sent from Allah.
We Muslims believe in Noah, Mosa, Isa, Muhammad peace be upon them and we believe in Zabor, Taurah, Injeel and Quran.

So we believe in the message of Mosa and the message of Jesus but consider that neither Mosa nor his followers called jews nor Jesus nor his followers called Christians.

The only common name and description for all of them and unify the messages of Allah through previous generations is Muslim.

Abraham was Muslim, Mosa was Muslim, Jesus and his followers were Muslims.

And Islam is the only true religion now because it cancelled the previous messages.
They were the religion of Allah at their eras as Jews were disbelievers when they rejected the message of Jesus also Christians are Jews are disbelievers to reject the message of messenger of Allah Muhammad peace be upon him.

Islam is different because it is the last message and Muhammad is the last prophet and Quran is the last book sent for all humanity till The Last Day.

In order to be sure, check yourself the meaning of Islam and Muslim, the meaning of Christianity and Judaism and judge yourself which religion is the true only from its name.

The first message of all religions and the first commandment in these three heaven religions is "No god but The One God".

La Ilah Ila Allah

[Question Everything]

And Islam is the only true religion now because it cancelled the previous messages.

Non Stamp Collector could have a good time with this one:

325AD

God "Oh, no, those humans, they have got it all wrong!"

Angel "What's wrong, Lord?"

God "They are saying that Jesus is part of me! That he died on a cross for their sins!"

Angel "Jesus was just a messenger, right?"

God "He was, but they seem to have totally misunderstood his message!"

Angel "What are you going to do, Lord?"

God "Let me think about it a bit."

400AD

Angel "Anything you going to do about this, Lord?"

God "I'm still thinking."

500AD

Angel "Anything you going to do about this, Lord?"

God "I'm still thinking."

600AD

Angel "Anything you going to do about this, Lord?"

God "I'm still thinking."

700AD

Angel "Anything you going to do about this, Lord?"

God "I'm still thinking."

800AD

Angel "Anything you going to do about this, Lord?"

God "I've got it! See that man down there, the one named Muhammad? I'm going to send him."

Angel "He's nowhere near them, Lord. They don't even know who he is."

God "Details!"

Islam is different because it is the last message and Muhammad is the last prophet and Quran is the last book sent for all humanity till The Last Day.

The LDS Church might have a dispute with you about that.

[happy forever]

And Islam is the only true religion now because it cancelled the previous messages.

Non Stamp Collector could have a good time with this one:

325AD

God "Oh, no, those humans, they have got it all wrong!"

Angel "What's wrong, Lord?"

God "They are saying that Jesus is part of me! That he died on a cross for their sins!"

Angel "Jesus was just a messenger, right?"

God "He was, but they seem to have totally misunderstood his message!"

Angel "What are you going to do, Lord?"

God "Let me think about it a bit."

400AD

Angel "Anything you going to do about this, Lord?"

God "I'm still thinking."

500AD

Angel "Anything you going to do about this, Lord?"

God "I'm still thinking."

600AD

Angel "Anything you going to do about this, Lord?"

God "I'm still thinking."

700AD

Angel "Anything you going to do about this, Lord?"

God "I'm still thinking."

800AD

Angel "Anything you going to do about this, Lord?"

God "I've got it! See that man down there, the one named Muhammad? I'm going to send him."

Angel "He's nowhere near them, Lord. They don't even know who he is."

God "Details!"

Islam is different because it is the last message and Muhammad is the last prophet and Quran is the last book sent for all humanity till The Last Day.

The LDS Church might have a dispute with you about that.

I am seeker of the truth and defender of science.

Let's use our agreement and try to find the truth ourselves.

Your conversation implies a sense of logic but you talk about god in bad way.

God is The All Knowing, The All seeing.

You are right. We didn't see Prophet Muhammad and didn't see Prophet Jesus, what is the proof of them and their miracles??

You tell me first then I tell you why I do believe in Allah and His angels and His books and all His prophets and messengers with no distinction between anyone of them.

Allah guide us and forgive us.