Sodom, Greece, Rome and homosexuality.

AlAyeti · Post by **AlAyeti** » Sun Jul 03, 2005 11:00 pm

Does allowing for diversity include parents having no voice in what their children are forced to be taught and have to accept?

Do Christians and the many other cultures and belief systems opposed to homosexuality have the right to have their culture and religious views respected in society when it comes to decent and natural sexual behavior in the education system and in public?

Are homosexuals demanding accesss to children under the label of diversity and anti-hate legislation?

This seems the number one issue between average and normal "family" people and the homosexual agenda.

Can there be laws passed that keeps homosexuality from becoming forced on children and families that oppose it, without the homosexual community and homosexual action organizations crying discrimination?

Is there such a thing anymore as heterosexual rights?

trencacloscas · Post by **trencacloscas** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 2:16 pm

To believe in non-existent or delusional entities like God or Jesus, shouldn't be considered aberrant?
Brain was made for thinking, not for believing ridiculous fantasies of almighty gods and crucified hobos. Should that deviant attitude be tolerated? Isn't it poisoning our children minds?

AlAyeti · Post by **AlAyeti** » Sun Jul 10, 2005 9:28 pm

Wow an ad hom on Christianity. How original.

But you think that the anatomy can be violated and that people who are supposedly intelligent, to use their brains, and who are doing the violating, are not believing in fantasy?

Interesting perspective from a mind that probably thinks it is "normal." But clearly, the assertion of right and wrong proves empirically, otherwise.

AlAyeti · Post by **AlAyeti** » Sun Jul 10, 2005 9:36 pm

I would never compare human beings who can "reason" what is correct sexuality, with monkeys.

But some find it effortless.

Yet, aberrant behavior it still is.

I'm sure that science could prove, even in the bizaare bonobos, that sperm from a male bonobo needs to find the ovum of a female bonobo to make more little sexually deviant bonobos.

This is probably why Aristotle and a
many other Greeks had a hard time with homosexual behavior even if the word "homosexual" hadn't been invented yet. The behavior was!

And probably why pederasty was ridiculed in Greek comedies.

From order we can get chaos. But not the other way around.

But then again, "freethinkers" ALL agree we can.

Somehow.

AlAyeti · Post by **AlAyeti** » Sun Jul 10, 2005 9:40 pm

Pederasty (pedophilia) is always at the core of homosexual culture. Is this not historic?

Nyril · Post by **Nyril** » Sun Jul 10, 2005 10:39 pm

Pederasty (pedophilia) is always at the core of homosexual culture. Is this not historic?

No. It is not.

AlAyeti · Post by **AlAyeti** » Sun Jul 10, 2005 10:49 pm

Greece and Roman history may beg to differ with that view. When a Greek boy started growing a beard, it was improper to have an Eros relationship with him.

Young slaves were the desire of many a rich Roman.

"Pederasty" is what homosexuality was called before it was called "Inversion" and eventually homosexuality. Even Tom Cruise "knows the history of psychiatry."

King Bera of Sodom told Abraham, when Abraham came to the rescue of Sodom in a war, that he could keep all of the stuff stolen from Sodom but that he wanted "the persons" back. Eeeh. Abraham's reaction is very telling.

And of course how the Sodom story played out was as well.

The aversion that Christians have for the homosexual agenda is fact based. History is the teacher.

Not just Biblical either.

Lotan · Post by **Lotan** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 12:17 am

AlAyeti wrote:I would never compare human beings who can "reason" what is correct sexuality, with monkeys.

So, on Thursday you thought that it was relevant to say...

AlAyeti wrote:Animal homosexuality is always aberrant behavior. Alwyas deviating from the norm.

...but now you don't? Amazing!

It's interesting that "human beings who can "reason" what is correct sexuality" enjoy sex for more than just reproduction, don't you think?

AlAyeti wrote:Yet, aberrant behavior it still is.

Aberrant for whom? You or the bonobos?

AlAyeti wrote:I'm sure that science could prove, even in the bizaare bonobos, that sperm from a male bonobo needs to find the ovum of a female bonobo to make more little sexually deviant bonobos.

Bizaare?(sic) Who do you think created them Al? Why do you feel justified to criticize God's creatures? Do they have to answer to you?

McCulloch · Post by **McCulloch** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 9:50 am

AlAyeti, I hope you don't mind if I try to summarize your aguments in a logical sort of way.

Premise: Homosexual behaviour is an unnatural sexual activity.
Conclusion: Homosexuality is immoral.

Now, any first year logic student can see that the conclusion does not follow from the premise. To be a complete logical argument, you must add another premise.

Premise: Homosexual behaviour is an unnatural sexual activity.
Premise: All unnatural sexual activity is immoral.
Conclusion: Homosexuality is immoral.

This is now a complete logical argument. You have spent a lot of time trying to prove the first premise. Although, I don't think that you have adequately dealt with how if homosexual behaviour is unnatural, then how does it appear in nature, even in higher primates.

You have spent virtually no time trying to prove the second premise.

trencacloscas · Post by **trencacloscas** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 10:49 am

Don't quite get it.... If homosexuals do their thing, what the hell this Christians care? Is it any of their business?

perplexed101 · Post by **perplexed101** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 1:28 pm

trencacloscas wrote:Don't quite get it.... If homosexuals do their thing, what the hell this Christians care? Is it any of their business?

If someone going through school wants to exclude evolution then why should it be pushed on that person to jump in the bandwagon of evolutionary theory?