Pornography . . .

[Miles]

why is it bad?

For those who may not be sure as to just what it is, here is a definition from Merriam-Webster.

• 1 : the depiction of erotic behavior (as in pictures or writing) intended to cause sexual excitement
  
  2 : material (as books or a photograph) that depicts erotic behavior and is intended to cause sexual excitement

[FinalEnigma]

It's not bad. Personally I consider it pointless because it doesn't do anything for me, but there's nothing wrong with it, with the following exceptions of course:(and maybe a few more I might have missed)

1) child pornography.
2) excessive amounts of pornography(which can cause relationship problems and even a psychological disorder whereby someone cannot become excited by normal sexual things[causing ED])
3) non-consentual pornography(camera in the motel wall or something, or forced)
4) pornography that is being shown to children.
5) pornography that somehow encourages illegal or harmful sexual activity.

[Miles]

Gotta say, I gotta agree.

[Megaboomer]

It's not bad. Personally I consider it pointless because it doesn't do anything for me, but there's nothing wrong with it, with the following exceptions of course:(and maybe a few more I might have missed)

1) child pornography.

please explain to me the difference between this and adult pornography

2) excessive amounts of pornography(which can cause relationship problems and even a psychological disorder whereby someone cannot become excited by normal sexual things[causing ED])

the fact is that any pornography whatsoever causes relationship problems... it's really only if the guy gets caught.

3) non-consentual pornography(camera in the motel wall or something, or forced)

absolutely, but unfortunately this happens alot because of the increase of pornography addictions.

4) pornography that is being shown to children.

lol, this makes no sense whatsoever. why is it wrong to portray pornography to children when it's ok for adults.

5) pornography that somehow encourages illegal or harmful sexual activity.

---- the more you deal with pornography you become hardened to it and desire something more provocative than before. it's an addictive cycle that leads to all kinds of problems in a persons life. some are worse than others but to say that pornography is ok for anybody or even most people is a sad mistake.

[McCulloch]

please explain to me the difference between this and adult pornography

One depicts normal acts between informed consenting people. The other is always a depiction of abuse.

[FinalEnigma]

1) child pornography.

please explain to me the difference between this and adult pornography

Do you actually not see a distinction?

children are not old enough or mature enough to deal with the results and emotional effects of sex, let alone to have it shown to others.

And yeah, what Mc said.

2) excessive amounts of pornography(which can cause relationship problems and even a psychological disorder whereby someone cannot become excited by normal sexual things[causing ED])

the fact is that any pornography whatsoever causes relationship problems... it's really only if the guy gets caught.

There are a significant proportion of women who seriously object to their significant other viewing pornography?
well, I suppose religious, christian women might.

But I know a rather zealous christian who was actually a porn star for awhile. with his wife. They made pretty good money.

it isn't uncommon at all for girlfriends to be completely un-bothered by their boyfriends watching pornography, and sometimes will watch it with them.

3) non-consentual pornography(camera in the motel wall or something, or forced)

absolutely, but unfortunately this happens alot because of the increase of pornography addictions.

Prove the causation please.

4) pornography that is being shown to children.

lol, this makes no sense whatsoever. why is it wrong to portray pornography to children when it's ok for adults.

Adults are mature enough to deal with sex. Children are not. Now, as far as viewing it, I think that's largely the fault of society. If sex was handled more openly, then I don't believe it wold be harmful, even for the relatively young.(note, unsupported opinion italicized here)

5) pornography that somehow encourages illegal or harmful sexual activity.

---- the more you deal with pornography you become hardened to it and desire something more provocative than before. it's an addictive cycle that leads to all kinds of problems in a persons life. some are worse than others but to say that pornography is ok for anybody or even most people is a sad mistake.

There is a serious difference between getting kicks from watching sex and wanting to go out and rape women(which, actually, isn't about sex anyway).

A very large percentage of the population has, or does watch pornography, but not that many have problems due to it. As I said above, it isn't my cup of tea, but it isn't in itself harmful. Anything taken to excess is, but the occasional video every couple weeks? isn't going to do harm to the normal, healthy adult, and in fact, might well be positively healthy(that last qualification is another unsupported opinion).

[cnorman18]

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[Miles]

---- the more you deal with pornography you become hardened to it and desire something more provocative than before. it's an addictive cycle that leads to all kinds of problems in a persons life. some are worse than others but to say that pornography is ok for anybody or even most people is a sad mistake.

I know exactly where you're coming from. It's just like the thousand upon thousands of gun owners who begin with target shooting, advance to shooting small animals, then onto large animals, and finally to shooting people.

[Coyotero]

1) child pornography.

please explain to me the difference between this and adult pornography.

Well, you see, Child porn has children in it, and adult porn has consenting, informed adults.

2) excessive amounts of pornography(which can cause relationship problems and even a psychological disorder whereby someone cannot become excited by normal sexual things[causing ED])

the fact is that any pornography whatsoever causes relationship problems... it's really only if the guy gets caught.

I call bulls*** on this statement. Prove it.

3) non-consentual pornography(camera in the motel wall or something, or forced)

absolutely, but unfortunately this happens alot because of the increase of pornography addictions.

Where's the proof?

4) pornography that is being shown to children.

lol, this makes no sense whatsoever. why is it wrong to portray pornography to children when it's ok for adults.

If you have to ask, then I must say your moral compass must be very warped indeed.

5) pornography that somehow encourages illegal or harmful sexual activity.

---- the more you deal with pornography you become hardened to it and desire something more provocative than before.

Prove it.

Speaking from personal experience, I'd say the opposite. I enjoyed the more hardcore/extreme stuff when I was younger, but not anymore.

it's an addictive cycle that leads to all kinds of problems in a persons life. some are worse than others but to say that pornography is ok for anybody or even most people is a sad mistake.

Show me some proof. There are lots of studies that show the opposite. That having a balanced view of sex leads to a healthy balance in life. Fantasy Vs. Reality and such.

I won't deny that it's possible for porn to become addictive, and cause problems in the personal lives of some individuals, but this is not a universal rule. for many people it is a normal and healthy part of sexuality.

Honestly I don't understand why christians are so terrified of sex.

[Megaboomer]

1) child pornography.

please explain to me the difference between this and adult pornography

Do you actually not see a distinction?

children are not old enough or mature enough to deal with the results and emotional effects of sex, let alone to have it shown to others.

And yeah, what Mc said.

---- How do you determine then what age they are mature enough? What are the emotional effects of sex? What makes you believe it is wrong for example if there is a consenting adult that allows it/ signs for it.
---My point is that if it this is at all bothering you by contemplating the implications then you have to admit that there is something morally wrong with pornography.
--- Pornography keeps getting worse, that’s all you see. Here is a site http://www.shortnews.com/start.cfm?id=80746
--- why should we even allow something that gives the potential for so much risk.
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07218/807323-85.stm
--- as a Christian I ask myself not what can I get away with?, what is legal?, does it matter if it doesn’t effect me?, but I ask myself is this going to cause problems for somebody who is struggling? Is this something that makes me a better person? Or is this going to hurt someone?

2) excessive amounts of pornography(which can cause relationship problems and even a psychological disorder whereby someone cannot become excited by normal sexual things[causing ED])

the fact is that any pornography whatsoever causes relationship problems... it's really only if the guy gets caught.

There are a significant proportion of women who seriously object to their significant other viewing pornography?
well, I suppose religious, christian women might.

--- Well if you want to go on that basis there is a heck of a lot more Christian/religious women in the world than not. Therefore most women in relationships should be offended by their significant other participating in it.

But I know a rather zealous christian who was actually a porn star for awhile. with his wife. They made pretty good money.

---- If that’s true that’s totally hypocritical and anti-Christian. There is no foundation for any sexual immorality as being ok in the Christian faith. She may be religious but she’s not a good Christian. A Christian should, after accepting Jesus, continue to grow in their relationship with God. And not continue in sin. not saying they can't be susceptible to sin but that person should strive to be better. (Romans 6:1-2)�What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? Certainly not! How shall we who died to sin live any longer in it?�(1 Corinthians 6:9-10) Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.

it isn't uncommon at all for girlfriends to be completely un-bothered by their boyfriends watching pornography, and sometimes will watch it with them.

---- Yah people are loosing their morals more and more every day in this country, I wonder what the causes of that are.

3) non-consentual pornography(camera in the motel wall or something, or forced)

absolutely, but unfortunately this happens alot because of the increase of pornography addictions.

Prove the causation please.

---- This site shows the opinion of many psychiatrists. http://www.contentwatch.com/learn_center/article/107
--- this is what the writer say’s about pornography : “Distorted views of perverted sex acts are presented as exciting and acceptable, and in many instances, the viewer is exposed to otherwise unimaginable ideas about sexuality that they themselves would never have considered.�
--- the fact is that pornography twists the true way that sex should be. Should something this dangerous be alowed? Is it wrong to make it harder for people to be good?

4) pornography that is being shown to children.

lol, this makes no sense whatsoever. why is it wrong to portray pornography to children when it's ok for adults.

Adults are mature enough to deal with sex. Children are not. Now, as far as viewing it, I think that's largely the fault of society. If sex was handled more openly, then I don't believe it wold be harmful, even for the relatively young.(note, unsupported opinion italicized here)

---- So do you think as a suggestion that we should all let our kids experience pornography even at young ages? This rebuttal doesn’t agree with what you have said. You say it’s wrong(according to you to show pornography but how can we show sex more openly to kids.
---if you want to try and use the nudist article again, go ahead, but the article clearly shows that all promiscuity is strictly forbidden so, therefore, it’s not the same whatsoever.
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/artic ... z0WUaT8sRc

5) pornography that somehow encourages illegal or harmful sexual activity.

---- the more you deal with pornography you become hardened to it and desire something more provocative than before. it's an addictive cycle that leads to all kinds of problems in a persons life. some are worse than others but to say that pornography is ok for anybody or even most people is a sad mistake.

There is a serious difference between getting kicks from watching sex and wanting to go out and rape women(which, actually, isn't about sex anyway).

A very large percentage of the population has, or does watch pornography, but not that many have problems due to it. As I said above, it isn't my cup of tea, but it isn't in itself harmful. Anything taken to excess is, but the occasional video every couple weeks? isn't going to do harm to the normal, healthy adult, and in fact, might well be positively healthy(that last qualification is another unsupported opinion).

---- well #1- it sure is not healthy according to psychiatrists
#2- it may be fun and popular but that doesn’t mean it’s good
#3- if you put 2 and 2 together something even something that’s ok for most people but stumbling for a lot of people is still bad.
---- Yah sex is fun to play around with huh. “Recently in the U.S. it was reported that the sexually transmissible diseases, chlamydia, gonorrhea, and AIDS, were the three most commonly reported infectious disorders in 1995.� - Noel Hornor.
----Also according to the 2000 Census, there are currently about 11 million people living with an unmarried partner in the U.S. This includes both same-sex and different-sex couples. The number of unmarried couples living together increased 72% between 1990 and 2000. The number of unmarried couples living together has increased tenfold between 1960 and 2000.
---studies also show that the increase of internet pages and access has increased in a even greater period within 14 million to 260 million 1998-2003 according to the U.S. senate judiciary committee. That’s 5 years.
--- The growth in parallel is huge and the fact is that the industry really doesn’t care if they get kids into it or not. Only 3% of internet pornography requires age verification.
---even if the belief that porn is ok as long as it’s regulated was true there’s nobody that lives up to even there own standards. because the fact is that there is little to nothing being done about this issue.
--- Also the type of porn is getting worse and worse. Is this coincidence? Or is it a supply to demand. All these things and much more can track along side the increase of tolerance of pornography and other things in the History of the united states.

http://www.happinessonline.org/LoveAndH ... en/p28.htm