One Harrier (Odins warrior; one who has conquered himself)
What does One Harrier mean as an Odinist?
Well we have to engage in a fierce battle, but to become victorious, we need to know who the enemy is. The enemy is not life and the circumstances it brings. The enemy is not outside us, but lies within. It is our own self limiting beliefs, self doubt, fear, and weaknesses that hold us back from becoming one with whatever we strive towards.
This revelation can turn our lives around. It can change us from a impractical idealist to a valiant and victorious warrior. It can set us free. To grow and understand and control ones self. For although we cannot change life, we can change ourselves. And when we do so, we change the world.
The Masks of Odin by Titchenell States "the One-harrier is one who harries, commands, or controls, one---himself".
Do any other religions have something similar, and or do you disagree.
One Harrier (Odins warrior; one who has conquered himself)
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Post #2
There are examples...
I know of 2: Buddism and Christianity
My Buddist knowledge is very basic but I do believe they seek to purge themselves and to seek enlightenment and mastery of oneself
Christianity, with its many denomination, is much to broad of a category but the Orthodox do the same as you speak. The objective being to battle and struggle against sin and not to be a slave to them. The objective is to become master over them and of oneself to reach our potential.
What you cherish in that struggle... is noble and good
I know of 2: Buddism and Christianity
My Buddist knowledge is very basic but I do believe they seek to purge themselves and to seek enlightenment and mastery of oneself
Christianity, with its many denomination, is much to broad of a category but the Orthodox do the same as you speak. The objective being to battle and struggle against sin and not to be a slave to them. The objective is to become master over them and of oneself to reach our potential.
What you cherish in that struggle... is noble and good
Post #3
Buddhism has a few parallels with Odinism/Heathenry/Asatru, this is true, we are called to better ourselves and gain hamingja (An idea similar to karma... sort of.)orthodox wrote:There are examples...
I know of 2: Buddism and Christianity
My Buddist knowledge is very basic but I do believe they seek to purge themselves and to seek enlightenment and mastery of oneself
Christianity, with its many denomination, is much to broad of a category but the Orthodox do the same as you speak. The objective being to battle and struggle against sin and not to be a slave to them. The objective is to become master over them and of oneself to reach our potential.
What you cherish in that struggle... is noble and good
My contention Orthodox, is about your saying that Christianity is the same... Christianity says that you're ultimately doomed to fail, so you need Christ, acting as a sort of spiritual Deus Ex Machina (or perhaps even a literal Deus Ex Machina?) to step in and shoulder the burden of sin for you, ultimately winning the battle but not of your own ability.
As an Asatruar (Or Odinist/Freyjaist/Heathen... Whatever), The goal is to not have to ask for help. Our Gods want to see us be the best we can be because that is the ability that is latent within us, left in our genetic code as a gift from the Gods. In our eyes, it is shameful to ask for assistance... Assistance may be given if a particular God thinks it necessary, but it shouldn't be asked for.
Post #4
I meant it is similar. It is obviously not the same because the struggle you describe is more physical. I spoke of our struggle being more spiritual regarding virtues and vices and sin.My contention Orthodox, is about your saying that Christianity is the same... Christianity says that you're ultimately doomed to fail, so you need Christ, acting as a sort of spiritual Deus Ex Machina (or perhaps even a literal Deus Ex Machina?) to step in and shoulder the burden of sin for you, ultimately winning the battle but not of your own ability.
As an Asatruar (Or Odinist/Freyjaist/Heathen... Whatever), The goal is to not have to ask for help. Our Gods want to see us be the best we can be because that is the ability that is latent within us, left in our genetic code as a gift from the Gods. In our eyes, it is shameful to ask for assistance... Assistance may be given if a particular God thinks it necessary, but it shouldn't be asked for.
Your understanding of Christ shouldering our sin and not succeeding according to our ability is a misunderstanding of Christianity you have.
But out of respect for your forum area I wont delve into it unless asked.
Post #5
Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't the cornerstone of Christianity the idea that you can't overcome sin on your own, you have to have Christ as a mediator? That's how it was taught to me when I went to church (which was an evangelical bible church, I imagine quite dogmatically different from your orthodox church, so forgive me for basing my judgments on that.) whereas we believe that Godhood is our heritage, and if we play our cards right, our future.orthodox wrote:
I meant it is similar. It is obviously not the same because the struggle you describe is more physical. I spoke of our struggle being more spiritual regarding virtues and vices and sin.
Your understanding of Christ shouldering our sin and not succeeding according to our ability is a misunderstanding of Christianity you have.
But out of respect for your forum area I wont delve into it unless asked.
Post #6
We choose to sin or we choose to resist. It is always our choice. We ask for strength in overcoming temptations but we ultimately choose for ourselves.
Just as you pray for strength in a coming conflict, we do so spiritually. It is much easier to fight a physical opponent... but an invisible, tempting one that cannot be harmed, only resisted, is a lifelong struggle. I would much prefer a straight up glorious fight to the death because I would know after that fight it would be over. But alas, we must struggle all our lives.
Godhood, also, is our heritage. We were created to be as God but we fell away from that. Christ's resurrection allows us a way back to our created state through his life-giving body and blood.
So as you say, "if we play our cards right" we too will be as such.
Just as you pray for strength in a coming conflict, we do so spiritually. It is much easier to fight a physical opponent... but an invisible, tempting one that cannot be harmed, only resisted, is a lifelong struggle. I would much prefer a straight up glorious fight to the death because I would know after that fight it would be over. But alas, we must struggle all our lives.
Godhood, also, is our heritage. We were created to be as God but we fell away from that. Christ's resurrection allows us a way back to our created state through his life-giving body and blood.
So as you say, "if we play our cards right" we too will be as such.
Post #7
But do you or do you not believe that nobody can be successful without christ?orthodox wrote:We choose to sin or we choose to resist. It is always our choice. We ask for strength in overcoming temptations but we ultimately choose for ourselves.
Prayer is a Christian idea... I've never met an Asatruar who prays... so to speak. Divine help is given when needed, not asked for.orthodox wrote:Just as you pray for strength in a coming conflict,
I think you are misunderstanding us... Not all battles are physical. We all must overcome the limitations of human form. Not because of some judgment or retribution, but to make ourselves better.orthodox wrote:we do so spiritually. It is much easier to fight a physical opponent... but an invisible, tempting one that cannot be harmed, only resisted, is a lifelong struggle. I would much prefer a straight up glorious fight to the death because I would know after that fight it would be over. But alas, we must struggle all our lives.
Interesting persepective.orthodox wrote:Godhood, also, is our heritage. We were created to be as God but we fell away from that. Christ's resurrection allows us a way back to our created state through his life-giving body and blood.
So as you say, "if we play our cards right" we too will be as such.
