inconsistency in Islam

[Yolande]

Logic concludes:

If the Koran states that a prophet can never lie
And Islam acknowledges Jesus as a prophet
And Jesus said of Himself "I am the way, the truth, and the life, and nobody can come to the Father but by me".

Then why are Moslems not acknoledging these words of Jesus as the truth?

[muhammad rasullah]

Logic concludes:

If the Koran states that a prophet can never lie
And Islam acknowledges Jesus as a prophet
And Jesus said of Himself "I am the way, the truth, and the life, and nobody can come to the Father but by me".

Then why are Moslems not acknoledging these words of Jesus as the truth?

Muhammad was a liar, thief, mass murderer, rapist, and a pedophile. His "religion" is all about controlling people.

Prove it! Every post from you is the same. Statements with no evidence this is not a bashing website it is a debate forum. So bring some evidence.

[JoeyKnothead]

Logic concludes:

If the Koran states that a prophet can never lie
And Islam acknowledges Jesus as a prophet
And Jesus said of Himself "I am the way, the truth, and the life, and nobody can come to the Father but by me".

Then why are Moslems not acknoledging these words of Jesus as the truth?

Muhammad was a liar, thief, mass murderer, rapist, and a pedophile. His "religion" is all about controlling people.

Prove it! Every post from you is the same. Statements with no evidence this is not a bashing website it is a debate forum. So bring some evidence.

In my neck of the woods marrying a nine year old is pedophilia.

Of course we in the Southern US have our own history with young and even incestual marriages.

The point is that Muhammad marrying a nine year old can be legitimately seen as immoral. That the practice continues in some quarters by no means relieves it of its repugnancy to many.

Regardless of whether this practice was common, or accepted by those folks in that time, I still consider it vile. Especially so when families will sell their young into marriages with folks who should be old enough to know better.

[Bag-Of-Hammers]

Logic concludes:

If the Koran states that a prophet can never lie
And Islam acknowledges Jesus as a prophet
And Jesus said of Himself "I am the way, the truth, and the life, and nobody can come to the Father but by me".

Then why are Moslems not acknoledging these words of Jesus as the truth?

Muhammad was a liar, thief, mass murderer, rapist, and a pedophile. His "religion" is all about controlling people.

Prove it! Every post from you is the same. Statements with no evidence this is not a bashing website it is a debate forum. So bring some evidence.

Why doesn't anyone in Islam wise up and demand Muhammad supply proof for his rediculous claims to know jack about jack? Muhammad had no faith in anybody. The phylosophy created from the Koran is that everybody is a liar, and nobody can be trusted. Heck, he proclaimed Jesus to be a false prophet to whom God loves very much. It is the most rediculous, outrageous, evil, false religion to ever darken this planet. Islammist cannot win intulectually, so they resort to intimidation. It is all about controlling people to believe someone else's lies.

[VermilionUK]

Logic concludes:

If the Koran states that a prophet can never lie
And Islam acknowledges Jesus as a prophet
And Jesus said of Himself "I am the way, the truth, and the life, and nobody can come to the Father but by me".

Then why are Moslems not acknoledging these words of Jesus as the truth?

Muhammad was a liar, thief, mass murderer, rapist, and a pedophile. His "religion" is all about controlling people.

Prove it! Every post from you is the same. Statements with no evidence this is not a bashing website it is a debate forum. So bring some evidence.

Why doesn't anyone in Islam wise up and demand Muhammad supply proof for his rediculous claims to know jack about jack? Muhammad had no faith in anybody. The phylosophy created from the Koran is that everybody is a liar, and nobody can be trusted. Heck, he proclaimed Jesus to be a false prophet to whom God loves very much. It is the most rediculous, outrageous, evil, false religion to ever darken this planet. Islammist cannot win intulectually, so they resort to intimidation. It is all about controlling people to believe someone else's lies.

I suggest you read the bible before pointing the finger at other religions for being "ridiculous" and "outrageous"...

[Bag-Of-Hammers]

Logic concludes:

If the Koran states that a prophet can never lie
And Islam acknowledges Jesus as a prophet
And Jesus said of Himself "I am the way, the truth, and the life, and nobody can come to the Father but by me".

Then why are Moslems not acknoledging these words of Jesus as the truth?

Muhammad was a liar, thief, mass murderer, rapist, and a pedophile. His "religion" is all about controlling people.

Prove it! Every post from you is the same. Statements with no evidence this is not a bashing website it is a debate forum. So bring some evidence.

Why doesn't anyone in Islam wise up and demand Muhammad supply proof for his rediculous claims to know jack about jack? Muhammad had no faith in anybody. The phylosophy created from the Koran is that everybody is a liar, and nobody can be trusted. Heck, he proclaimed Jesus to be a false prophet to whom "Allah" loves very much. It is the most rediculous, outrageous, evil, false religion to ever darken this planet. Islammist cannot win intulectually, so they resort to intimidation. It is all about controlling people to believe someone else's lies.

[VermilionUK]

Logic concludes:

If the Koran states that a prophet can never lie
And Islam acknowledges Jesus as a prophet
And Jesus said of Himself "I am the way, the truth, and the life, and nobody can come to the Father but by me".

Then why are Moslems not acknoledging these words of Jesus as the truth?

Muhammad was a liar, thief, mass murderer, rapist, and a pedophile. His "religion" is all about controlling people.

Prove it! Every post from you is the same. Statements with no evidence this is not a bashing website it is a debate forum. So bring some evidence.

Why doesn't anyone in Islam wise up and demand Muhammad supply proof for his rediculous claims to know jack about jack? Muhammad had no faith in anybody. The phylosophy created from the Koran is that everybody is a liar, and nobody can be trusted. Heck, he proclaimed Jesus to be a false prophet to whom "Allah" loves very much. It is the most rediculous, outrageous, evil, false religion to ever darken this planet. Islammist cannot win intulectually, so they resort to intimidation. It is all about controlling people to believe someone else's lies.

Like I said, I suggest you read the bible before pointing the finger at other religions for being "ridiculous" and "outrageous"...

[Jonah]

Defining religion from texts is something fundamentalists of all stripes want to do, but it isn't how everyone works with religion.

When literal applications of texts create immoral results, what typically happens is that adherents transform the text in a metaphorical different meaning, often gaining an insight that said metaphorical meaning might well have been the original intent. Or not. But, there is reason now to interpret it metaphorically. Things change.

[Yolande]

It is interesting to note - I have never in my life met or heard of a Muslim who became an atheist.

But I have heard and met Muslims who had a powerful encounter with Jesus Christ and risked their lives receiving Him as Saviour. Every one of those I know where terribly persecuted by their very own families and people because of their embrace of Jesus.
The one friend I have, her very own father tried to kill her.

My conclusion, no Muslim will be willing to risk his life becoming an Atheist. If he or she has doubts they will just not utter it.
Because of the strong intimidation, people don't feel they have a choice, the way I see it.
They either believe these claims of Mohamed, or they pretend to believe it, for the alternative is just too costly, and the strongholds of fear and intimidation is just too strong.

It is, from how I see it, like living in a jail.

In Malysia, when I spoke to locals there, they told me that the government discriminates tremendously against people who are not Muslim, and many times for financial reasons they are forced to convert. Once they convert they are stuck.

It is really heartbreaking.

[McCulloch]

It is interesting to note - I have never in my life met or heard of a Muslim who became an atheist.

How about Pazuzu bin Hanbi?

[Scotracer]

It is interesting to note - I have never in my life met or heard of a Muslim who became an atheist.

But I have heard and met Muslims who had a powerful encounter with Jesus Christ and risked their lives receiving Him as Saviour. Every one of those I know where terribly persecuted by their very own families and people because of their embrace of Jesus.
The one friend I have, her very own father tried to kill her.

My conclusion, no Muslim will be willing to risk his life becoming an Atheist. If he or she has doubts they will just not utter it.
Because of the strong intimidation, people don't feel they have a choice, the way I see it.
They either believe these claims of Mohamed, or they pretend to believe it, for the alternative is just too costly, and the strongholds of fear and intimidation is just too strong.

It is, from how I see it, like living in a jail.

In Malysia, when I spoke to locals there, they told me that the government discriminates tremendously against people who are not Muslim, and many times for financial reasons they are forced to convert. Once they convert they are stuck.

It is really heartbreaking.

There's an entire organisation centred around people who gave up faith...from Islam. Yes apostasy is very hard to get away with in Islamic countries but seeing how tentatively atheists must live in the Southern United States, this intimidation exists within deeply Christian areas of the world too.