Is Islam Immoral?

[Thought Criminal]

Setting aside the very liberal Muslims who are fine people but not very consistent with their religion's teachings, I ask whether the ethical system embodied in traditional Islam is immoral. I am not putting it to a vote, since this is a matter of discussion, not head count. So feel free to reply, but defend your claims.

TC

[McCulloch]

Can you give some examples of the countries that are instituting Islamic Law that have injustice?

Would you count the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia a country that institutes Islamic Law?

The Basic Law of Government adopted in 1992 declared that the Qur'an is the constitution of the country, which is governed on the basis of the Sharia Law.

Or should we consider the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, the Islamic Republic of Iran, the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan or the Islamic Republic of Mauritania ?

Can we use the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, to define injustice?

[palmera]

Can you give some examples of the countries that are instituting Islamic Law that have injustice?

This question, and subsequent answers aren't sufficient. There is injustice in every country regardless of what laws are instituted.

In response to the original post: There is no one ethical system embodied in the Quran. How is one to define what is/ is not "traditional Islam? Is there only one "traditional Islam?" "Islam" is a catch all term, that like "Hinduism" or "Christianity" is a vague reference point at best.

There are a great variety of teachings in Islam derived from many different sources- the Quran, spiritual leaders, local customs etc... The question originally posed needs to be refined.

[Ms_Maryam]

This question, and subsequent answers aren't sufficient. There is injustice in every country regardless of what laws are instituted.
In response to the original post: There is no one ethical system embodied in the Quran. How is one to define what is/ is not "traditional Islam? Is there only one "traditional Islam?" "Islam" is a catch all term, that like "Hinduism" or "Christianity" is a vague reference point at best.

There are a great variety of teachings in Islam derived from many different sources- the Quran, spiritual leaders, local customs etc... The question originally posed needs to be refined.

True.

However the question wasn't intended to doubt the existence of injustice. I asked this question to determine whether these "injust" laws were Islamic laws or laws that have no Islamic base (not from the Quran and Sunnah).

[palmera]

However the question wasn't intended to doubt the existence of injustice. I asked this question to determine whether these "injust" laws were Islamic laws or laws that have no Islamic base (not from the Quran and Sunnah).

Inheritance laws in which males receive more than their female siblings could be considered unjust; then again, it depends on the paradigms one chooses as lenses through which to view the world. Asking if laws, just or unjust, are of direct Islamic origin or not, is a good question to begin asking ourselves how far one can divorce religion from culture.

Does the Quran stand alone and separate from those who wrote it, or from those who read it? Does "Islam" stand alone as an object of interpretation? Are laws derived from the Quran and Sunnah not objects of textual interpretation? Can there be a book or system of beliefs that is perfect, right or just, in-and-of-itself and only muddied by those who 'miss the point?'

Are there any specific laws you were thinking of that are claimed to be of Islamic origin but are not?

[Bag-Of-Hammers]

Setting aside the very liberal Muslims who are fine people but not very consistent with their religion's teachings, I ask whether the ethical system embodied in traditional Islam is immoral. I am not putting it to a vote, since this is a matter of discussion, not head count. So feel free to reply, but defend your claims.

TC

In Revelations it states that Prophets are not to be worshopped. Muhammad proclaims in the Koran that Jesus was never crucified. How would it make you feel if if your son were tourtured to death, and then later have a preacher teach that it never happened.

[muhammad rasullah]

Setting aside the very liberal Muslims who are fine people but not very consistent with their religion's teachings, I ask whether the ethical system embodied in traditional Islam is immoral. I am not putting it to a vote, since this is a matter of discussion, not head count. So feel free to reply, but defend your claims.

TC

In Revelations it states that Prophets are not to be worshopped. Muhammad proclaims in the Koran that Jesus was never crucified. How would it make you feel if if your son were tourtured to death, and then later have a preacher teach that it never happened.

How would it feel to have someone tell you that your son was tourtured to death when it never even happened?

[Bag-Of-Hammers]

Setting aside the very liberal Muslims who are fine people but not very consistent with their religion's teachings, I ask whether the ethical system embodied in traditional Islam is immoral. I am not putting it to a vote, since this is a matter of discussion, not head count. So feel free to reply, but defend your claims.

TC

In Revelations it states that Prophets are not to be worshopped. Muhammad proclaims in the Koran that Jesus was never crucified. How would it make you feel if if your son were tourtured to death, and then later have a preacher teach that it never happened.

How would it feel to have someone tell you that your son was tourtured to death when it never even happened?

THe first 4 books of the NT are dedicated to the happenings and teachings of Jesus Christ. THey are carefully put together through extensive research to reflect the truth. They are based on 1000's of interviewed eye witness accounts. The Koran is derrived from one uneducated man who lies in order to get people to worshop him in place of the one true God.