Ok just had a night out on the town.
Questions:
Is it immoral to be a dancer in lap dancing club?
Is it immoral tol be a waitress or waiter or doorman for a lap dancing club?
Is it immoral to be a punter in a lap dancing club?
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So you're saying that our law should be based around what you and your God think is right?Megaboomer wrote:I definitely think it is wrong and that it should be outlawed because it is immoral and God said so.
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joeyknuccione wrote:You gotta quit going to the ones with the ugly chicks.Megaboomer wrote:I definitely think it is wrong and that it should be outlawed because it is immoral and God said so.
Proverbs 5:3-5: For the lips of an immoral women drip honey and her mouth is smoother than oil; but in the end she is bitter as wormwood, sharp as a two edged sword her feet go down to death her steps lay hold of hell.
besides the fact that it's as much of a waste of money as cigarettes.
Actually, a book seems to have "said so". There's no evidence to show the Bible is an accurate reflection of the wants or wishes of a god.
there is actually immense amount of evidence supporting the bible as Gods word... obviously people that do not take the time to research the bible themselves and miss the facts about proven prophecy in the bible and the proven works of Jesus. all that i am saying is that there is a moral law that is given and that going to strip clubs is immoral any non- christian with morals and intellegence would agree.
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i believe if something is right why should the wrong thing be endorsed. if someone wants to do something that is wrong then that's there choice. but obviously we are discussing if lap dancing is immoral and wrong.Coyotero wrote:So you're saying that our law should be based around what you and your God think is right?Megaboomer wrote:I definitely think it is wrong and that it should be outlawed because it is immoral and God said so.
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Of course the above are all unsupported claims and the making of a metaphor (God's word) literal.Megaboomer wrote:joeyknuccione wrote:You gotta quit going to the ones with the ugly chicks.Megaboomer wrote:I definitely think it is wrong and that it should be outlawed because it is immoral and God said so.
Proverbs 5:3-5: For the lips of an immoral women drip honey and her mouth is smoother than oil; but in the end she is bitter as wormwood, sharp as a two edged sword her feet go down to death her steps lay hold of hell.
besides the fact that it's as much of a waste of money as cigarettes.
Actually, a book seems to have "said so". There's no evidence to show the Bible is an accurate reflection of the wants or wishes of a god.
there is actually immense amount of evidence supporting the bible as Gods word... obviously people that do not take the time to research the bible themselves and miss the facts about proven prophecy in the bible and the proven works of Jesus. all that i am saying is that there is a moral law that is given and that going to strip clubs is immoral any non- christian with morals and intellegence would agree.
It looks to me that it is those that don't take the time to do the research that claim there is evidence. I also doubt the validity of such claims for the proven prophesy or the works of Jesus.
Is it immoral to pretend you are a prostitute or going to a prostitute? It is Biblical and was done by two of the David's ancestors, with each other.
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Lee Strobel (a former atheist) does a full investigation into the validity of the Bible and the life of Jesus Christ as an atheist and has wrote numerous books an it for example: "the case for Christ" which puts the new testament on trial as if tried by a lawyer. He has found that besides the Bible being the best source book for truth, and archaeological fact, it has not been proven wrong with any valid claims anywhere in history. Standing on this evidence for the Bible i think it is also the best source for truth and if you took the prostitution in the bible in context you would find that God did not whatsoever condone it.Cathar1950 wrote:Of course the above are all unsupported claims and the making of a metaphor (God's word) literal.Megaboomer wrote:joeyknuccione wrote:You gotta quit going to the ones with the ugly chicks.Megaboomer wrote:I definitely think it is wrong and that it should be outlawed because it is immoral and God said so.
Proverbs 5:3-5: For the lips of an immoral women drip honey and her mouth is smoother than oil; but in the end she is bitter as wormwood, sharp as a two edged sword her feet go down to death her steps lay hold of hell.
besides the fact that it's as much of a waste of money as cigarettes.
Actually, a book seems to have "said so". There's no evidence to show the Bible is an accurate reflection of the wants or wishes of a god.
there is actually immense amount of evidence supporting the bible as Gods word... obviously people that do not take the time to research the bible themselves and miss the facts about proven prophecy in the bible and the proven works of Jesus. all that i am saying is that there is a moral law that is given and that going to strip clubs is immoral any non- christian with morals and intellegence would agree.
It looks to me that it is those that don't take the time to do the research that claim there is evidence. I also doubt the validity of such claims for the proven prophesy or the works of Jesus.
Is it immoral to pretend you are a prostitute or going to a prostitute? It is Biblical and was done by two of the David's ancestors, with each other.
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yes, because it is degrading to women. how would you like it if you had a daughter and she said she wanted to be a stripper when she grew up. there are some family's that will condone other family members to do pornography or stripping or prostitution but they are very few and far between. what you must ask yourself is.... "why doesn't everybody walk around naked". and my answer is that there is a unspoke law of morality that says it's indecent exposure. i believe that a womens body is a sacred thing that should only be unveiled for marriage.Ink wrote:Megaboomer, is there any other reason you think lap dancing clubs are immoral besides what the Bible says 'God' thinks?
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Please offer some means to verify "the 'proven' works of Jesus".
Does your religious training require you insult all those with whom you disagree?
Show me some means to verify you know the mind of God.
Care to offer some for analysis?Megaboomer wrote: there is actually immense amount of evidence supporting the bible as Gods word...
I've yet to see any prophecy that wasn't so generic it couldn't apply to any of the many proposed gods.Megaboomer wrote: obviously people that do not take the time to research the bible themselves and miss the facts about proven prophecy in the bible and the proven works of Jesus.
Please offer some means to verify "the 'proven' works of Jesus".
I object to your questioning my intelligence because I disagree.Megaboomer wrote: all that i am saying is that there is a moral law that is given and that going to strip clubs is immoral any non- christian with morals and intellegence would agree.
Does your religious training require you insult all those with whom you disagree?
Show me some means to verify you know the mind of God.
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Says you.Megaboomer wrote: yes, because it is degrading to women.
I'd deal with it. Once an adult she is her own person.Megaboomer wrote: how would you like it if you had a daughter and she said she wanted to be a stripper when she grew up.
One family's take doesn't show a god has an opinion on the matter.Megaboomer wrote: there are some family's that will condone other family members to do pornography or stripping or prostitution but they are very few and far between.
Because too many uptight Christians would have a conniption.Megaboomer wrote: what you must ask yourself is.... "why doesn't everybody walk around naked".
Many places have codified this into a written law. Doesn't mean a god can be shown to have an opinion on the matter.Megaboomer wrote: and my answer is that there is a unspoke law of morality that says it's indecent exposure.
Would you buy a car without riding it first?Megaboomer wrote: i believe that a womens body is a sacred thing that should only be unveiled for marriage.
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Ya know, I don't care about Lee Strobel's claim for 'being an atheist', and it is totally irrelevant to his arguments. His arguments are one sided, bad, illogical, and inaccurate, and frankly, he uses sources that lie. As for 'The Case for Christ', it is also very one sided, and one that fails under cross examination. It is a rehash of every bad piece of apologistics out there (and not even original). If you want to discuss individual pieces of evidence presented in a different thread, I am sure that there will be mulititudes of people who are willing to show where Lee Strobel just gets it wrong.Megaboomer wrote:
Lee Strobel (a former atheist) does a full investigation into the validity of the Bible and the life of Jesus Christ as an atheist and has wrote numerous books an it for example: "the case for Christ" which puts the new testament on trial as if tried by a lawyer. He has found that besides the Bible being the best source book for truth, and archaeological fact, it has not been proven wrong with any valid claims anywhere in history. Standing on this evidence for the Bible i think it is also the best source for truth and if you took the prostitution in the bible in context you would find that God did not whatsoever condone it.
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