The "Religion" of Atheism

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The "Religion" of Atheism

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elderchild wrote:The Truth to an atheist is liken unto "a fly in the pudding" ;-(

And Truth is that one's "g-d" is that which, what or whom one serves.......

Just happens that atheism is one of this wicked world's most popular 'religions', for
atheists see their g-d each and every time they see their reflection in a mirror ;-(

And simply, 'religion' is anti-messiah.......
Questions for debate:
  1. Do atheists necessarily shun truth?
  2. Is atheism wicked?
  3. Do atheists self-worship?
  4. Is atheism a religion? [again]
Examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good.
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Re: The "Religion" of Atheism

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McCulloch wrote:Questions for debate:
  1. Do atheists necessarily shun truth?
  2. Is atheism wicked?
  3. Do atheists self-worship?
  4. Is atheism a religion? [again]
Atheist - a person who denies or disbelieves the existence of a supreme being or beings.

Shun - to keep away from (a place, person, object, etc.), from motives of dislike, caution, etc.; take pains to avoid.

Truth - the true or actual state of a matter.

Atheism - the doctrine or belief that there is no God.

Wicked - evil or morally bad in principle or practice; sinful; iniquitous.

Worship - reverent honor and homage paid to God or a sacred personage, or to any object regarded as sacred.

Self - a person's nature, character, etc.

Self worship - the act of worshiping ones self?

Religion - a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, esp. when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.

Definitions provided for clarity. Provided by www.dictionary.com
McCulloch wrote:a. Do atheists necessarily shun truth?
How can we shun that of which cannot be proven to be true? There is no strong evidence to show that a "God" or "Gods" created the Universe, ect. and everything in it or that a "God" or "Gods" exist. In short, my answer is no. Atheist thrive off of knowledge of the truth so how can we shun that of which we seek?
McCulloch wrote:b. Is atheism wicked?
As far as I know Atheism is not wicked. Atheism is the belief of no "God" or "Gods." By the definition of wicked I cannot conclude that Atheism is wicked.
McCulloch wrote:c. Do atheists self-worship?
This question is rather odd as I have never even thought about it until earlier today. Self worship is the act of worshiping one's self. I personally have never given praise to myself, that I believe I am of a higher authority than another. To answer this question I believe that no, atheists no not self worship.
McCulloch wrote:d. Is atheism a religion? [again]
Based on the provided definition of religion I cannot conclude that atheism is a religion. A religion must be "considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies" according to the provided definition. I believe that atheism is an organization of people with a common purpose, so I consider atheism as an association rather than a religion.

However, where these are my answers I would love to see responses to these questions from those whom hold religious perspectives and others who believe in atheism.
Religion can never reform mankind because religion is slavery. - Robert G. Ingersoll 1833-1899

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Re: The "Religion" of Atheism

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McCulloch wrote:
elderchild wrote:The Truth to an atheist is liken unto "a fly in the pudding" ;-(

And Truth is that one's "g-d" is that which, what or whom one serves.......

Just happens that atheism is one of this wicked world's most popular 'religions', for
atheists see their g-d each and every time they see their reflection in a mirror ;-(

And simply, 'religion' is anti-messiah.......
Questions for debate:
  1. Do atheists necessarily shun truth?
  2. Is atheism wicked?
  3. Do atheists self-worship?
  4. Is atheism a religion? [again]
Atheist shun religious claims without objective evidence. It remains to be shown that the 'religious claims' are truth.

Atheism is neither wicked or good. It only is the disbelieve (or lack of belief) in any god/goddesses.

Well, I certainly don't 'self worship'.. I do not know what 'self worship' could be.

and no, atheism is not a religion. It might be a reaction to a religious belief, but it is not a religion in and of itself.
“What do you think science is? There is nothing magical about science. It is simply a systematic way for carefully and thoroughly observing nature and using consistent logic to evaluate results. So which part of that exactly do you disagree with? Do you disagree with being thorough? Using careful observation? Being systematic? Or using consistent logic?�

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Re: The "Religion" of Atheism

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McCulloch wrote:Questions for debate:
  1. Do atheists necessarily shun truth?
  2. Is atheism wicked?
  3. Do atheists self-worship?
  4. Is atheism a religion? [again]
1. I didn't become an atheist until I decided to search for truth instead of accepting the religion I was raised in as truth without verifying it for myself. I think that others have rejected religion based on the same or similar reasons - it was the natural outcome of a search for truth (which is still obviously ongoing). I do not think all atheists necessarily shun truth; I think many of us embrace what we understand to be truth.

2. Atheism is not wicked, or evil, or bad. Atheism is simply not believing in a god or gods. It has nothing to do with morality or good and bad. Just like there are "wicked" theists there are upstanding and moral atheists. To suggest anything else seems biased and unfair.

3. I don't understand the concept of self-worship. I know I certainly do not worship myself. If self-worship is some kind of extreme narcissism then I would posit that both theists and nontheists could be self-worshipers and that it has nothing to do with belief in a deity.

4. Clearly, NO. There is no set of doctrinal beliefs, rituals, or symbols. There is no lifestyle to follow, no devotion or faithfulness or practices to perform, etc. There is very, very little if anything in any definition of religion that I've read that would indicate atheism could possibly qualify as a religion.
For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.--Carl Sagan

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Do atheists necessarily shun truth?
It depends. If the Christian is correct, than yes, I do. If I am correct, than no I do not.

Is atheism wicked?
It would be very safe to say that atheism is not "good". But to say that it is wicked implies that there is an evil or good. Again, if some of the Theists are correct, than it is very possible that I am wicked.

Do atheists self-worship?
Absolutely. I am my own damn God.

Is atheism a religion? [again]
It can be treated as such. (In my opinion a true atheist must be religious. He must be religious and faithful in his atheism. If one claims the title atheist, one should embrace it, and live their lives according to it, so it would become a religion for those who treat it that way.)

Of course, some don't treat it that way, but I have reason to think they're not true atheists.

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