Although I feel this thread may cause more harm than good I am still going to post it and hopefully we can 'debate' the concepts rationally and maturely
I would like to define Luciferianism in the non-theistic sense
"The significant symbol of wisdom given to us by research is what I refer to as Lucifer, the bringer of light. Everybody is searching for perception; wisdom is the child of Lucifer." -Michael Ford
The Chaldean astrologers, the Egyptian priests, the Indian Brahmans; they are all children of Lucifer.
From Lucifer-Gnosis, Rudolph Steiner
Lucifer stands on the threshold of Dawn and Dusk. The bringer of light, symbol of Thelemic strength and divine wisdom emerges. The age of Lucifer is the uprising of what Blavatsky termed "Phosphorus", the cosmic force of illumination and light. Lucifer is the force of Air, while Satan the dual and corrupted form of the light bringer is of active fire. This duality is the changeable essence of progression and evolution. Lucifer emerges by name as the Roman "bringer of light", Lucem Fero..the carrier of the torch.
Lucifer stands as the fountain head of Astral Magick; (i.e., Astral Projection, Dream Control, etc.) Lucifer is balance in the instance of both Shadow and Light, Blood Red and Jet Black. Lucifer is the color of an awakened and enlightened mind. The Psyche which is open for magical inspiration.
Blavatsky understood the significance of balance within the individual, to ascend the individual from the beast like qualities so inherent within our subconscious. Blavatsky wrote "Thus it stands proven that Satan, or the red Fiery Dragon, the "Lord of Phosphorus" and Lucifer, or "Light bearer" is in us"
Black Magic is the focus of making the Psyche immortal, surviving Earth bound after death. Luciferic Magick is the focus of Astral projection and Holy Magick. Ascension is the primary goal, To rise towards Godhead
Aleister Crowley gave us the modern synthesis and foundation of Luciferian thought. "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law" and "Love is the law, love under will". Two statements which clearly set in motion the ascension of the seeking individual towards Godhead. In his poem, "Hymn to Lucifer" Crowley presents the bringer of light in a Thelemic aspect. No longer shall man be subservient to a religion which would destroy your foundation and right of personal choice.
Dogma is also a trap which can lead towards spiritual stagnation. Growth is necessary through the freedom of an open being that through will power and focus can change take hold and run its natural course.
The Luciferian individual is at heart a predator, however balancing action and thought with compassion and tolerance when such emotions are heartfelt. A Thelemic individual is by definition free to decide the proper course of which his or her life would flow. Often, clubs, orders and other thought trapping devices will trick the individual into accepting a code and "uniformities" of like minds.
Those who awaken this individual light are blessed unto ourselves. Self-Godhood is the step towards spiritual immortality. Those who seek the platform of Adept in the Magickial Quest will inadvertently perceive the basis of the balance of light and darkness. The Angelic and the Demonic shall be united, Chaos will follow form and such is the genetic and psychic make up of the Adept.
Lucifer stands for the balance of flesh and spirit. The ego or "I", constantly changing must continue to consciously manifest in a positive manner.
As Aleister Crowley pointed out in the article entitled:
"The Initiated Interpretation of Ceremonial Magic" (Published in The Goetia): "The spirits of the Goetia are portions of the human brain. Their seals therefore represent (Mr. Spencer's projected cube) method of stimulating or regulating those particular spots (through the Eye).
(a) The names of God are vibrations calculated to establish control over the human brain. (Establishment of the functions relative to the subtle world.)
(b) Control over the brain in detail. (Rank or type of the Spirit.)
(c) Control of one special portion (Name of the spirit)."
Control is the map of empowerment and Ascension. Once direction is assumed and confirmed, can such begin to take place in association with progression and evolution? This subtle point is based around the legend of Lucifer itself.
I hope some of you find this useful in your evolution of spirit
Em Hotep,
Ankhhape
Luciferianism
Moderator: Moderators
Lucifer Morningstar Horus connections
Post #2The name Lucifer originally denotes the planet Venus, emphasizing its brilliance. The Vulgate employs the word also for "the light of the morning" (Job 11:17), "the signs of the zodiac"
(Job 38:32), and "the aurora" (Psalm 109:3).
Metaphorically, the word Lucifer is applied to the King of Babylon (Isaiah 14:12) as preeminent among the princes of his time;
To the high priest Simon son of Onias (Ecclesiasticus 50:6), for his surpassing virtue, to the glory of heaven (Apocalypse 2:28)
Finally, to Jesus Christ himself (II Petr. 1:19; Apocalypse 22:16; the "Exultet" of Holy Saturday) the true light of our spiritual life. The Syriac version and the version of Aquila derive the Hebrew
noun helel from the verb yalal, "to lament"; St. Jerome agrees with them (In Isaiah 1:14), and makes Lucifer the name of the principal fallen angel who must lament the loss of his original glory bright as the morning star.
In Christian tradition this meaning of Lucifer has prevailed; the Fathers maintain that Lucifer is not the proper name of the devil, but denotes only the state from which he has fallen
Horus Morningstar
Horus has typically been identified with the sun. Other scholars have advanced arguments that the god is to be identified with the planet Venus; with the star Sirius; and with the amorphous sky.
The cult of Horus is prominent already in pre-dynastic times (Writing itself is first attested in Egypt during the pre-dynastic Period, ca. 3200 B.C.E.
Rulers at Nekhen, for example, worshiped the falcon-god prior to the unification of Egypt. In the Early Dynastic Period (ca. 3000-2600 B.C.E.), Horus is explicitly identified as a star.
This much is evident from the fact that royal domains were named after the astral god. The domain established by Anedjib was called Ór-sbå-t, "Horus, star of the corporation (of gods)."
Hetepsekhemwy established a domain called Ór-?œ-sbå, "Horus risen as a star."
Khasekhemwy founded a new domain called Ór-sbå-båw, "Horus, the star of souls."
Most informative, perhaps, is the domain established at the beginning of the Third Dynasty by Djoser, named Ór-sbå-?nti-pt, "Horus, star at the front of the sky"
Additional information regarding the star-god Horus is to be found in the Pyramid Texts dating from roughly a half millennium later (2300 B.C.E.). That Horus was not the sun, as often maintained, is suggested by various hymns wherein the god is clearly distinguished from the ancient sun god Ra.
In the following passage, for example, Horus (as the deceased king) is implored to ascend to heaven and join Re: "Rêœ summons you into the zenith of the sky as the Jackal, the Governor of the Two Enneads, and as Horus Ônty-mnit.f; may he set you as the Morning Star in the midst of the Field of Rushes.
Raymond Faulkner, considered it a foregone conclusion that Venus must be the stellar body referenced by the phrase "Morning Star." Thus, in a comprehensive survey of Egyptian star-lore Faulkner wrote as follows: "As regards the identification of the Morning Star and the Lone Star with actual celestial bodies, there can be little doubt that, as elsewhere, the Morning Star is Phosphorus, Venus as seen at dawn."
The most detailed study of Egyptian star religion to date is that by Rolf Krauss. He, too, would identify Horus with the planet Venus, citing as evidence various passages in the Pyramid Texts that describe the star as shining in the "eastern" portion of the morning sky while moving with
respect to other stars, a characteristic of planets rather than stars.
Krauss summarized his findings as follows:
"As early as the beginning of dynastic times Horus seems to be identified with the planet Venus. The names of the so-called royal vineyards describe Horus as a star. The name of Djoser's vineyard reveals that Horus is a particular star ‘at the front of the sky'. The identification of Horus with Venus as known from the Pyramid Texts suggests itself…Royal ideology and ideas
about the Hereafter seem to have had cosmological and stellar foundations which may well go back to pre-dynastic times.
An analysis of Horus's early epithets offers additional insight into his astral origins. A recurring epithet of the god is Duat, traditionally translated as "Netherworld."
The word Duat, in turn, is derived from the root dwå, "morning," whence comes Horus's epithet Neter Dua "Morning Star (or God)."
The etymology of Duat suggests that Horus's identity as the Morning Star is indissolubly connected to his role as Lord of the "Netherworld." In a passage from the Pyramid Texts the association between the "Morning Star" and the Duat is made explicit: "O Morning Star, Horus of the Netherworld, divine Falcon, wådåd-bird whom the sky bore"
(Job 38:32), and "the aurora" (Psalm 109:3).
Metaphorically, the word Lucifer is applied to the King of Babylon (Isaiah 14:12) as preeminent among the princes of his time;
To the high priest Simon son of Onias (Ecclesiasticus 50:6), for his surpassing virtue, to the glory of heaven (Apocalypse 2:28)
Finally, to Jesus Christ himself (II Petr. 1:19; Apocalypse 22:16; the "Exultet" of Holy Saturday) the true light of our spiritual life. The Syriac version and the version of Aquila derive the Hebrew
noun helel from the verb yalal, "to lament"; St. Jerome agrees with them (In Isaiah 1:14), and makes Lucifer the name of the principal fallen angel who must lament the loss of his original glory bright as the morning star.
In Christian tradition this meaning of Lucifer has prevailed; the Fathers maintain that Lucifer is not the proper name of the devil, but denotes only the state from which he has fallen
Horus Morningstar
Horus has typically been identified with the sun. Other scholars have advanced arguments that the god is to be identified with the planet Venus; with the star Sirius; and with the amorphous sky.
The cult of Horus is prominent already in pre-dynastic times (Writing itself is first attested in Egypt during the pre-dynastic Period, ca. 3200 B.C.E.
Rulers at Nekhen, for example, worshiped the falcon-god prior to the unification of Egypt. In the Early Dynastic Period (ca. 3000-2600 B.C.E.), Horus is explicitly identified as a star.
This much is evident from the fact that royal domains were named after the astral god. The domain established by Anedjib was called Ór-sbå-t, "Horus, star of the corporation (of gods)."
Hetepsekhemwy established a domain called Ór-?œ-sbå, "Horus risen as a star."
Khasekhemwy founded a new domain called Ór-sbå-båw, "Horus, the star of souls."
Most informative, perhaps, is the domain established at the beginning of the Third Dynasty by Djoser, named Ór-sbå-?nti-pt, "Horus, star at the front of the sky"
Additional information regarding the star-god Horus is to be found in the Pyramid Texts dating from roughly a half millennium later (2300 B.C.E.). That Horus was not the sun, as often maintained, is suggested by various hymns wherein the god is clearly distinguished from the ancient sun god Ra.
In the following passage, for example, Horus (as the deceased king) is implored to ascend to heaven and join Re: "Rêœ summons you into the zenith of the sky as the Jackal, the Governor of the Two Enneads, and as Horus Ônty-mnit.f; may he set you as the Morning Star in the midst of the Field of Rushes.
Raymond Faulkner, considered it a foregone conclusion that Venus must be the stellar body referenced by the phrase "Morning Star." Thus, in a comprehensive survey of Egyptian star-lore Faulkner wrote as follows: "As regards the identification of the Morning Star and the Lone Star with actual celestial bodies, there can be little doubt that, as elsewhere, the Morning Star is Phosphorus, Venus as seen at dawn."
The most detailed study of Egyptian star religion to date is that by Rolf Krauss. He, too, would identify Horus with the planet Venus, citing as evidence various passages in the Pyramid Texts that describe the star as shining in the "eastern" portion of the morning sky while moving with
respect to other stars, a characteristic of planets rather than stars.
Krauss summarized his findings as follows:
"As early as the beginning of dynastic times Horus seems to be identified with the planet Venus. The names of the so-called royal vineyards describe Horus as a star. The name of Djoser's vineyard reveals that Horus is a particular star ‘at the front of the sky'. The identification of Horus with Venus as known from the Pyramid Texts suggests itself…Royal ideology and ideas
about the Hereafter seem to have had cosmological and stellar foundations which may well go back to pre-dynastic times.
An analysis of Horus's early epithets offers additional insight into his astral origins. A recurring epithet of the god is Duat, traditionally translated as "Netherworld."
The word Duat, in turn, is derived from the root dwå, "morning," whence comes Horus's epithet Neter Dua "Morning Star (or God)."
The etymology of Duat suggests that Horus's identity as the Morning Star is indissolubly connected to his role as Lord of the "Netherworld." In a passage from the Pyramid Texts the association between the "Morning Star" and the Duat is made explicit: "O Morning Star, Horus of the Netherworld, divine Falcon, wådåd-bird whom the sky bore"
-
GentleDove
- Apprentice
- Posts: 233
- Joined: Sat Apr 11, 2009 1:22 am
- Location: Pacific Northwest, USA
Re: Luciferianism
Post #3Ankhhape, do you have a question or questions for debate?Ankhhape wrote:Although I feel this thread may cause more harm than good I am still going to post it and hopefully we can 'debate' the concepts rationally and maturely
I would like to define Luciferianism in the non-theistic sense
Those who awaken this individual light are blessed unto ourselves. Self-Godhood is the step towards spiritual immortality.
(a) The names of God are vibrations calculated to establish control over the human brain. (Establishment of the functions relative to the subtle world.)
(b) Control over the brain in detail. (Rank or type of the Spirit.)
(c) Control of one special portion (Name of the spirit)."
Control is the map of empowerment and Ascension. Once direction is assumed and confirmed, can such begin to take place in association with progression and evolution? This subtle point is based around the legend of Lucifer itself.
I hope some of you find this useful in your evolution of spirit
Em Hotep,
Ankhhape
Are you saying the legend of Lucifer is another way of saying each of us is our own god, and this is the sense in which you are defining Luciferianism as non-theistic? Or is Lucifer your god (or one of your gods)? How do you define the use of the word "god" in a non-theistic sense? Do you mean a fully "evolved" human spirit?
Also, are you stating that this Luciferian worldview is objectively and universally true, that we should all believe it? Or are you simply stating your subjective beliefs, as "true for you," but not necessarily "true for others"?
Do you believe that the Biblical God and Satan (also called Lucifer, the "morning star" who fell, but retained his ability to appear as or disguise himself as "an angel of light") actually exist, or do you believe the Bible is legend or a belief tradition which informs reality but does not exist as fact in reality?
I'm just trying to understand a bit more about "where you're coming from," if you have a question for debate.
Post #4
Greetings GentleDove,
Well, I guess I began with a non-theistic commentary on modern Luciferic thought, but have regressed into further explanations and parallels from a more theistic view in order for ease of discussion.
Lucifer is defined as a Principle and not a God or Angel
I would define a God as an accumulative Consciousness of the Universe.
We do not accept deities and such as real. In every myth there exists a morsel of Truth. We believe that in order to be a complete spiritual person both Light & Dark needs to be balanced within our Self, the RHP of this Abrahamic faith does not accept the Shadow side of the Universe and this we feel is an unbalanced view.
Personally, I see this book as a book of allegories.
Well, I guess I began with a non-theistic commentary on modern Luciferic thought, but have regressed into further explanations and parallels from a more theistic view in order for ease of discussion.
I am saying we have the potential to become a Creator and no longer part of the creation.Are you saying the legend of Lucifer is another way of saying each of us is our own god, and this is the sense in which you are defining Luciferianism as non-theistic? Or is Lucifer your god (or one of your gods)? How do you define the use of the word "god" in a non-theistic sense? Do you mean a fully "evolved" human spirit?
Lucifer is defined as a Principle and not a God or Angel
I would define a God as an accumulative Consciousness of the Universe.
I believe it is and would like everyone to understand it as so. Though, I am in no way forcing my beliefs on anyone, that would be against Luciferian belief.Also, are you stating that this Luciferian worldview is objectively and universally true, that we should all believe it?
We do not recognize Satan and Lucifer as the same. Lucifer is not the Morningstar of the Abrahamic Bible, that clearly refers to the King of Babylon.Do you believe that the Biblical God and Satan (also called Lucifer, the "morning star" who fell, but retained his ability to appear as or disguise himself as "an angel of light") actually exist, or do you believe the Bible is legend or a belief tradition which informs reality but does not exist as fact in reality?
We do not accept deities and such as real. In every myth there exists a morsel of Truth. We believe that in order to be a complete spiritual person both Light & Dark needs to be balanced within our Self, the RHP of this Abrahamic faith does not accept the Shadow side of the Universe and this we feel is an unbalanced view.
Personally, I see this book as a book of allegories.
