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An idea struck me while out running today, I'm trying to get in shape and get some exercise, and I'm sure there's others on here who are as well, so why not do it together and be accountable to one another? we all know that if you just do it on your own, with nobody to keep you honorable you're gonna cheat.

Now You don't have to run if running isn't your thing, you can walk, swim, bike, skip, fly or marathon somersault down the street if you like, the important thing is to get some exercise and keep up with it. You don't actually have to debate while running either, although that is worth bonus points. :lol:

I'm making a usergroup for this, and I know it's a bit silly and has nothing to do with the forum, but this is for everyone who's trying to get in shape, lose weight, or bring down their mile time.

I know I'm a few days late, but here's my new years resolution: To outrun everyone on DC&R! Now who's gonna stop me?
That's gonna be a tough one I know, as I'm not much of a runner at the moment, and I know at least Confused can outrun me, and I doubt shes gonna give ground without a fight.
And I know some of you have resolutions to get in shape. according to a poll on the news a few days ago that's the most common resolution, so who's up for doing it together? maybe a little competition and fun while we are at it?

So if you are interested, just post here with your current status(running time and distance, biking, swimming, walking, weight you're trying to lose[don't have to tell us your weight, just how much your trying to lose!]) and keep us updated every week or two weeks and post your latest accomplishment. Feel free to join the usergroup Debating Runners as well.(which I'm making right after this post)
I'll put up my mile time tomorrow once I get it timed.

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FinalEnigma wrote:Within Temptation
Wow, and I thought I was the only one in the world who liked that symphonic rock/metal band. I still think Enter is their best album. Let me know if you need mp3s, because I could totally hook you up.
I actually have all their albums. I stick the CD into my computer and copy the music to my mp3 player, so no worries there. The only problem is my hard drive died a while back and I don't have the software for my mp3 player anymore, so I can't add any more songs. I'm gonna have to buy a new mp3 player eventually to deal with that.

I think I agree with you on enter though.

if you're interested at all in the rest of the music I listen to I have a web-site with a list of bands and links to youtube play lists that I made just because I felt like it.

if your into symphonic metal, check out Epica.

http://home.comcast.net/~rdonj/Music.htm
Interesting. I like a lot of those music artists there as well. Epica is pretty good, but I think Evanescence has rather gone downhill since The Open Door.

You'd probably like The Birthday Massacre as a (gothic) synth-rock band, as they easily get my vote for best synths ever. Nightwish is somewhat similar to WT also, but I like Sharon den Adel's vocals more.

If you're interesting in the female/male vocal dualism, try Lacuna Coil.

I'm somewhat of a music connoisseur. :)

Oh, and look up my favorite music artist of all time, Opeth. But they're progressive death metal, which some people can't stand.
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Heh, I also have a licence but no car. I walk to most places in the (usually > 95 degree) sweltering heat index. Damn you, humidity.
I generally bike places. Arkansas is pretty flat, so that works reasonably for me.

About a week ago the heat index here was 115
Well, be sure to keep hydrated. :)

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Celestial Dragon wrote:
FinalEnigma wrote:
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FinalEnigma wrote:Within Temptation
Wow, and I thought I was the only one in the world who liked that symphonic rock/metal band. I still think Enter is their best album. Let me know if you need mp3s, because I could totally hook you up.
I actually have all their albums. I stick the CD into my computer and copy the music to my mp3 player, so no worries there. The only problem is my hard drive died a while back and I don't have the software for my mp3 player anymore, so I can't add any more songs. I'm gonna have to buy a new mp3 player eventually to deal with that.

I think I agree with you on enter though.

if you're interested at all in the rest of the music I listen to I have a web-site with a list of bands and links to youtube play lists that I made just because I felt like it.

if your into symphonic metal, check out Epica.

http://home.comcast.net/~rdonj/Music.htm
Interesting. I like a lot of those music artists there as well. Epica is pretty good, but I think Evanescence has rather gone downhill since The Open Door.

You'd probably like The Birthday Massacre as a (gothic) synth-rock band, as they easily get my vote for best synths ever. Nightwish is somewhat similar to WT also, but I like Sharon den Adel's vocals more.

If you're interesting in the female/male vocal dualism, try Lacuna Coil.



Oh, and look up my favorite music artist of all time, Opeth. But they're progressive death metal, which some people can't stand.

I'm somewhat of a music connoisseur. :)
Will check those three out. I'm a music man. I listen to music a lot, I sing, and I play several instruments, though its been awhile for some of them. :/

I really wish I had the money around to persue music more though. for example, I play piano somewhat. self taught and I know I don't do it properly, but if I spend enough time on a song I can learn it by rote. I would love to be able to take lessons. And playing viola or cello would be awesome too - I'm a really huge fan of good string music, particularly the deeper ones. listen to this song:

I absolutely love the string in that, particularly between the vocals. I'm sure sure whether that's a viola or a cello, but whatever it is, it's just awesome.
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Heh, I also have a licence but no car. I walk to most places in the (usually > 95 degree) sweltering heat index. Damn you, humidity.
I generally bike places. Arkansas is pretty flat, so that works reasonably for me.

About a week ago the heat index here was 115
Well, be sure to keep hydrated. :)
yeah, I tend to consume an awful lot of water these days. I run 3-5 times a week and do some other activities on occasion as well, so I have to drink a ton of water. In fact, since summer started, when I go for my long distance runs, I carry a bottle of water, because otherwise, I start getting dehydrated within a few miles.




-edit: Not so fond of Birthday Massacre. Lacuna coil is interesting, I do like male/female duets. Nightwish I've heard of before, but I'm not tremendously fond of the vocal from what I've heard. and Opeth is progressive death metal? apparently I have no idea what death metal is - I certainly wasn't expecting mellow vocals and acoustic guitars.
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FinalEnigma wrote:I really wish I had the money around to persue music more though. for example, I play piano somewhat. self taught and I know I don't do it properly, but if I spend enough time on a song I can learn it by rote. I would love to be able to take lessons. And playing viola or cello would be awesome too - I'm a really huge fan of good string music, particularly the deeper ones. listen to this song:

I absolutely love the string in that, particularly between the vocals. I'm sure sure whether that's a viola or a cello, but whatever it is, it's just awesome.
I had some insane piano skills when I was a kid, self-taught, but they've mostly withered away due to lack of practice. I never learned sheet music either, but instead, I learned to play by memorization and hearing only. I really need to get back to playing. If only I could find a real piano! :-k

I used to sneak into a church down the street, around midnight, and practice on their grand piano. I can't do that anymore, because they installed a security system... :( And synthesizers just don't do it for me... most of them don't have the same reverberation and natural sound as a real piano. The ones that do, I can't afford.

Yeah, I'm also a memorizing kind of guy. I tend to memorize most of the lyrics from my songs.

I think all of this upbringing in classical music is why I have such an affinity to symphonic rock (like WT) and symphonic metal (like Dimmu Borgir).
FinalEnigma wrote: yeah, I tend to consume an awful lot of water these days. I run 3-5 times a week and do some other activities on occasion as well, so I have to drink a ton of water. In fact, since summer started, when I go for my long distance runs, I carry a bottle of water, because otherwise, I start getting dehydrated within a few miles.
Hmm... interesting, so why are you running? Just for exercise, or for fun?

Most people think I'm crazy for walking everywhere. I'm used to the heat by now, and walking miles everyday is somewhat like second nature anyway. Also, it gives me a lot of time to think. Maybe that's why I'm so analytical.

But usually if somewhere is too far, I can just get a friend to take me. Talk about using people. :lol:
FinalEnigma wrote:-edit: Not so fond of Birthday Massacre. Lacuna coil is interesting, I do like male/female duets. Nightwish I've heard of before, but I'm not tremendously fond of the vocal from what I've heard. and Opeth is progressive death metal? apparently I have no idea what death metal is - I certainly wasn't expecting mellow vocals and acoustic guitars.
Best albums:

The Birthday Massacre: Nothing and Nowhere
Lacuna Coil: In a Reverie (hmm probably)
Opeth: Oh hell, they're all so good... I'd recommend, if you want to get an overall feel for them, Ghost Reveries and Watershed.

Which album are you listening to? One of their albums, Damnation, is a cd completely composed of mellow, acoustic soft rock songs. Most of the rest of their discography is made up of both death metal growls and clean singing interspersed. And the average Opeth song is quite long (around ten minutes).

IMO, Mikael Ã…kerfeldt is probably the best male singer in the rock/metal world.

If you've never heard death metal before, you probably won't like it at first. It's an acquired taste. Let me know if you'd like some references. I could ween you into the sound by gradually introducing heavier and heavier stuff. :)

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Celestial Dragon wrote:
FinalEnigma wrote:I really wish I had the money around to persue music more though. for example, I play piano somewhat. self taught and I know I don't do it properly, but if I spend enough time on a song I can learn it by rote. I would love to be able to take lessons. And playing viola or cello would be awesome too - I'm a really huge fan of good string music, particularly the deeper ones. listen to this song:

I absolutely love the string in that, particularly between the vocals. I'm sure sure whether that's a viola or a cello, but whatever it is, it's just awesome.
I had some insane piano skills when I was a kid, self-taught, but they've mostly withered away due to lack of practice. I never learned sheet music either, but instead, I learned to play by memorization and hearing only. I really need to get back to playing. If only I could find a real piano! :-k

I used to sneak into a church down the street, around midnight, and practice on their grand piano. I can't do that anymore, because they installed a security system... :( And synthesizers just don't do it for me... most of them don't have the same reverberation and natural sound as a real piano. The ones that do, I can't afford.

Yeah, I'm also a memorizing kind of guy. I tend to memorize most of the lyrics from my songs.
Yeah, I Memorize stuff fairly easily. Hence the fact that I can sing one or two songs in Italian, Latin, and Japanese without actually knowing the languages(except a little Japanese).
I think all of this upbringing in classical music is why I have such an affinity to symphonic rock (like WT) and symphonic metal (like Dimmu Borgir).
I didn't really have a music-heavy upbringing, I just found it and love it on my own.
FinalEnigma wrote: yeah, I tend to consume an awful lot of water these days. I run 3-5 times a week and do some other activities on occasion as well, so I have to drink a ton of water. In fact, since summer started, when I go for my long distance runs, I carry a bottle of water, because otherwise, I start getting dehydrated within a few miles.
Hmm... interesting, so why are you running? Just for exercise, or for fun?
Initially to combat depression, and because Confused suggested I do it (She and Cnorman18 are close friends of mine). Now, I do it because I really enjoy it. The endorphins are great, the challenge, and running in a thunderstorm at night (preferably with no shirt on) is possibly the greatest thing ever invented. And I sometimes just appreciate the simplicity of it. Just me, the trail, and nature. It also gives me an opportunity to think, like you do with walking. I spend a lot of time thinking about my writing(I hope to write fiction for a living and am working on a book), and a lot of other time thinking about my beloved. :p

but once I get home and take a shower my home environment usually ruins my thinking sufficiently that I don't put to use any of my lovely story ideas I got while out running. My mom always insists on some level of noise - usually the TV on the news or something, and my brother and father both play computer games a lot - loudly. Since I have Asperger's syndrome, this makes it damn near impossible to get anything done, especially something that requires as much concentration and thought as writing.


Regarding the temperature, I've gotten fairly used to it as well. Running with no shirt on helps a TON too - and while I don't have a hankering for skin cancer, I don't object to a reasonable tan.
FinalEnigma wrote:-edit: Not so fond of Birthday Massacre. Lacuna coil is interesting, I do like male/female duets. Nightwish I've heard of before, but I'm not tremendously fond of the vocal from what I've heard. and Opeth is progressive death metal? apparently I have no idea what death metal is - I certainly wasn't expecting mellow vocals and acoustic guitars.
Best albums:

The Birthday Massacre: Nothing and Nowhere
Lacuna Coil: In a Reverie (hmm probably)
Opeth: Oh hell, they're all so good... I'd recommend, if you want to get an overall feel for them, Ghost Reveries and Watershed.

Which album are you listening to? One of their albums, Damnation, is a cd completely composed of mellow, acoustic soft rock songs. Most of the rest of their discography is made up of both death metal growls and clean singing interspersed. And the average Opeth song is quite long (around ten minutes).
I wasn't listening to particular albums, I was just listening to random songs by the bands off youtube. it seems I missed all the death metal growls from opeth - I don't like death metal growls anyway. It loses the melodic feel, and is terrible for your voice.
IMO, Mikael Ã…kerfeldt is probably the best male singer in the rock/metal world.
That's quite the claim. I'm not sure I'd dispute it with a specific example, but to be honest I wasn't swept away by the songs I listened to. It could have just been the songs rather than the singer however - I only listened to a couple. I was getting too overwhelmed by sounds and such by the time I got to Opeth to pay complete attention. I mentioned my Asperger's above - when I am around much noise or busy lights(like strobe lights) it just overloads me and I have to get away from it or bad stuff happens. Music...kind of just works. It flows, reverberates through my mind in a way that other things don't. when its the right song(especially classical here), It just feels right, whereas most sound is distracting, chaotic, aggravating white noise to me.

Its kind of sad, but sometimes I sit on the floor of my closet with a headset on and the lights off because its the quietest, darkest place in the house. Or if nobody else is up I may not need my headset on and can just appreciate the quiet. It's extremely hard to find quiet in my house - especially that kind of quiet. everybody keeps ridiculous schedules. my mom will stay up till 3 or 4 in the morning with the TV on pretty loud, or my brother will sleep half the day and be awake from 2 pm till 8 am, then sleep till 6pm.






oh, I'm listening to this song a lot lately - I love it. I'm really into instrumental right now, in addition to my love of good string and piano (especially classical) to begin with.

I especially love to stay up late after everyone has gone to bed(when that's valid) and listen to good classical music - or something like regret(above) in otherwise dead silence with no lights on. I've deliberately made my room very dark so it's great for that.
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FinalEnigma wrote:
Celestial Dragon wrote:
FinalEnigma wrote:I really wish I had the money around to persue music more though. for example, I play piano somewhat. self taught and I know I don't do it properly, but if I spend enough time on a song I can learn it by rote. I would love to be able to take lessons. And playing viola or cello would be awesome too - I'm a really huge fan of good string music, particularly the deeper ones. listen to this song:

I absolutely love the string in that, particularly between the vocals. I'm sure sure whether that's a viola or a cello, but whatever it is, it's just awesome.
I had some insane piano skills when I was a kid, self-taught, but they've mostly withered away due to lack of practice. I never learned sheet music either, but instead, I learned to play by memorization and hearing only. I really need to get back to playing. If only I could find a real piano! :-k

I used to sneak into a church down the street, around midnight, and practice on their grand piano. I can't do that anymore, because they installed a security system... :( And synthesizers just don't do it for me... most of them don't have the same reverberation and natural sound as a real piano. The ones that do, I can't afford.

Yeah, I'm also a memorizing kind of guy. I tend to memorize most of the lyrics from my songs.
Yeah, I Memorize stuff fairly easily. Hence the fact that I can sing one or two songs in Italian, Latin, and Japanese without actually knowing the languages(except a little Japanese).
Haha, cool, I have two Rammstein (German industrial rock band -- check them out too) songs memorized, although I don't know German. I also knew Lacuna Coil's "Senzafine" before I learned Italian.

We have way too much in common :)
FinalEnigma wrote:and running in a thunderstorm at night (preferably with no shirt on) is possibly the greatest thing ever invented.
There's nothing I like more than a good thunderstorm. Here in SC, we often get some nasty weather during hurricane season. Of course, I think it's great.
FinalEnigma wrote:And I sometimes just appreciate the simplicity of it. Just me, the trail, and nature. It also gives me an opportunity to think, like you do with walking. I spend a lot of time thinking about my writing(I hope to write fiction for a living and am working on a book), and a lot of other time thinking about my beloved. :p
I used to write too, mostly sword-and-sandal stories in high school. It was influenced by the video games my friends and I used to play, like World of Warcraft and Runescape. Ahh, memories.
FinalEnigma wrote:...but once I get home and take a shower my home environment usually ruins my thinking sufficiently that I don't put to use any of my lovely story ideas I got while out running. My mom always insists on some level of noise - usually the TV on the news or something, and my brother and father both play computer games a lot - loudly. Since I have Asperger's syndrome, this makes it damn near impossible to get anything done, especially something that requires as much concentration and thought as writing.
Sorry to hear about your condition. My friend a few years ago had a form of autism, and he could never concentrate very well, except in a few circumstances in which he did it amazingly.
FinalEnigma wrote: I wasn't listening to particular albums, I was just listening to random songs by the bands off youtube. it seems I missed all the death metal growls from opeth - I don't like death metal growls anyway. It loses the melodic feel, and is terrible for your voice.
I personally don't think it loses the melodic sound, so much as it simply changes the feel of the music to a different kind of sound. But, you know... it's an acquired taste, because I hated death metal at first too. It took music artists like In Flames and Slipknot to bridge the gap to the harder stuff like Deadlock and Lamb of God.

And I hear it is indeed painful on your throat at first, until you get used to it.
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IMO, Mikael Ã…kerfeldt is probably the best male singer in the rock/metal world.
That's quite the claim.
It sure is. :lol: Of course it is only my opinion, as there is really only opinion when it comes to this kind of thing. I just think he has the best overall vocals -- clean singing, death growls, etc.
FinalEnigma wrote:Music...kind of just works. It flows, reverberates through my mind in a way that other things don't. when its the right song(especially classical here), It just feels right, whereas most sound is distracting, chaotic, aggravating white noise to me.
Interesting you should point that out. I read a book last year called This is Your Brain on Music, and according to the author, music bypasses our waking conscience and goes straight to our subconscience. It's a very interesting psychological concept, I recommend you read up on it...
FinalEnigma wrote:Its kind of sad, but sometimes I sit on the floor of my closet with a headset on and the lights off because its the quietest, darkest place in the house. Or if nobody else is up I may not need my headset on and can just appreciate the quiet. It's extremely hard to find quiet in my house - especially that kind of quiet. everybody keeps ridiculous schedules. my mom will stay up till 3 or 4 in the morning with the TV on pretty loud, or my brother will sleep half the day and be awake from 2 pm till 8 am, then sleep till 6pm.
Well, I know every nook and cranny of Charleston, and there are plenty of quiet places I enjoy visiting to get away from the vicissitudes and hassels of life. Sunsets are a real beauty. 8-)
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oh, I'm listening to this song a lot lately - I love it. I'm really into instrumental right now, in addition to my love of good string and piano (especially classical) to begin with.

I especially love to stay up late after everyone has gone to bed(when that's valid) and listen to good classical music - or something like regret(above) in otherwise dead silence with no lights on. I've deliberately made my room very dark so it's great for that.
More power to ya man. I prefer darkness to light also, but I still like the concept of brightness, since I see beauty in both. :)

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Celestial Dragon wrote:
FinalEnigma wrote:
Celestial Dragon wrote:
FinalEnigma wrote:I really wish I had the money around to persue music more though. for example, I play piano somewhat. self taught and I know I don't do it properly, but if I spend enough time on a song I can learn it by rote. I would love to be able to take lessons. And playing viola or cello would be awesome too - I'm a really huge fan of good string music, particularly the deeper ones. listen to this song:

I absolutely love the string in that, particularly between the vocals. I'm sure sure whether that's a viola or a cello, but whatever it is, it's just awesome.
I had some insane piano skills when I was a kid, self-taught, but they've mostly withered away due to lack of practice. I never learned sheet music either, but instead, I learned to play by memorization and hearing only. I really need to get back to playing. If only I could find a real piano! :-k

I used to sneak into a church down the street, around midnight, and practice on their grand piano. I can't do that anymore, because they installed a security system... :( And synthesizers just don't do it for me... most of them don't have the same reverberation and natural sound as a real piano. The ones that do, I can't afford.

Yeah, I'm also a memorizing kind of guy. I tend to memorize most of the lyrics from my songs.
Yeah, I Memorize stuff fairly easily. Hence the fact that I can sing one or two songs in Italian, Latin, and Japanese without actually knowing the languages(except a little Japanese).
Haha, cool, I have two Rammstein (German industrial rock band -- check them out too) songs memorized, although I don't know German. I also knew Lacuna Coil's "Senzafine" before I learned Italian.
I know Canta per me in italian(from the anime Noir), Salva nos in latin(from the same) A really awesome japanese lullaby, Melissa(from full metal alchemist) in japenese, and I do know parts of some Rammstein songs, but no entire songs.

FinalEnigma wrote:And I sometimes just appreciate the simplicity of it. Just me, the trail, and nature. It also gives me an opportunity to think, like you do with walking. I spend a lot of time thinking about my writing(I hope to write fiction for a living and am working on a book), and a lot of other time thinking about my beloved. :p
I used to write too, mostly sword-and-sandal stories in high school. It was influenced by the video games my friends and I used to play, like World of Warcraft and Runescape. Ahh, memories.[/qoute]
Yeah, fantasy is where I write as well. The book I'm writing right now is medieval fantasy. I've got a great idea for a sci-fi one though.

and I used to play runescape, and am currently being forced to play world of warcraft.(which is bad for my wrist, because I have carpal tunnel from tanking too many raids late into the night)
FinalEnigma wrote:...but once I get home and take a shower my home environment usually ruins my thinking sufficiently that I don't put to use any of my lovely story ideas I got while out running. My mom always insists on some level of noise - usually the TV on the news or something, and my brother and father both play computer games a lot - loudly. Since I have Asperger's syndrome, this makes it damn near impossible to get anything done, especially something that requires as much concentration and thought as writing.
Sorry to hear about your condition. My friend a few years ago had a form of autism, and he could never concentrate very well, except in a few circumstances in which he did it amazingly.
Yep, I can get concentration like that sometimes. I used to be epic at unreal tournament - one of the benefits I got from my Asperger's is very high spacial acuity, so I can very quickly learn and hold maps of areas in my head, and I can track large numbers of moving objects through space - I used to seriously dodge every single bullet fired at me from miniguns or pulse rifles. My brother once emptied an entire 200 ammo at me with a pulse rifle and hit nothing but air.
FinalEnigma wrote: I wasn't listening to particular albums, I was just listening to random songs by the bands off youtube. it seems I missed all the death metal growls from opeth - I don't like death metal growls anyway. It loses the melodic feel, and is terrible for your voice.
I personally don't think it loses the melodic sound, so much as it simply changes the feel of the music to a different kind of sound. But, you know... it's an acquired taste, because I hated death metal at first too. It took music artists like In Flames and Slipknot to bridge the gap to the harder stuff like Deadlock and Lamb of God.

And I hear it is indeed painful on your throat at first, until you get used to it.
Even when you are used to it(and have callouses on your vocal chords), it's bad for your vocal chords. Trust me on that, death metal growls will ruin your voice given enough time, so I'm never touching them.


FinalEnigma wrote:Music...kind of just works. It flows, reverberates through my mind in a way that other things don't. when its the right song(especially classical here), It just feels right, whereas most sound is distracting, chaotic, aggravating white noise to me.
Interesting you should point that out. I read a book last year called This is Your Brain on Music, and according to the author, music bypasses our waking conscience and goes straight to our subconscience. It's a very interesting psychological concept, I recommend you read up on it...
I actually have read that book as well I think. If I remember the title correctly. But it was years ago.
FinalEnigma wrote:Its kind of sad, but sometimes I sit on the floor of my closet with a headset on and the lights off because its the quietest, darkest place in the house. Or if nobody else is up I may not need my headset on and can just appreciate the quiet. It's extremely hard to find quiet in my house - especially that kind of quiet. everybody keeps ridiculous schedules. my mom will stay up till 3 or 4 in the morning with the TV on pretty loud, or my brother will sleep half the day and be awake from 2 pm till 8 am, then sleep till 6pm.
Well, I know every nook and cranny of Charleston, and there are plenty of quiet places I enjoy visiting to get away from the vicissitudes and hassels of life. Sunsets are a real beauty. 8-)
My dad's family lives there. he has like 7 brothers and 3 sisters and a lot of them live near my grandmother. I've only been there once, and their kids loved me - especially the oldest. He'd be about your age. He was into martial arts and jumped me a few times - you know, the usual schoolyard jump on your back thing. I don't generally like people behind me, or being touched, but it was a bit of fun to dump him on the ground when he did that.
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oh, I'm listening to this song a lot lately - I love it. I'm really into instrumental right now, in addition to my love of good string and piano (especially classical) to begin with.

I especially love to stay up late after everyone has gone to bed(when that's valid) and listen to good classical music - or something like regret(above) in otherwise dead silence with no lights on. I've deliberately made my room very dark so it's great for that.
More power to ya man. I prefer darkness to light also, but I still like the concept of brightness, since I see beauty in both. :)
well, the reason for the no lights is that you can appreciate the music more when its your only sensory input.

But I do love nighttime.

btw, where in Charleston do you live? Anywhere near goose creek?
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FinalEnigma wrote:And I sometimes just appreciate the simplicity of it. Just me, the trail, and nature. It also gives me an opportunity to think, like you do with walking. I spend a lot of time thinking about my writing(I hope to write fiction for a living and am working on a book), and a lot of other time thinking about my beloved. :p
I used to write too, mostly sword-and-sandal stories in high school. It was influenced by the video games my friends and I used to play, like World of Warcraft and Runescape. Ahh, memories.
Yeah, fantasy is where I write as well. The book I'm writing right now is medieval fantasy. I've got a great idea for a sci-fi one though.
Swords beat guns any day, in my book. But death lasers are also fun.
FinalEnigma wrote:and I used to play runescape, and am currently being forced to play world of warcraft.(which is bad for my wrist, because I have carpal tunnel from tanking too many raids late into the night)
Ouch, I hear that's quite painful. My sympathies for that, too.

Runescape was a lot of fun (I got to level 78 combat before quitting), but in the end, it just comes down to whoever is willing to do more point-and-click work in the game. I prefer strategies and new innovations in games... and RS never really cut it on that point.

WoW fared much better, but I don't like the monthly fee. I can hardly afford my cell phone, since I don't have a job anymore (I worked at a small resturaunt which went out of business -- tough economic times, and I can't find any work now).
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FinalEnigma wrote:...but once I get home and take a shower my home environment usually ruins my thinking sufficiently that I don't put to use any of my lovely story ideas I got while out running. My mom always insists on some level of noise - usually the TV on the news or something, and my brother and father both play computer games a lot - loudly. Since I have Asperger's syndrome, this makes it damn near impossible to get anything done, especially something that requires as much concentration and thought as writing.
Sorry to hear about your condition. My friend a few years ago had a form of autism, and he could never concentrate very well, except in a few circumstances in which he did it amazingly.
Yep, I can get concentration like that sometimes. I used to be epic at unreal tournament - one of the benefits I got from my Asperger's is very high spacial acuity, so I can very quickly learn and hold maps of areas in my head, and I can track large numbers of moving objects through space - I used to seriously dodge every single bullet fired at me from miniguns or pulse rifles. My brother once emptied an entire 200 ammo at me with a pulse rifle and hit nothing but air.
That's quite an advantage. Coincidently, I just downloaded UT today and am planning to regain my lost tenth-grade skills.

So you'd be pretty good at chess, huh?
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FinalEnigma wrote: I wasn't listening to particular albums, I was just listening to random songs by the bands off youtube. it seems I missed all the death metal growls from opeth - I don't like death metal growls anyway. It loses the melodic feel, and is terrible for your voice.
I personally don't think it loses the melodic sound, so much as it simply changes the feel of the music to a different kind of sound. But, you know... it's an acquired taste, because I hated death metal at first too. It took music artists like In Flames and Slipknot to bridge the gap to the harder stuff like Deadlock and Lamb of God.

And I hear it is indeed painful on your throat at first, until you get used to it.
Even when you are used to it(and have callouses on your vocal chords), it's bad for your vocal chords. Trust me on that, death metal growls will ruin your voice given enough time, so I'm never touching them.
To be honest, I wouldn't doubt that it does cause some harm over time, but I don't really think it would be significant as there are death metal singers who have been at it for 20+ years. Do you have any info on this? I'd be interested.
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FinalEnigma wrote:Its kind of sad, but sometimes I sit on the floor of my closet with a headset on and the lights off because its the quietest, darkest place in the house. Or if nobody else is up I may not need my headset on and can just appreciate the quiet. It's extremely hard to find quiet in my house - especially that kind of quiet. everybody keeps ridiculous schedules. my mom will stay up till 3 or 4 in the morning with the TV on pretty loud, or my brother will sleep half the day and be awake from 2 pm till 8 am, then sleep till 6pm.
Well, I know every nook and cranny of Charleston, and there are plenty of quiet places I enjoy visiting to get away from the vicissitudes and hassels of life. Sunsets are a real beauty. 8-)
My dad's family lives there. he has like 7 brothers and 3 sisters and a lot of them live near my grandmother. I've only been there once, and their kids loved me - especially the oldest. He'd be about your age. He was into martial arts and jumped me a few times - you know, the usual schoolyard jump on your back thing. I don't generally like people behind me, or being touched, but it was a bit of fun to dump him on the ground when he did that.
Lol nice :D
FinalEnigma wrote: btw, where in Charleston do you live? Anywhere near goose creek?
I live here in Hanahan, in a part where Goose Creek is just over the resevoir behind my house. So it's literally within walking distance... I go to GC at times, mostly to visit friends. I don't really like walking there since there are strange, shady characters on the street who see my nice clothes and $250 iPod and ask for money. :lol: It's a pretty slummy town, but I mean no offense to your family or anyone who lives there.

So what's your family's names? Maybe I've heard of them.

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Seijun wrote:This is a great idea for a thread. I am quitting smoking/drinking tomorrow. These are two habits that I have had for about 20 years now and I want to be done with them. I am making my vow public and will report in with my progress. I also have a brand new weight bench and a set of weights collecting dust that I intend to start using. I have begun my mental/spiritual journey, it is time to add the physical now.
Great job Sijun!

Find something that really motivates you to keep exercising and then make it part of a daily habit that replaces the other activities.

One of the key things for quitting addictions is distraction with things you are seriously interested in.

Highly recommended: http://smartrecovery.org/ Use the daily check in forums as a 24 hr peer support group.

Keep up the good work!

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So you'd be pretty good at chess, huh?
Moderately. I'm no savant, and I have never played a whole lot. rating is somewhere around 1600-1800
To be honest, I wouldn't doubt that it does cause some harm over time, but I don't really think it would be significant as there are death metal singers who have been at it for 20+ years. Do you have any info on this? I'd be interested.
http://metal.wikia.com/wiki/Death_growl

Template:Cleanup Growls can be obtained with various voice effects, but the effects are usually used to enhance rather than create, if they are used at all. Voice teachers teach different techniques, but long-term use eventually wears the voice out, so any technique is actually for "less harm", not for harmless vocalization.

The University Medical Center St Radboud in Nijmegen (The Netherlands) reported in June 2007 that, due to the increased popularity of growling in the region, it was treating several patients for edema and polyps on the vocal folds[3].



there plenty of sites that tell the horrors of death metal growls. As well as that, you can ask any voice instructor, and they will tell you not to do it because it will ruin your voice - my voice instructor did.
So what's your family's names? Maybe I've heard of them.
Cragg is the last name. the first names...I don't remember them all. lol
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FinalEnigma wrote:
So you'd be pretty good at chess, huh?
Moderately. I'm no savant, and I have never played a whole lot. rating is somewhere around 1600-1800
That's not bad, actually. :)

<== High school champ, lol, I have too much time on my hands.

FinalEnigma wrote:
To be honest, I wouldn't doubt that it does cause some harm over time, but I don't really think it would be significant as there are death metal singers who have been at it for 20+ years. Do you have any info on this? I'd be interested.
http://metal.wikia.com/wiki/Death_growl

Template:Cleanup Growls can be obtained with various voice effects, but the effects are usually used to enhance rather than create, if they are used at all. Voice teachers teach different techniques, but long-term use eventually wears the voice out, so any technique is actually for "less harm", not for harmless vocalization.

The University Medical Center St Radboud in Nijmegen (The Netherlands) reported in June 2007 that, due to the increased popularity of growling in the region, it was treating several patients for edema and polyps on the vocal folds[3].

there plenty of sites that tell the horrors of death metal growls. As well as that, you can ask any voice instructor, and they will tell you not to do it because it will ruin your voice - my voice instructor did.
Well that's somewhat of a shame... I'll have to do more research on this. Thanks for the link.
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So what's your family's names? Maybe I've heard of them.
Cragg is the last name. the first names...I don't remember them all. lol
Huh, never heard of them.

Ah well, it's been a pleasure talking with you. See you around the forums, and good luck on everything. 8-)

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