Jesus is God?

[HJwVHtJ3]

Hi,

One thing that is a problem for me with Christianity is discussed here http://www.biblers.org/showthread.php?t=27

With Jesus being the master of most Christians where is Gods place?

[puddleglum]

"There is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus"
1 Timothy 2:5 ESV

God is holy and cannot endure sin, and all of us are sinful and our sins form a barrier between us and God. But God loves us in spite of our sins and therefore has provided a way that we can be forgiven and enter the relationship with God that he intended for us. Jesus is God and is equal to God the Father, but he took on a human nature when by entering Mary's womb and being born into the world. Becsause he is both human and divine he is qualified to serve as a mediator between us and God. He was without sin but voluntarily allowed himself to be crucified to pay for our sins. Whoever repents of his sins and believes in Jesus will have his sins forgiven and is no longer separated from God.

Here are two websites I recommend if you want to know more about Jesus.

http://bible.org

http://www.backtothebible.org

[changel]

That's right honey, don't have to fear that bogus, illogical, demonized dogma:
See for your self, and grab a bible because this timeline history is chock-full reference scriptures from the word of God almighty!

http://archangelfiles.webs.com/

http://archangelfiles.webs.com/Arch1_Je ... -final.htm

http://archangelfiles.webs.com/Archange ... Table1.htm

http://archangelfiles.webs.com/Archange ... Table2.htm

http://archangelfiles.webs.com/book_int ... opment.htm

*** well, let me tell you about the trinite darkness, a real party poopa on a great story, which will come out anyways, before armageddon shakes

Defining Trinitarians: Babylonian Metaphysics (Demon Inspired Confusion and Inaccuracy)

The one debate many might have, is of course, Catholic/Roman Trinitarian Dogma. The solution? It's pre-designed to obscure the actuality of God's Truth: Roman Philosophy was inherited from the Greek (angel dabblers), who inherited it from Babylonian demonic wisdom (also angel dabbling "wizards"). 1 Corinthians answer from God:

(1 Corinthians 2:6-8) 6 Now we speak wisdom... but not the wisdom of this system of things... 7 But we speak God’s wisdom in a sacred secret, the hidden wisdom... 8 This wisdom not one of the rulers of this system of things came to know (Obviously Greek/Roman dogma does not cut it with God's Wisdom)
(1 Corinthians 1:20-21) . . .Where the debater of this system of things? Did not God make the wisdom of the world foolish? 21 For since, in the wisdom of God, the world through its wisdom did not get to know God, God saw good through the foolishness of what is preached to save those believing.

It is plain to see God's truth in one sentence, that mixing Greek metaphysics (worldly "wisdom") with Christian truth was only going to produce nothing but confusion; Spiritual wasteland "Goliathly" applied, a falsehood. Christendom of today, and yesteryear is a religion of Roman developed metaphysical philosophies grafted upon God's Truth about himself and his son, and everything else demons want to distort to continue perverting mankind, now through the Bible's teachings sauced up with demonic "wisdom", splashed globally. You can remove any church debate about who Jesus is, by remembering this fact of error. Full, complete, final exposure is here, to all who want to accept it: churches/clergy/'The Institution' teach Greek well guised Satanism in every one of their principle and derivative teachings: God's nature, Christ's nature, what the Holy spirit is, what Hell is, What the Soul is, what Heaven is, What Paradise is, What death is, What everlasting life is... etc. It's no wonder they know nothing of what any of these things truly are: They have been taught by deceptive, ancient, intellectually advanced: evil entities, posing as light givers; Demon teachers. It is God defined uselessness, in one sentence in 1 Corinthians (above). And here is another point: God warns us with prophecy about it:

(1 Timothy 4:1-2) 4 However, the inspired utterance says definitely that in later periods of time some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to misleading inspired utterances and teachings of demons, 2 by the hypocrisy of men who speak lies,. . .

How much clearer can it get? Just because it looks "holy" does not mean it is holy! Here is an immense global organization, all different names and shapes on the outside, all fully Catholicized on the inside. What bloodier, well documented travesty of justice does one need to have presented to their face, throughout centuries of history, than the globally recognized blasphemy of the Catholic Church? God does not need to make things any clearer, and neither does historic record. Catholicism made worldly emperors look like saints. It's so well recorded historically, there is no excuse to be part of ANYTHING from that Babel of confusion, arrogance, self-gain, self-exaltation, self-righteousness, murder and sin (Piled to Heaven itself, mind you: Revelation 18:5). What global organization is going to top Catholicism for gallons of innocent blood? NONE, she takes the cake! Lies, like the trinity, are par for her course, no surprises there. Why would a modern day church teach the very same logic and philosophies that produced the psychology of such a "disguised" monster as medieval, renaissance and modern Catholicism? A true 'Blasphemous Frankensteined Spirituality'; dead demon parts equal dead demon behaviors. This is not intolerance, I'm trying to help you save your own life, by God's truth, before he begins a whacking on that monstrous spiritual prostitute! And, He will, very soon. Revelation 18:4-8 It doesn't get any clearer than this, and here's some more, proving God knew way in advance, the kind of hypocrisy he would have to warn his children about, CLEAR AS DAY:

(2 Thessalonians 2:1-12) 2 However, brothers, respecting the presence of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered together to him, we request of you 2 not to be quickly shaken from your reason nor to be excited either through an inspired expression or through a verbal message or through a letter as though from us, to the effect that the day of Jehovah is here. 3 Let no one seduce you in any manner, because it will not come unless the apostasy comes first and the man of lawlessness gets revealed, the son of destruction. 4 He is set in opposition and lifts himself up over everyone who is called “god� or an object of reverence, so that he sits down in the (church) temple of The God, publicly showing himself to be a god. 5 Do you not remember that, while I was yet with you, I used to tell you these things? 6 And so now you know the thing that acts as a restraint, with a view to his being revealed in his own due time. 7 True, the mystery of this lawlessness is already at work; but only till he who is right now acting as a restraint gets to be out of the way. 8 Then, indeed, the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will do away with by the spirit of his mouth and bring to nothing by the manifestation of his presence. 9 But the lawless one’s presence is according to the operation of Satan with every powerful work and lying signs and portents 10 and with every unrighteous deception for those who are perishing, as a retribution because they did not accept the love of the truth that they might be saved. 11 So that is why God lets an operation of error go to them, that they may get to believing the lie, 12 in order that they all may be judged because they did not believe the truth but took pleasure in unrighteousness. (This is more than a glamorous Pope, for now all Christendom teach the same core human dogma, revealed to be a bit more than human: Satanic; Demonic Deception Teachings.)

http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... hp?t=11316
for more blood curdling trinity exposure