Debating Runners!

[FinalEnigma]

An idea struck me while out running today, I'm trying to get in shape and get some exercise, and I'm sure there's others on here who are as well, so why not do it together and be accountable to one another? we all know that if you just do it on your own, with nobody to keep you honorable you're gonna cheat.

Now You don't have to run if running isn't your thing, you can walk, swim, bike, skip, fly or marathon somersault down the street if you like, the important thing is to get some exercise and keep up with it. You don't actually have to debate while running either, although that is worth bonus points.

I'm making a usergroup for this, and I know it's a bit silly and has nothing to do with the forum, but this is for everyone who's trying to get in shape, lose weight, or bring down their mile time.

I know I'm a few days late, but here's my new years resolution: To outrun everyone on DC&R! Now who's gonna stop me?
That's gonna be a tough one I know, as I'm not much of a runner at the moment, and I know at least Confused can outrun me, and I doubt shes gonna give ground without a fight.
And I know some of you have resolutions to get in shape. according to a poll on the news a few days ago that's the most common resolution, so who's up for doing it together? maybe a little competition and fun while we are at it?

So if you are interested, just post here with your current status(running time and distance, biking, swimming, walking, weight you're trying to lose[don't have to tell us your weight, just how much your trying to lose!]) and keep us updated every week or two weeks and post your latest accomplishment. Feel free to join the usergroup Debating Runners as well.(which I'm making right after this post)
I'll put up my mile time tomorrow once I get it timed.

[FinalEnigma]

Biked 5 miles to a park with a trail through the woods, ran 3 miles through the woods, doing intermittent push-ups and pull-ups(they had pull-up bars at a spot at the trail head for some reason, so I figured I might as well), then biked 5 miles back. All not a week after getting hit by a car. Nyaaah!

Did I earn complete insanity too, Cmass?

If not I'll have to take my bike to school one day and bike 10 miles, run 4 or 5 with push ups and such in there, then free-run across campus a couple times at a sprint, and then go swim a few miles in the pool.

(this is free-running btw. I'm not that good, and I don't know how to do flips, but its the idea. I really want to learn how to do flips, though not for free-running. that's pointless.)

[Confused]

I think you underestimate Northern Florida there Cmass. While I will concede that we don't have the same gradient as you, but then, what I do compete against should balance it some. Like the extreme trail runs where we have to cross a quarter mile of muddy swamp to catch the trail, the sinkholes that require us to nearly slide down before we can run back up, the complete washout hills that we have to climb with our hands and feet before we can get back on the trail.

Unless they go below sea level, none of the sink holes are more the 345 deep though. (see note at bottom) Snore.
As for wetlands & swamps try traversing a muddy wetland on the side of a slope covered with devil's club and vine maple, or an avalanche gully with massive debris fields.
Besides, that is not really running, it is more of an obstacle course.

Cmass....great white hunter...go out...kill meat...feed many tribe!!!! Not... More like Cmass....great white botanist...go out....pull many weeds....feed to many tribe...many tribe die!!!

You know as well as I do that just straight running can be a bore day after day. That is why we add plyometrics in whenever we can't hit the obstacle courses. You are simply jealous because you know that if it came down to you and I, the XX would win as your medically insignificant Y chromosome could only hold you back!!!!

(BTW, anyone who knows Cmass and I knows that we jibe back and forth, so please don't take this as me insulting him (though I am) and report it)

As for the flattest state in the union... I thought that was Kansas. Learn something new every day I guess.

Yep, its Florida....much of which will not exist in another couple hundred years or so - except as a shallow fishing area.

Too bad you will be dead and unable to prove this claim. In a couple hundred years. the entire landscape of the earth could change again.

Currently, I am back to a sustainable 10 minute mile but with the plyometrics included, it hurts to walk, sit, reach.... well, just about everything. The ankle sure doesn't help, but what a bruise. One for the collection book to be proud of ( ). We are sticking with the Speed Demon trail except when we do hill intervals. Speed Demon is a little under 4 miles from the second trail entrance and a little under 5 from the first. Sustaining 4 miles despite the ankle and up to 100 push-ups (various forms) a day with at least 5 different core workouts added in. We will stick with the 4 miles until I can sustain about an 8-9 minute mile before I increase the distance. Once I do that, we will have to back off on some of the plyometrics. Camp Pendleton....HERE I COME!!!!

Nonetheless, by your description, you are probably more fit than anyone I know. And you are completely insane with your bush-whacking-extreme-sports-on-broken-bones mentality! That in itself is nothing short of inspiring.

You know as well as I do that you would keep running, biking, hiking, etc... despite the terrain and despite the injury. As long as you keep moving, there is always hope of getting where you are going. Recall the snowmobiling????????

[Confused]

Biked 5 miles to a park with a trail through the woods, ran 3 miles through the woods, doing intermittent push-ups and pull-ups(they had pull-up bars at a spot at the trail head for some reason, so I figured I might as well), then biked 5 miles back. All not a week after getting hit by a car. Nyaaah!

Did I earn complete insanity too, Cmass?

If not I'll have to take my bike to school one day and bike 10 miles, run 4 or 5 with push ups and such in there, then free-run across campus a couple times at a sprint, and then go swim a few miles in the pool.

(this is free-running btw. I'm not that good, and I don't know how to do flips, but its the idea. I really want to learn how to do flips, though not for free-running. that's pointless.)

Hmm..... I find myself in a dilemma. How can I insult Cmass' medically insignificant Y chromosome without insulting yours as well? How about we both just gang up on him.....

Usually, when Staci and I hit the trails without a lot of challenges, we mix up our plyometrics and don't really plan them ahead of time. They just sort of happen. I usually just pick places at random and we do whatever comes to mind. It keeps it fun most of the time. But biking is more challenging with the jumps and me landing in at least one creek about 50% of the time. Vicious cycle!!

[FinalEnigma]

I really need to find some better places to run. the trail in the woods I did wasn't much of an interesting one. And yeah, straight running all the time is a bit boring.

[FinalEnigma]

Biked 5 miles to a park with a trail through the woods, ran 3 miles through the woods, doing intermittent push-ups and pull-ups(they had pull-up bars at a spot at the trail head for some reason, so I figured I might as well), then biked 5 miles back.

Did that again yesterday. Almost 30 miles in two days. But I'm taking a break today, my legs need to recover from that.

[Nilloc James]

swim for 50 minutes followed by a nice 10 minutes of treding water, nice and refreshing.

[FinalEnigma]

swim for 50 minutes followed by a nice 10 minutes of treding water, nice and refreshing.

Wish I could do that, but I don't have a pool.

[Cmass]

You know as well as I do that you would keep running, biking, hiking, etc... despite the terrain and despite the injury. As long as you keep moving, there is always hope of getting where you are going. Recall the snowmobiling????????

I suppose so. My main thing right now is building this shed/shop thing with 18 hr days and just as many hours of up and down the ladder and carrying lumber and supplies. Banged up as hell: A hole in my thumb, huge gashes in both shins from dropping plywood on them, slivers, cuts, a scratched eye. I have developed what appears to be tendinitis is my left arm which feels like someone beat it with a baseball bat. I estimated the average number of times I go up and down the ladder carrying things is the equivalent of at least 1,500 ft per day. This better count as a workout!! It is the equivalent of doing a stairmaster for as many hours - except the addition of lifting objects.

Do you mean this snowmobile day from a couple of years ago? We all ended up pretty banged up but the snow was 30' deep with 6' new so who the heck could miss out on that!? Still, I don't recall every running on a broken bone. You are nuts.

[Confused]

You know as well as I do that you would keep running, biking, hiking, etc... despite the terrain and despite the injury. As long as you keep moving, there is always hope of getting where you are going. Recall the snowmobiling????????

I suppose so. My main thing right now is building this shed/shop thing with 18 hr days and just as many hours of up and down the ladder and carrying lumber and supplies. Banged up as hell: A hole in my thumb, huge gashes in both shins from dropping plywood on them, slivers, cuts, a scratched eye. I have developed what appears to be tendinitis is my left arm which feels like someone beat it with a baseball bat. I estimated the average number of times I go up and down the ladder carrying things is the equivalent of at least 1,500 ft per day. This better count as a workout!! It is the equivalent of doing a stairmaster for as many hours - except the addition of lifting objects.

Do you mean this snowmobile day from a couple of years ago? We all ended up pretty banged up but the snow was 30' deep with 6' new so who the heck could miss out on that!? Still, I don't recall every running on a broken bone. You are nuts.

No, my reference was to when you went ALONE!!! At least I take a partner (well, mostly). And you would run on a broken bone if you had to and you know I have to. So !!!!

And let's not even start into the dirt biking!!!! You are as nuts as I am if not more so, so don't anyone let him fool you.

[Cmass]

No, my reference was to when you went ALONE!!! At least I take a partner (well, mostly). And you would run on a broken bone if you had to and you know I have to. So !!!!

And let's not even start into the dirt biking!!!! You are as nuts as I am if not more so, so don't anyone let him fool you.

Most of the time I go dirt biking, I go alone because most of the time it is in the middle of the night. This is only because I ride in illegal areas next to my house and don't want to get caught. So at least I have a legitimate excuse! But I am always wearing a full suit of armor and have a host of navigation and communication devices. I most certainly don't go dirt biking with broken bones!

I also get one hell of a workout - probably more than a long run since I ride a relatively heavy 400 cc dual sport on tight trails.

This might be the incident you are referring to. It was about 2:30 AM and I was riding just after a wind storm and struggling dragging the bike over downed trees. I was absolutely exhausted and miscalculated on a mass of tree roots (you can see the roots that threw me in the picture) and ended up down in a ravine. The bike only had slightly bent handlebars but most unfortunately I cracked a $100 helmet on a tree on the way down. (You see? The armor works! Only a stiff neck the next day) It took me about 3 hours to drag the bike back up to the "trail" by pulling the front tire up & then securing with a rope, followed by the rear tire then securing with a rope & so forth. I made it home just as the sun was rising.
My biggest concern was that I was low on fuel and since the bike ended up upside down in the ravine it was leaking gas rather badly. The bike weighs nearly 400 lbs which made it nearly impossible to push up into the upright position from below it. I ended up crawling under it on the downhill side and just dead lifting into position. (only a slight burn from the exhaust when it melted through my suit)

- C



Using a camera timer, this was taken a week afterward from the mountain above the crash area: