Christian Marriage and Homosexuality

[1angelette]

1. Christian life is better than non-Christian life (according to Christians).

2. Hence, Christian marriage (going to the chapel and all that) is better than going to court and getting a slip. It is also better than sitting in a circle while the chief of your tribe waves a smoking torch while chanting "Ooga booga, ooga booga!" (given that 1 is true)

3. But homosexuals can't go to the chapel and get married. They can only go to court (in certain states/countries) or go to a herectic religion of some sort.

4. Hence, EITHER Christianity is not better than a lack of Christianity, OR hetereosexuality is superior to homosexuality. And the second is a statement many Christians aren't comfortable making nowadays.

So: Is heterosexuality better than homosexuality from a secular point of view? (My aunt actually thinks it's a health risk.) If not, how can Christian marriage retain sacredness? Debate.

[Goat]

1. Christian life is better than non-Christian life (according to Christians).

2. Hence, Christian marriage (going to the chapel and all that) is better than going to court and getting a slip. It is also better than sitting in a circle while the chief of your tribe waves a smoking torch while chanting "Ooga booga, ooga booga!" (given that 1 is true)

3. But homosexuals can't go to the chapel and get married. They can only go to court (in certain states/countries) or go to a herectic religion of some sort.

4. Hence, EITHER Christianity is not better than a lack of Christianity, OR hetereosexuality is superior to homosexuality. And the second is a statement many Christians aren't comfortable making nowadays.

So: Is heterosexuality better than homosexuality from a secular point of view? (My aunt actually thinks it's a health risk.) If not, how can Christian marriage retain sacredness? Debate.

Well... for me, heterosexuality is better than homosexuality..but that is my personal preference. From my point of view, what is a health risk is not your sexual orientation, but how promiscuous or not you are. Certain behaviors are riskier than others, such as drug use and multiple partners.

As for Christian marriage 'retaining sacredness', how can it retain sacredness when many of the Christians that claim it have been divorced multiple times?

[Nameless]

If someone wants to get married, of whatever sexual orientation, it's their business and no one elses (assuming legality; no minors or goats...).
A Xtian can do as he likes, also.
There are churches who will perform the ceremony for all of gods children, regardless.
And also biggoted ignorant obsolete churches that will marry ignorant obsolete biggots on ignorant obsolete biggoted 'sacred' ground.
I'll enjoy the day when they grow past their fascism and trying to remake the world in their image at the point of a sword. They already have a god made in their image. Facists! Hypocrites! Just never enough for the prideful little sinners!
Pffft!
rant over

[clombize]

1. Christian life is better than non-Christian life (according to Christians).

2. Hence, Christian marriage (going to the chapel and all that) is better than going to court and getting a slip. It is also better than sitting in a circle while the chief of your tribe waves a smoking torch while chanting "Ooga booga, ooga booga!" (given that 1 is true)

3. But homosexuals can't go to the chapel and get married. They can only go to court (in certain states/countries) or go to a herectic religion of some sort.

4. Hence, EITHER Christianity is not better than a lack of Christianity, OR hetereosexuality is superior to homosexuality. And the second is a statement many Christians aren't comfortable making nowadays.

So: Is heterosexuality better than homosexuality from a secular point of view? (My aunt actually thinks it's a health risk.) If not, how can Christian marriage retain sacredness? Debate.

Thought you were a Christian trying seriously argue this at first so was quite glad to notice you weren't. As a Christian I'll give you my take on it.

The first point is a bit vauge. What is 'better,' mean? In terms of eternal fate, love of God, yes it would be regarded better for a person to be Christian than non-Christian. That doesn't really translate to marriage though. Theres no such thing as Christian marriage for one thing. Theres Catholic, Anglican, Eastern Orthadox, Mourmon etc and they will all call each other heritics.

The more important point, for me anyway, should be that people shouldn't be judged 'better,' or 'worse,' in Christianity. First shall be last, last shall be first, judge not lest ye be judged, he without sin may throw the first stone and Jesus regularly talks of judgment coming through the father, not earthly institutions. Everyone is equal in Christ and those who anyone views as the weakest or worst should be treated with the most love. Attitudes to homosexuality and homosexual marriage are always going to be a personal reaction to the idea, perhaps with reference to religious beliefs but the idea of better/worse shouldn't really come into it.

Mind you, nearly all religious authorities would say, if you twist their arms enough (and some don't need much twisting-see Pope), that they believe hetrosexuality is the natural condition of humanity and homosexuality is at best an abnormality of birth which is not in itself sinful-which does mean that a homosexual is not nessecerily inferior to a hetrosexual. In most Christian theology, it is the act of homosexual sex which is sinful, which I personally disagree with for the simple reasons the reasons giving for believing it seem very flimsy to me and it goes aganist my conscience.

[TheQuestioner]

1angelette wrote

So: Is heterosexuality better than homosexuality from a secular point of view? (My aunt actually thinks it's a health risk.) If not, how can Christian marriage retain sacredness? Debate

i might just be blind or confused but how could a secular point of view consider a christian marriage as sacred? that kind of confused me with the tie in to being gay

[Creed]

i'd prefer it if all factors where taken into account.

[Skyler]

1. Christian life is better than non-Christian life (according to Christians).

All right.

2. Hence, Christian marriage (going to the chapel and all that) is better than going to court and getting a slip. It is also better than sitting in a circle while the chief of your tribe waves a smoking torch while chanting "Ooga booga, ooga booga!" (given that 1 is true)

A. I've never seen "going to the chapel" as a requirement for marriage in the Bible. I may have missed it, though, so if you have a reference, I'd be glad to reconsider my position.
B. I would certainly agree about sitting in a circle with a smoking torch. I hate getting smoke in my lungs.

3. But homosexuals can't go to the chapel and get married. They can only go to court (in certain states/countries) or go to a herectic religion of some sort.

They can go to the chapel in some places.

4. Hence, EITHER Christianity is not better than a lack of Christianity, OR hetereosexuality is superior to homosexuality. And the second is a statement many Christians aren't comfortable making nowadays.

I am comfortable saying that. Paul says quite clearly that homosexuality is one of the characteristics of those who will not inherit the kingdom of God.

So: Is heterosexuality better than homosexuality from a secular point of view? (My aunt actually thinks it's a health risk.) If not, how can Christian marriage retain sacredness? Debate.

From a secular point of view, I guess what I've heard is that homosexuals are more likely to contract STDs than those living in a monogamous heterosexual relationship. Other than that, I can't say that it really is better, from a secular point of view.

From a Biblical point of view, homosexuality is a sin, so heterosexuality is clearly better.

Skyler

[Evales]

From a secular point of view, I guess what I've heard is that homosexuals are more likely to contract STDs than those living in a monogamous heterosexual relationship. Other than that, I can't say that it really is better, from a secular point of view.

From a Biblical point of view, homosexuality is a sin, so heterosexuality is clearly better.

Skyler

Just like to point that that heterosexuals are more likely to contract STD's then those living in a monogamous homosexual relationship. Anyone in a monogamous relaitionship is less likely to contract STD's then those not.