Is Jesus coming back?

[justifyothers]

I haven't posted in this forum before, but I feel I need a respite from the other one

I was just wondering what we all think about the return of Jesus? Is it a literal return or was that taken care of through the spirit? Is there a misunderstanding of scripture?


What is your perspective on this? Please feel free to use scripture, or simply state your opinions on this......

[myth-one.com]

I was just wondering what we all think about the return of Jesus? Is it a literal return or was that taken care of through the spirit? Is there a misunderstanding of scripture?

The Second Coming is described in Revelation chapter nineteen:

And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. (Revelation 19:11-13)

The only part of the Trinity of God who became flesh and dwelt among us was Jesus Christ:

And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us... (John 1:14)

Therefore, the deity named "The Word of God" coming from heaven on a white horse is Jesus Christ. This is His Second Coming to the earth! The reason He is coming back is to rule the earth for ever and ever. Jesus will defeat Satan and the Earth will rejoin the Kingdom of Heaven. Jesus will then rule the Earth from new Jerusalem for ever and ever:

The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever. (Revelation 11:15)

What will the born again Christians be doing?

...we shall also reign with him. (II Timothy 2:12)

And how long will we be on the Earth reigning with Jesus? For eternity:

...and so shall we ever be with the Lord. (I Thessalonians 4:17)

When will the Second Coming occur? Only God the Father knows the exact date of the Second Coming:

But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father. (Mark 13:32)

Although only the Father knows the actual date, numerous signs will appear which indicate that the end is near: wars, rumors of wars, the antichrist, etc. When these signs appear, some of the generation alive at that time will live to see the Second Coming of Christ:

So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors. Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. (Matthew 24:33-34)

One of these signs can be used to place a time period around the return of Christ. In 1400 BC, God sent Moses to lead the children of Israel out of Egyptian bondage and form a nation for the first time. The Bible states that in the end times, God's chosen people will be gathered together a second time to form a nation:

And it shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord shall set his hand again the second time to recover the remnant of his people, which shall be left... and he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth. (Isaiah 11:11-12)

"In that day" indicates the end times, and ensign indicates a national flag. After World War II, the scrappy Jews who survived the war years returned to the land promised to Abraham and formed a nation in 1948. Today all nations recognize their flag, even if some do not honor it. So when the prophesied signs of the end times appear, some of the generation alive at that time will live to see the Second Coming of Christ. One of these end time signs is that God's chosen people will be gathered a second time to form a nation. In Genesis, God placed an upper limit on man's life span:

And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be a hundred and twenty years. (Genesis 6:3)

That is, no human can live longer than one hundred and twenty years. Therefore, if Jesus is going to return during the lifetime of those alive when the nation of Israel was formed a second time in 1948, He must return during or before the year 2068. This is due to the fact that any babies born in 1948 will be at their biological limit in the year 2068 (1948 + 120 = 2068). A baby born in 1948 can live until 2068 if he or she lives their maximum possible period of life. More realistic life spans today are 80-90 years. In any event, a rough estimate on the Second Coming of Christ is during or before the year 2068. Jesus will return to save the earth from destroying itself:

For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened. (Matthew 24:21-22)

[InTheFlesh]

Myth wrote:
"The only part of the Trinity of God who became flesh and dwelt among us was Jesus Christ"
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Are you a religious robot?
How can you justify that statement?
Can you provide any scripture that says that only 1/3 of God was manifest?

"And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory."

If you say that only 1/3 of God was manifest you are changing the word of God.

Prov.30
[6] Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.
Made sure to add the chapter and verse on that one!

"For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily"

Are you saying that the "Trinity" did not manifest in the body of Jesus?

"Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us."

This doesn't only speak of Christ the man.
It speaks of Emmanuel,
so God came to his people.
He told us he would in the Old Testament
and he came through in the new.

"For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us"

The eternal life that was with the Father was the Father.
Just as the Word that was with God was God.

[myth-one.com]

Is it a literal return or was that taken care of through the spirit?

It is a literal return as defined in Revelation 19:11-13. Jesus will return as a spiritual being from heaven. He will defeat Satan and the earth will once again become part of the Kingdom of God:

The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever. (Revelation 11:15)

In fact, there will be no humans alive on the earth when it rejoins the Kingdom of God. All former humans who are still alive at that time will be everlasting spiritual bodied angels since flesh and blood cannot inherit that Kingdom:

And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly. Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God;... (I Corinthians 15:49-50)

[center]=================================================================================================================[/center]Although no one but the Father knows the exact date, more can be said about the timing of the Second Coming.

It is a sign... (Exodus 31:13)
It is a sign... (Exodus 31:17)
I gave them my sabbaths, to be a sign... (Ezekiel 20:12)

The Sabbath, the seventh day of the calendar week, Saturday, is given to all mankind as a sign. But a sign of what? What are we supposed to look for? A Sabbath is a period of rest following six previous equal periods of work. The periods are not always equal to a day:

Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When ye come into the land which I give you, then shall the land keep a sabbath unto the Lord. Six years thou shalt sow thy field, and six years thou shalt prune thy vineyard, and gather in the fruit thereof; But in the seventh year shall be a sabbath of rest unto the land, a sabbath for the Lord: thou shalt neither sow thy field, nor prune thy vineyard. (Leviticus 25:2-4)

The Sabbath defined for farmland is to sow and harvest the land for six years, then let it rest the seventh year.

Today's Christians should be at work spreading the gospel. Is there a period of rest coming for these Christians?

There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God. For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his. (Hebrews 4:9-10)

There will be a period of rest for God's people according to the scriptures. This period of rest for Christians will be the millennium. The millennium is a thousand-year period in which our adversary Satan is imprisoned. Since Satan is locked away during this time, it is truly a period of rest. So the millennium is a period of rest, or Sabbath, equal to a thousand years. However, a thousand years to God seems like only one of our days:

But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, ... (II Peter 3:8)

For the millennium to be a Sabbath, it must have been preceeded by six equal periods of work. Therefore, from the Genesis creation of man, we should have six one thousand year long periods of work before the millennium Sabbath begins. So the sign which the six-day Genesis recreation followed by the Sabbath day of rest points to is what we are living through presently! This is the age of man. Our age will be six thousand years of work, or six days to God since a thousand years is like one of our days, followed by a thousand years of rest which is the millennium Sabbath. It is a replica of the Genesis recreation![center]=================================================================================================================[/center]

Is there a misunderstanding of scripture?

Not sure exactly what you are asking here, but in general scripture is misunderstood. Incredibly, God placed the answers to man's every question in a book, then sealed the book from man's understanding:

And the vision of all is become unto you as the words of a book that is sealed, which men deliver to one that is learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I cannot for it is sealed: (Isaiah 29:11)

When will the words of the book be unsealed:

But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased. (Daniel 12:4)

And in that day shall the deaf hear the words of the book, and the eyes of the blind shall see out of obscurity, and out of darkness. (Isaiah 29:18)

The words of the Bible are sealed until the time of the end. In this time of the end, shortly before the Second Coming of Jesus Christ to the earth, knowledge shall be increased and the scriptures shall be unsealed. Until that time, man is basically ignorant in regards to the scriptures!

King Soloman, one of the world's "wisest" men, may have come the closest to understanding the sealed scriptures. After a lifetime of seeking treasure, women, and whatever appeared to bring him pleasure; Soloman reached this final conclusion of the whole matter of life:

Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man. (Ecclesiastes 12:13)

[InTheFlesh]

His name is King Solomon!

[myth-one.com]

His name is King Solomon!

Yes, thanks for that correction. My only defence is that I live on the Texas Gulf coast and am now huurriedly preparing for arrival of Eich.

[joer]

He'll be back!