The purpose of this thread is to talk about the recent spam posts by followers of Harun Yahya. I did a little bit of research and found that it's Muslim Turkish cult led by one Adnan Oktar, and known for publishing Holocaust denials as well as gobs of anti-evolution tracts. This wonderful fellow has also sued online communities and, according to WP, "was convicted a variety of crimes including engaging in criminal threats."
For more information, look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adnan_Oktar and don't skip the section on prosecution for rape.
He is a plague and we would be fools to allow him and his followers free reign on this site. I say kick him out, wholesale. Any comments?
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I agree. I, personally would extend it to anyone publishing anti-intellectual crap as if it has equal standing.
There is plenty of coverage for holocaust deniers, anti-evolution people, homeopathy pushers, etc. It gets back to a point I try to make continually: we are wasting precious moments of our lives letting these people selfishly steal hours of time from people who have to rebut it just because you can't let this stuff pass. Someone, some PZ Myers or Richard Dawkins has to spend months defending some of the most asinine statements ever made by mankind.
That is why I am tiring of the "debate" on this forum. Every theist simply offers the same argument and someone has to take time out of their day to rebut them and push them back into the cracks and shadow of the Dark Ages from whence they come. And these people, these ignorant people, who would ignore all the patient findings of some of the most brilliant minds; the linear progression of learning, only need to cut and paste their stupid crap. They fill it with science-sounding words and too much crap to rebut properly in this forum.
However, they have been rebutted and they have been shown to be ignorant.
Here is the danger of religion. The misology of the fanatic and these people have children.
To me, it is not just about the obvious nuts, but also the less crazy who do the same thing:
1. Cut and Paste old arguments that have been addressed
2. Ignore the rebuttals
3. Keep claiming that no one has rebutt them or claim noone can disprove god.
4.Start posting on numerous sites, get people talking about them and find the disaffected youth to join them.
This is religion. Study this religion and you will know exactly what is was like to live and watch during Jesus's time.
Religion can be good, but it often used for this.
Ban them and anyone like them. Why should we suffer someone to lose minutes out of their finite life to delete their posts or ignore them. Even that is more response than these dirka dirks need.
There is plenty of coverage for holocaust deniers, anti-evolution people, homeopathy pushers, etc. It gets back to a point I try to make continually: we are wasting precious moments of our lives letting these people selfishly steal hours of time from people who have to rebut it just because you can't let this stuff pass. Someone, some PZ Myers or Richard Dawkins has to spend months defending some of the most asinine statements ever made by mankind.
That is why I am tiring of the "debate" on this forum. Every theist simply offers the same argument and someone has to take time out of their day to rebut them and push them back into the cracks and shadow of the Dark Ages from whence they come. And these people, these ignorant people, who would ignore all the patient findings of some of the most brilliant minds; the linear progression of learning, only need to cut and paste their stupid crap. They fill it with science-sounding words and too much crap to rebut properly in this forum.
However, they have been rebutted and they have been shown to be ignorant.
Here is the danger of religion. The misology of the fanatic and these people have children.
To me, it is not just about the obvious nuts, but also the less crazy who do the same thing:
1. Cut and Paste old arguments that have been addressed
2. Ignore the rebuttals
3. Keep claiming that no one has rebutt them or claim noone can disprove god.
4.Start posting on numerous sites, get people talking about them and find the disaffected youth to join them.
This is religion. Study this religion and you will know exactly what is was like to live and watch during Jesus's time.
Religion can be good, but it often used for this.
Ban them and anyone like them. Why should we suffer someone to lose minutes out of their finite life to delete their posts or ignore them. Even that is more response than these dirka dirks need.
Imagine the people who believe ... and not ashamed to ignore, totally, all the patient findings of thinking minds through all the centuries since the Bible.... It is these ignorant people�who would force their feeble and childish beliefs on us...I.Asimov