Religeon

[Not Brainwashed]

Im am From Essex in England and i do not believe in God, I do see how i can believe something i cannot see, feel, smell etc. Can anybody please explain how you do believe in " God "?
Thanks

[McCulloch]

Can anybody please explain how you do believe in " God "?

The mathematician John Allen Paulos has cataloged twelve reasons given for believing in God. For the convenience of the perplexed and as a starting point for debate, I have posted them in a debate thread.

I believe in addition to these twelve unassailable reasons, there can be added

1. argumentum ad antiquitatem - the ancients believed it so it must be true
2. argumentum ad populum - lots of people believe it, so it must be true
3. proof by assertion - if enough people insist that it is true often enough, then it becomes true
4. argumentum in terrorem - believe it, or you're going to roast in hell for eternity
5. argumentum ad verecundiam - various great thinkers believe it, so it must be true
6. wishful thinking - I cannot imagine there not being a god and life would be meaningless, therefore it must be true
7. special pleading - divine reasoning is different than human reasoning

[sarcasm]With such an array of incontrovertible logic and reason supporting the belief in God, I cannot see why anyone would doubt.[/sarcasm]

[Not Brainwashed]

I have no idea what that means what you just put!!! why is it that when ever this question gets asked people quote other people or scripters?? Answer in your own words not other peoples!!! Why do YOU believe in God? I dont because everything around us that i can see was created by man, i cannot see god, i cannot hear him, feel him, see his affects on the world!

[McCulloch]

I have no idea what that means what you just put!!! why is it that when ever this question gets asked people quote other people or scripters?? Answer in your own words not other peoples!!! Why do YOU believe in God? I dont because everything around us that i can see was created by man, i cannot see god, i cannot hear him, feel him, see his affects on the world!

You're new here. Look to the left of the post. It lists the user groups that I belong to. Among them are

• Agnostic
• Atheist
• Does not believe in Santa
• Former Christian
• Freethinkers
• Humanist
• Non-Theist

I do not believe in God. I provided the link and the list as a service to you. These are reasons why some people say that they believe in God. If you follow the link, you should be able to find that some of the people who believe in god (the theists), post their reasons.

Or not

[McCulloch]

And here is another prize-winning reason to believe in God. The argument from the calendar:

I've made this point. Consider, an obscure carpenters son, charged and convicted of sedition, then executed. Think about the odds, that time it'self is reconed from the day of this mans birth. What year is it? 2005. 2005 from when? 2005 from the birth of Jesus Christ. If there is no God and Jesus is not the son of God, how could this have happened?

See, if you really want to believe in God, then there are so so many reasons you can use. Each one as good as the next. Hundreds of them. Go ahead, I'll bet you could make up a few yourself.

[Ilias Ahmad]

I have no idea what that means what you just put!!! why is it that when ever this question gets asked people quote other people or scripters?? Answer in your own words not other peoples!!! Why do YOU believe in God? I dont because everything around us that i can see was created by man, i cannot see god, i cannot hear him, feel him, see his affects on the world!

There is really only one reason to believe in God. First of all I don't like this word "God" because it has germanic/pagan roots, and who knows what it really means. It can be used in all kinds of connotations, it can be pluralized, etc. Rather we should use the real name of "God" which is ALLAH, Holy and Exalted is He. Allah means the One who alone is worthy of worship.

So the reason to believe in Allah is because He is the One who created all things, the cosmos, the stars, planets, life, animals, you and me. Everything which exists has been created by Allah (with the exception of Allah Himself, who is without beginning and without end). The atheist cannot give a satisfactory answer as to how did the universe and everything in it come into existence. Some give ridiculous argument that it was some kind of random accident. However, only Islam can give a real answer, the only logical answer, that the creation must have a Creator, who is not subject to the same things which the creation is subject to.

So believe in Allah because He alone is the only Reality. Everything aside from Allah is false.

[McCulloch]

There is really only one reason to believe in God. First of all I don't like this word "God" because it has germanic/pagan roots, and who knows what it really means. It can be used in all kinds of connotations, it can be pluralized, etc. Rather we should use the real name of "God" which is ALLAH, Holy and Exalted is He. Allah means the One who alone is worthy of worship.

So the reason to believe in Allah is because He is the One who created all things, the cosmos, the stars, planets, life, animals, you and me. Everything which exists has been created by Allah (with the exception of Allah Himself, who is without beginning and without end). The atheist cannot give a satisfactory answer as to how did the universe and everything in it come into existence.

The only honest answer about how did the universe and everything in it come into existence is, "I don't really know." Saying that Allah made it makes as much sense as saying that , One day, Mbombo felt a terrible pain in his stomach, and vomited the sun, the moon, and the stars.

However, only Islam can give a real answer, the only logical answer, that the creation must have a Creator, who is not subject to the same things which the creation is subject to.

This is called special pleading.

So believe in Allah because He alone is the only Reality. Everything aside from Allah is false.

How is your statement any different from, "So believe in the Universe because it alone is the only Reality. Everything aside from the Universe is false." The only difference is that we know that the universe exists. Allah, on the other hand, is mere speculation.

[Ilias Ahmad]

How is your statement any different from, "So believe in the Universe because it alone is the only Reality. Everything aside from the Universe is false." The only difference is that we know that the universe exists. Allah, on the other hand, is mere speculation.

Your comparison is flawed. The universe has a beginning, and doubtless it will have an end. Even your own scientists admit this. Allah, however, is not subject to beginnings or ends:

And call not, besides Allah, on another god. There is no god but He. Everything will perish except His Face. To Him belongs the Command, and to Him will ye (all) be brought back. (Holy Quran 28:88)

[Ilias Ahmad]

One day, Mbombo felt a terrible pain in his stomach, and vomited the sun, the moon, and the stars.

Unlike Allah, Mbombo never revealed himself to humanity. This is why we believe in Allah alone as the One and Only God. If Allah didn't reveal Himself through Prophet Muhammad (sallallahu alaihi wa salam), you would be justified in calling our belief in Him as mere speculation without any logical basis.

[Goat]

How is your statement any different from, "So believe in the Universe because it alone is the only Reality. Everything aside from the Universe is false." The only difference is that we know that the universe exists. Allah, on the other hand, is mere speculation.

Your comparison is flawed. The universe has a beginning, and doubtless it will have an end. Even your own scientists admit this. Allah, however, is not subject to beginnings or ends:

And call not, besides Allah, on another god. There is no god but He. Everything will perish except His Face. To Him belongs the Command, and to Him will ye (all) be brought back. (Holy Quran 28:88)

You do have a error here. Science does not say where the singularity comes from. Until we get more information, we can't say what happened before 10 ^ -43 seconds into the expansion. Frankly, to say that scientists claim that is known as a 'straw man', because you are misrepresenting what scientists DO say.