A VISION ... PARALLEL TO THE HORIZON OF TRUTH

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A VISION ... PARALLEL TO THE HORIZON OF TRUTH

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500 YEARS AGO – Visionaries envisioned that someday boxes shall have sound, steel shall float and fly. . Now verified.
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Less than 100 YEARS AGO – it was rumored that mankind shall go to moon. General reaction of Traditional Faith Believers … “ Baloney !!! … No human can fathom God’s mystery … no way” …. But when mankind landed on Moon … those Baloney was buried on the ground.
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Now … Traditional Faith Believers insisted on their ambiguous and gobbledygook dogma … until days to come that they too be buried with their religious anathema.
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VENTURING UNTO THE ORIGIN OF THE UNIVERSE
Our universe is a mess — a colossal "cosmic web" of galaxies strung into filaments and tendrils that are millions or billions of light-years long.
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Although this web's basic structure is resolved, astronomers say understanding it in more detail requires new observatories, better computing and a lot of luck.
"When you look into a large telescope, the reality of the cosmic web hits you in the face because you can see how galaxies are organized," said Rodrigo Ibata, an astronomer at the Observatoire Astronomique de Strasbourg in France. "We have clear evidence for the cosmic web's existence, but there is still so much we don't know about it."
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Ibata explained that the cosmic web filaments are held together by dark matter, unseen stuff that makes up 85 percent of all mass in the universe.
"It's intrinsically tough to study something you can't see, so dark matter makes understanding the cosmic web an exceedingly difficult challenge," Ibata told SPACE.com.
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Ibata and other astronomers detail some of the cosmic web's mysteries last week in the journal Science.
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Intergalactic Highway
The cosmic web is thought to funnel galaxies, gas and dark matter around the universe, something like a chaotic intergalactic highway. Ibata said he's looking to our own celestial neighborhood for effects of this network.
"We think cosmic web tendrils feed directly into galaxies, dump matter onto them and build them up," Ibata said.
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Ibata hopes new star data gathered by the European Space Agency's GAIA spacecraft, set to launch in 2011, will help gather evidence of such activity near the Milky Way.
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"It's going to make things very interesting over the coming years," he said of GAIA, which will finely measure the distances and movements of more than a billion local stars. Such data could reveal where — and what — cosmic web tendrils might be spilling into our neck of the celestial woods.
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"The environment within these tendrils could be one of the most important factors in galaxy formation," Ibata said.
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To use mountains of data that GAIA and other observatories are expected to deliver in the future, however, Ibata said computer technology will have to catch up. "If we were to get such data now, we wouldn't be able to efficiently process it," he said.
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Simulating the Universe

Claude-Andre Faucher-Giguere, a graduate student in astrophysics at Harvard University, agrees.
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"We need powerful computers to deal with raw astronomy data," Faucher-Giguere said. "But another aspect is that once it's processed, we need to be able to learn something from it."
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Faucher-Giguere said computer simulations help with the task by giving astronomers grounds for comparison. If a simulation fits a set of observations, it helps astronomers pick the best theoretical track to explain what they see.
Our current big-picture view of the universe is based mostly on optical light, Faucher-Giguere said, but new observatories will look deep into the cosmos in wavelengths such as infrared and radio.
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"We'll need new, better simulations to make sense of data we haven't yet learned how to analyze," he said. "We need to be prepared or else we won't know what we're looking at."
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Faucher-Giguere expects astronomers to increasingly team up with computer-savvy theoreticians to extract the latest knowledge about our universe in an efficient way.
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"Astronomy is driven by new observations," he said, "but to make use of these new windows onto the universe, we really have to keep up with the theoretical work."

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catholic crusader wrote:
goat wrote: Can you present any non-biblical evidence from before the Jewish revolt that Jesus existed? NO?? How about a miracle ,or the resurrection , NO ?? Gasp.
again for the people who failed to read this post.
I'm not making any claims of any sort regarding any thing to do with christ.

I want you guys to back up your claim that he's just a myth.

I'm absolutly not making any claims myself.
Let's see.. there are certain mythic elements to the Jesus claim that as far as we can see are physically impossible.

Being raised from the dead, born of a virgin, walking on water, cursing fig trees, and all sort of stories like that show a mythic nature to what is said about Jesus.
These outrageous claims show that Jesus is a myth.
“What do you think science is? There is nothing magical about science. It is simply a systematic way for carefully and thoroughly observing nature and using consistent logic to evaluate results. So which part of that exactly do you disagree with? Do you disagree with being thorough? Using careful observation? Being systematic? Or using consistent logic?�

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Cathar1950 wrote: Show me where I said you were Catholic.
Cathar1950 wrote:Your real issue is with your view of scriptures and your belief in them or even your doctrines which go beyond any quest about the existence of a human that is remote related to the Jesus of faith.
My view of the scriptures?

If I'm not catholic or christian what scriptures are you refering to?

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goat wrote:
catholic crusader wrote:
goat wrote: Can you present any non-biblical evidence from before the Jewish revolt that Jesus existed? NO?? How about a miracle ,or the resurrection , NO ?? Gasp.
again for the people who failed to read this post.
I'm not making any claims of any sort regarding any thing to do with christ.

I want you guys to back up your claim that he's just a myth.

I'm absolutly not making any claims myself.
Let's see.. there are certain mythic elements to the Jesus claim that as far as we can see are physically impossible.

Being raised from the dead, born of a virgin, walking on water, cursing fig trees, and all sort of stories like that show a mythic nature to what is said about Jesus.
These outrageous claims show that Jesus is a myth.
Okay a couple points.
I want you guys to back up your claim that he's just a myth.
Prove that their was no person.
there are certain mythic elements to the Jesus claim
I didn't ask about elements. I asked about the person. Prove that their was no person.
Being raised from the dead, born of a virgin, walking on water, cursing fig trees, and all sort of stories like that show a mythic nature to what is said about Jesus.
These outrageous claims show that Jesus is a myth.
Outrageous claims do not prove that christ is just a myth.

First I want to point out the difference between a myth and a lie.

A lie is when some one is not telling the truth.

A myth is a lyrical ritual, a story. The purpose of a myth is to convey deep spiritual truths.

For example the myth of the minotaur. Is a myth about rencarnation. The minotaur is symbolic of half man half beast. It's about having incanations as both human and animal. The maze is about us being lost in physical existence unable to find our way back out.

That is the spiritual truths encoded into the minotaur myth.

You are claiming christ is a myth. Then what is the deep spiritual meanings he is to convey?

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My apologies, this is Catholic Crusaders post. Hit the wrong key (shocker). Sorry Catholic Crusader.

catholic crusader wrote:
Cathar1950 wrote: Your real issue is with your view of scriptures and your belief in them or even your doctrines which go beyond any quest about the existence of a human that is remote related to the Jesus of faith.

Have you been reading my posts?

I've said this twice already.

I'll make it extra big so that vision impaired people can read it. :shock:
First if you think i'm catholic I just proved that you make false conclusion based on questionable evidence.
mabe you didn't understand?

mabe I should explain it to you. Since you don't seem to understand the finer points of subtilty.

It means I'M NOT CATHOLIC.

The fact that I put catholic in my username is questionable proof of my religion.

Any one can put catholic in their username.

I could be a religion that HATES catholics for all you know.

HEHEHE and guess what.
I'm having a lot of fun watching you fall all over yourselves. like a bunch of ______ trying to prove something you can't prove.

Stick to what you can prove and you won't make statements you can't prove.
I gave you lots and lots of warning to.
I'm not making any claims of any sort regarding any thing to do with christ.

I want you guys to back up your claim that he's just a myth.

I'm absolutly not making any claims myself.
again for the people who failed to read this post.
I'm not making any claims of any sort regarding any thing to do with christ.

I want you guys to back up your claim that he's just a myth.

I'm absolutly not making any claims myself.
PLEASE for your own sake.

How many times can I explain it to you?

How much more explicit can I get?


I AM NOT A CATHOLIC

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