A question to Jews about Jesus Christ:

[Truth_Teller]

The following question has been in my mind since quite a few days and thus have decided to ask posters of Judaism belief (on board):

If Jesus (peace be upon him) was a false prophet/messiah (God forbid) and was punished by the court by being killed at the cross, do you have any grave or anything as a proof to show that he really died at the cross (God forbid)???

Will be very thank if any Jew can clarify things here by replying.

Waiting for your answers folks......

[Pazuzu bin Hanbi]

I don’t think they care. Do you care about Mirza Ghulam Ahmad’s grave?

[Goat]

The following question has been in my mind since quite a few days and thus have decided to ask posters of Judaism belief (on board):

If Jesus (peace be upon him) was a false prophet/messiah (God forbid) and was punished by the court by being killed at the cross, do you have any grave or anything as a proof to show that he really died at the cross (God forbid)???

Will be very thank if any Jew can clarify things here by replying.

Waiting for your answers folks......

I don't have any evidence that Jesus even EXISTED , much less that he was killed on a cross, or did not be killed on the cross.

Do you have any evidence he existed? Do you have any evidence he was 'taken directly to heaven'?

And no, I won't accept the sayings of the Koran as evidence of either his existance or him going directly to heaven.

[C-Nub]

I'm new around here, so forgive me if I'm somehow violating the rules by pointing this out, but a question like this is one of almost staggering ignorance, and I think that should be addressed as part of the reply;

First off, if any Non-christian religion believed in any way, shape or form that they had a gravesite for Christ, it would not be a closely guarded secret. You would not need to ask. This isn't to say that they would be right or wrong for doing so, just that any religion tends to advertise the sorts of things that make it look as if they have a valid point or that competing churches don't.

But more importantly, and this has already been addressed, how can one ask a question when they are obviously completely unable to address the logical counter-questions that arise. It's staggering to me that Christians are somehow comfortable asking the sorts of questions that they themselves can provide no satisfactory answer for. This reminds me of something my grandfather used to say; "Black pots shouldn't throw stones in glass houses." Grandpa suffered head trauma in Korea.

The point is, though, that no one smart enough to actually phrase the question and post it would expect to get any kind of valid answer, so why bother? What's the goal?

Once again, I apologize if I'm stepping outside the rules.

[Fallibleone]

I think you raise a good point. Something of such importance would have been bellowed from the rooftops. So yes, I would echo your question - what is the purpose of the OP?

[carolineislands]

I don't believe the OP is a Christian... just fyi.

And you do raise a good point that if anyone claimed to have the tomb or body of Jesus it would be highly publicized - such as the shroud of Turin. Perhaps the question posed in the OP was meant to lead us into another discussion? Or maybe stir up some conflict between Christians and Jews?

So, what was the purpose of this question?

[Pazuzu bin Hanbi]

Truth_Teller follows Islâm, hence my comment about someone claiming himself a ‘prophet’ long after Muhammad.

[Truth_Teller]

I don’t think they care. Do you care about Mirza Ghulam Ahmad’s grave?

I think you didn´t understand the question - it was not whether they "care for it or not" but "whether they have any proof/evidence". That´s all I asked!

And yes, what do you mean by the latter question???

I don't have any evidence that Jesus even EXISTED , much less that he was killed on a cross, or did not be killed on the cross.

Do you have any evidence he existed? Do you have any evidence he was 'taken directly to heaven'?

And no, I won't accept the sayings of the Koran as evidence of either his existance or him going directly to heaven.

I didn´t ask "whether he existed or not". The question is for religionists (Jews to be precise). If you are so confused about him having existed or not then you may not enter the thread again (just an advice though).

By the way, I haven´t claimed that he went directly to heavens rather just asked a simple question.

Perhaps the question posed in the OP was meant to lead us into another discussion? Or maybe stir up some conflict between Christians and Jews?

Not really. Why would my question stir up a conflict between Christians and Jews? Are the two communities long lost brothers or what? Myself being a Muslim I can ask this question to any Jew. It´s not only Christians and Jews who can debate about Jesus (peace be upon him). Remember that even Muslims consider him a prophet.

[Goat]

I don’t think they care. Do you care about Mirza Ghulam Ahmad’s grave?

I think you didn´t understand the question - it was not whether they "care for it or not" but "whether they have any proof/evidence". That´s all I asked!

And yes, what do you mean by the latter question???

I don't have any evidence that Jesus even EXISTED , much less that he was killed on a cross, or did not be killed on the cross.

Do you have any evidence he existed? Do you have any evidence he was 'taken directly to heaven'?

And no, I won't accept the sayings of the Koran as evidence of either his existance or him going directly to heaven.

I didn´t ask "whether he existed or not". The question is for religionists (Jews to be precise). If you are so confused about him having existed or not then you may not enter the thread again (just an advice though).

By the way, I haven´t claimed that he went directly to heavens rather just asked a simple question.

Perhaps the question posed in the OP was meant to lead us into another discussion? Or maybe stir up some conflict between Christians and Jews?

Not really. Why would my question stir up a conflict between Christians and Jews? Are the two communities long lost brothers or what? Myself being a Muslim I can ask this question to any Jew. It´s not only Christians and Jews who can debate about Jesus (peace be upon him). Remember that even Muslims consider him a prophet.

If you can't prove someone existed, how can you prove they got executed? I will point out that crucifiction was a very common form of execution during that time period, and thousands of people were executed by the Romans in Jerusalem. That is not a big deal at all.

What is the big deal is the supernatural claim of the resurrection, or 'ascending directly to heaven'. Don't see evidence of either.

[Truth_Teller]

If you can't prove someone existed, how can you prove they got executed?

Prove to me that Thomas Edison ever existed and he isn´t a fictious character???

What is the big deal is the supernatural claim of the resurrection, or 'ascending directly to heaven'. Don't see evidence of either.

Again, ascension is not the point of the thread since I for once didn´t claim that he ascended into Heavens.