Flat Earth

[achilles12604]

I am posting a question but as I am almost 100% sure this thread will erupt in mudslinging, I am starting it out where it will be moved later anyway.

Scrotum asserted that the bible contains the error that the earth is flat and held up by pillars.



Please show me where this is written.

[Goat]

I am posting a question but as I am almost 100% sure this thread will erupt in mudslinging, I am starting it out where it will be moved later anyway.

Scrotum asserted that the bible contains the error that the earth is flat and held up by pillars.



Please show me where this is written.

If you read genesis, the description about the firmament is a mirror of the Babylonian cosmology.. which hold that to be true.

Also, see Job 9:6.

also 1 samual 2:8

"He raises the poor from the dust, He lifts the needy from the ash heap To make them sit with nobles, And inherit a seat of honor; For the pillars of the earth are the LORD'S, And He set the world on them.

[Onorc]

"The devil took him up into an exceedingly high mountain, and showed him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them."
- Matthew 4:8

The only way Jesus could have seen the entire world off of this mountain is if the world was flat. No matter how high the mountain it would be impossible to see all of a sphere.

[seventil]

"The devil took him up into an exceedingly high mountain, and showed him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them."
- Matthew 4:8

The only way Jesus could have seen the entire world off of this mountain is if the world was flat. No matter how high the mountain it would be impossible to see all of a sphere.

It's highly likely that this passage is metaphorical, meaning that Jesus didn't physically "see" all the kingdoms of the world, but a realization that with His power, he could do anything on the world, and rule it.

There are many different ideas of what this meant, but it's generally accepted by Biblical scholars that this isn't a literal verse. (I can reference if needbe)

[Onorc]

"The devil took him up into an exceedingly high mountain, and showed him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them."
- Matthew 4:8

The only way Jesus could have seen the entire world off of this mountain is if the world was flat. No matter how high the mountain it would be impossible to see all of a sphere.

It's highly likely that this passage is metaphorical, meaning that Jesus didn't physically "see" all the kingdoms of the world, but a realization that with His power, he could do anything on the world, and rule it.

There are many different ideas of what this meant, but it's generally accepted by Biblical scholars that this isn't a literal verse. (I can reference if needbe)

No need to reference I have read many different opinions on this verse along with "I saw a tree in the midst of the earth, and the height thereof was great.
The tree grew, and the height thereof reached unto heaven, and the sight thereof to the end of all the earth." Daniel 4:10-11. It is up to the reader to decide their interpretation in my opinion on these two verses. It very well could be a metaphor, but also could be a literal meaning.

[Scrotum]

Can any of you prove the earth is not flat?

[Zzyzx]

Can any of you prove the earth is not flat?

I can show evidence that some would consider "proof".

1. The shadow of the Earth on the moon during a lunar eclipse is curved.
2. A ship moving toward the horizon disappears from view "hull first", or "bottom up" and the mast is the last thing seen.
3. Photographs taken from high altitude or from space show what appears to be a spherical body.
4. The progression of daylight vs. darkness on the globe suggests a spherical body.
5. Circumnavigation by ship, aircraft and spacecraft occur as expected on a sphere.
6. Satellite positioning and orbital paths are consistent with sphericity.
7. Gravitational effects of the earth upon other bodies indicate a body a mass consistent with a sphere having a diameter of ~7900 miles and specific gravity of 5.5.

Then there are some technical “proofs”.

[Scrotum]

1. The shadow of the Earth on the moon during a lunar eclipse is curved.

I´ve not seen a lunar eclipse, and i doubt you have, its not visible from the U.S, so this is second hand "information", perhaps if you have some OWN evidence you can use it.

2. A ship moving toward the horizon disappears from view "hull first", or "bottom up" and the mast is the last thing seen.

Eh, of course it disappears, it goes over. Cheezes. Is that proof for "roundworld"?

3. Photographs taken from high altitude or from space show what appears to be a spherical body.

Space pictures are false propaganda from the Communists, not valid. Communist are atheists.

4. The progression of daylight vs. darkness on the globe suggests a spherical body.

No it doesn´t
.

5. Circumnavigation by ship, aircraft and spacecraft occur as expected on a sphere.

False Propaganda, to trick the ignorant public, Biker and Twobitsmedia can confirm that most peopel are deluded by ideas such as evolution and gravity, this is no different.

6. Satellite positioning and orbital paths are consistent with sphericity.

Satellite = Communist propaganda.

7. Gravitational effects of the earth upon other bodies indicate a body a mass consistent with a sphere having a diameter of ~7900 miles and specific gravity of 5.5.

Dont ty to be technical with that science bull.

Then there are some technical “proofs”.

Like what, measuring "the force"? You live in a StarWars(tm) world man. I will join Biker and Twobitsmedia, God is real, and so is the Bible, and the Bible says the world is flat, and you cant prove its not, so....

[achilles12604]

1. The shadow of the Earth on the moon during a lunar eclipse is curved.

I´ve not seen a lunar eclipse, and i doubt you have, its not visible from the U.S, so this is second hand "information", perhaps if you have some OWN evidence you can use it.

2. A ship moving toward the horizon disappears from view "hull first", or "bottom up" and the mast is the last thing seen.

Eh, of course it disappears, it goes over. Cheezes. Is that proof for "roundworld"?

3. Photographs taken from high altitude or from space show what appears to be a spherical body.

Space pictures are false propaganda from the Communists, not valid. Communist are atheists.

4. The progression of daylight vs. darkness on the globe suggests a spherical body.

No it doesn´t
.

5. Circumnavigation by ship, aircraft and spacecraft occur as expected on a sphere.

False Propaganda, to trick the ignorant public, Biker and Twobitsmedia can confirm that most peopel are deluded by ideas such as evolution and gravity, this is no different.

6. Satellite positioning and orbital paths are consistent with sphericity.

Satellite = Communist propaganda.

7. Gravitational effects of the earth upon other bodies indicate a body a mass consistent with a sphere having a diameter of ~7900 miles and specific gravity of 5.5.

Dont ty to be technical with that science bull.

Then there are some technical “proofs”.

Like what, measuring "the force"? You live in a StarWars(tm) world man. I will join Biker and Twobitsmedia, God is real, and so is the Bible, and the Bible says the world is flat, and you cant prove its not, so....

Scrotum, if you can not refrain from citing and insulting other members on this thread, I will gladly trash it. I highly doubt that twobits, and Biker disbelieve gravity exists and the more likely situation is that you are hammering on this point to intentionally harass and annoy Twobits.

I remind you that harassment of other debaters is against the rules and can lead to the deletion of your account.

If you wish to address the OP then feel free. Please refrain from intentionally annoying and harassing other debaters.

[Goat]

1. The shadow of the Earth on the moon during a lunar eclipse is curved.

I´ve not seen a lunar eclipse, and i doubt you have, its not visible from the U.S, so this is second hand "information", perhaps if you have some OWN evidence you can use it.

2. A ship moving toward the horizon disappears from view "hull first", or "bottom up" and the mast is the last thing seen.

Eh, of course it disappears, it goes over. Cheezes. Is that proof for "roundworld"?

3. Photographs taken from high altitude or from space show what appears to be a spherical body.

Space pictures are false propaganda from the Communists, not valid. Communist are atheists.

4. The progression of daylight vs. darkness on the globe suggests a spherical body.

No it doesn´t
.

5. Circumnavigation by ship, aircraft and spacecraft occur as expected on a sphere.

False Propaganda, to trick the ignorant public, Biker and Twobitsmedia can confirm that most peopel are deluded by ideas such as evolution and gravity, this is no different.

6. Satellite positioning and orbital paths are consistent with sphericity.

Satellite = Communist propaganda.

7. Gravitational effects of the earth upon other bodies indicate a body a mass consistent with a sphere having a diameter of ~7900 miles and specific gravity of 5.5.

Dont ty to be technical with that science bull.

Then there are some technical “proofs”.

Like what, measuring "the force"? You live in a StarWars(tm) world man. I will join Biker and Twobitsmedia, God is real, and so is the Bible, and the Bible says the world is flat, and you cant prove its not, so....

Lunar eclipses are fairly regular. I have seen several partial ones, and one total one. Solar eclipses are much more rare.

And, it isn't 'science bull'. It is pretty straight forward, actually.