Why don't most Muslims engage in Jihad?

Ranmoth · Post by **Ranmoth** » Fri Jun 10, 2005 4:54 pm

To the best of my knowledge, it says in the Koran(or however you want to spell it) that infidels should be put to the sword. However, my knowledge of it ends just about there, so I'm just asking an honest question: Why don't most Muslims go around killing non-Muslims? Or, at the very least, those that refuse to convert once they're tought about it? After all, Muhammed himself waged holy wars.

bernee51 · Post by **bernee51** » Mon Jun 27, 2005 1:10 am

AlAyeti wrote:
Using logic, the same would apply to a one year old or a two year old on up. They have "potential" too. But it depends on whose position is used to define potential.

You have yet to demonstrate an understanding of logic and that hasn't changed any with this comment of yours.

AlAyeti wrote: If you decide you don't really want them, then, does the same logic apply to a person in the uterus?

Have you leaft some words out of this?

AlAyeti wrote: You, were never going to be anyone else but you, from the moment of conception. That is a fact. Please use logic and rethink your stand on abortion.

I am using logic and the chioce is for the individual to make - not you or me.

AlAyeti · Post by **AlAyeti** » Mon Jun 27, 2005 2:55 am

Bernee: "I am using logic and the chioce is for the individual to make - not you or me."

The mind that formed the words in that sentence was formed in the womb.

So much for logic being anything but a word spelled correctly by the author of that sentence.

"Life begins at conception."

That is a logical and empirical statement. Bernee, you can prove that with a mirror.

And to weave this rabbit trail on topic, it is like someone still using the label of "The religion of peace" and applying it to the religion that implements Jihad somehow defined as "Holy" on innocent people by means of murdering them.

Logically you cannot.

bernee51 · Post by **bernee51** » Mon Jun 27, 2005 3:24 am

AlAyeti wrote: The mind that formed the words in that sentence was formed in the womb.

"Life begins at conception."

This is all way off topic Al...better suited to its own thread. But in answer...no to both...my nmind was not formed in the womb and life (as a human being) does not commence at conception.

AlAyeti wrote: That is a logical and empirical statement.

It is your opinion

AlAyeti wrote: And to weave this rabbit trail on topic,...

Fundamentalism, no matter which brand, 'yours' or 'theirs' is a mill stone around the neck of humanity dragging to the depths of intolerance and ignorance.

Fortunately I believe the current state of affairs are the death throes of belief systems well past their use by date.

Human identity is more sacred than religious identity

AlAyeti · Post by **AlAyeti** » Mon Jun 27, 2005 2:23 pm

Bernee: "Fortunately I believe the current state of affairs are the death throes of belief systems well past their use by date."

That is a statement from a faith-based belief.

The world is going along exactly as the Bible predicted. Again.

Sodom is back and good is called evil and evil is called a civil right.

You are kicking at the goads that's all.

bernee51 · Post by **bernee51** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 1:25 am

AlAyeti wrote:
You are kicking at the goads that's all.

we that meant to be "kicking at the gonads"?

AlAyeti · Post by **AlAyeti** » Thu Jun 30, 2005 4:06 am

Bernee: "So is it (USA) really "The Great Satan" as your 'enemies' would have it."

From the perspectives of the demons who inhabit men like Osama Bin Laden, I would have to agree with them somewhat. (There are more evil nations than America I think.) They were right about Jesus being the Son of God and the judgment they are awaiting, and I know that God acn't be happy with secular America.

I reject satanism, though I know it is real. I choose to embrace Jesus and peace.

Looking at what secular America has done over the years, and now is embracing in the "marriage" of homosexuals, after years of legalized murder of unborn children, I can only expect what is fairly coming to us.

The world is heading to the conclusion that the Bible predicted.

But, if all of the bad stuff is true, so is the good stuff!

AlAyeti · Post by **AlAyeti** » Thu Jun 30, 2005 4:31 am

bernee51 wrote:

A question for you...would you support or do you believe that the moral code as you claim is set out in the bible or through/by Jesus should be the 'laws of the land"?

AlAyeti wrote:
No.

Bernee: "This is not borne out by your posts on abortion, homosexuality et al. You asnwer is, as Steen would put it, 'bearing false witness"

You fail to see my freedom of thought because you are closed-minded to any views but your own. This is the norm of the skeptic-atheist-freethinker crowd. And I mean crowd. I have not once told you to change what you have freely chosen to do amnd to believe. That is not what you do by arguing your case. You bear false witness about this being sport do you not? Why not cheer me in my peaceful lifestyle. Why rail on and on about the falsity of the Bible? It is the fulcrum of our world and you cannot convince me otherwise. Current events show me observable facst about the Bible. I mean you absolutely no harm. But observable scientific facts are on my side in both subjects you mentioned, I'll give you the right to your Biblical opinion.

Steen, cannot face me Biblically. I am stating my views and know full well that God will judge what I say and why and how. Jesus would not support abortion for convenience. Jesus was also Torah observant Jew.

Jesus is the creator, according to the Greek usage of "logos," attributed to the author of the Gospel of John.

Anatomy, physiology, biology, the Bible, all see the human body the same. "My" views of sexuality and the worth of human life do not paint me as bigoted, but just the opposite. I studied with an open mind and have let facts guide my decisions.

truth · Post by **truth** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 11:26 am

let me make one thing clear Jihad is NOT HOLY war.......it simply means to struggle in the way of Allah and succeed.

1-Jihad can be for a mother to raise her children properly
2-it can be for the head of a family to earn money through a proper job
3-in a world where temptatioons are all around it can be a Great jihad to live in utmost piety and humbleness
so on and so forth...

Also i would like to clear the misconception about Hazrat Muhammad that he spread God's Final word through the sword.That is utter rubbish.If u have doubts then read the koran with the translation from yusuf ali and all will be clear.Normally in sites we see ppl quoting text from the Koran....it is not simply done that way....Koran tells us a story abt all the Prophets from Adam and eve,to Joseph,Daviv,Noah,Moses, Jesus and Our beloved Muhammad.To simply quote one line and leave the next completly changes the meaning.

Moslim Jihad is simply diverse from what the media has represented to us.The palestinian,the afghans,kashmiris are all fighting for their basic survival.They are not fighting in the name of Allah.To fight in Allahs name is to spread The love He told us.The humbleness He taught us.
All that is happening all over the world is merely a power struggle which has been veiled to give it the name Jihad.....

spiritletter · Post by **spiritletter** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 3:01 pm

Probably the same reason most Christians don't want to kill muslims.