Is There Really a Hell?

[Richard Aberdeen]

According to astrophysicist Neil DeGrasse Tyson, there is a certain type of black hole located within dark voids in the universe, where there is no light for many light years in every direction. This type of black hole, according to Tyson, contains an inner "sea of fire", left over from the stars it long ago consumed. According to NASA, the Encyclopedia Britannica and the late Stephen Hawking, among many other scientists, a black hole is a "bottomless pit" that theoretically digs forever.

The Bible says that hell is located in "outer darkness" Matthew 8:12 and is a "bottomless pit" Revelation 9:11, containing a "lake of fire" Revelation 20:14. Many people long questioned how something containing a lake of fire could be located in outer darkness and even more difficult to believe, be a bottomless pit, from which no one can escape. Now we know. Jesus says in Luke 16:26, that no human can pass from heaven to hades or from hades to heaven. Those who mock the Bible invariably, eventually end up eating crow. . .or worse.

Many question whether a loving God would cast someone forever into hell. Such folks rarely pause to consider what our sins cost God, in the sacrifice of his only begotten son. We hear reports of parents weeping at the bedside of their child who has cancer or has been in a horrific accident, crying "if only I could take my child's place!" We have no idea how God must have felt when his only son was nailed to a Roman cross and, we likely never will even begin to grasp what our sins cost God Almighty.

There is great reward for accepting forgiveness for our sins from Jesus. And there is a great penalty for refusing to do so.

[Capbook]

I think you have to settle your issue with God Himself; He was the one who commanded Ezekiel to tell that to the ruler of Tyre.

No, I think it is you that have an issue against God's word OneJack, The mentioned word is "cherub" the angelic being, you don't agree, you insist "cherub' as human.

The issue is that those narratives were God's description to the ruler of Tyre, which you seem to divert to someone else in the spirit realm. Who, then, is going against God's description to the ruler of Tyre?

Ok, can you define what "cherub" means OneJack?
That's what described the ruler of Tyre.

What for, Capbook? Focus yourself only to what is essential to your salvation.

OneJack, the title of the thread is about "Is There Really a Hell," about salvation is on another thread, why can't you define the word "cherub?"

[Richard Aberdeen]

[Replying to Mr E in post #2]

It would be helpful to humanity if conservative Christians actually believed what Jesus states in Luke 4 as you quoted, instead of voting for buffoons and liars who promote an agenda opposite of what Jesus says.

[Richard Aberdeen]

[Replying to placebofactor in post #3]

It would be helpful if conservative Christians actually believed what the Bible says, instead of supporting a wicked president who wants his own image and name plastered over everything he can possibly imagine, while erecting statues to himself, including a proposed giant gold statue to be prominently placed in his presidential library.

As you correctly point out. just because God grants power to whom he wills, doesn't mean that everyone in power is either a good leader or representative of what God wants. The Chronicles are filled with kings who mostly do what is evil in the sight of the Lord, while fewer actually do what is right in the sight of the Lord.

[Richard Aberdeen]

[Replying to tam in post #10]

When the Bible and modern science agrees, it is utterly foolish to disagree.

Many scientists today believe the universe will collapse back in on itself and out will come a new universe. According to the Bible, the heavens will one day roll back like a scroll and, there will be a new heavens and a new earth.

As noted, it is utterly foolish to disagree when both the Bible and modern science agrees.

[Mr E]

[Replying to Richard Aberdeen in post #62]

It would be helpful to humanity if conservative Christians actually believed what Jesus states in Luke 4 as you quoted, instead of voting for buffoons and liars who promote an agenda opposite of what Jesus says.

What does your TDS have anything to do with anything I posted? Seek help. Therapy. Medication. Something.

You just blurted out your political frustration in a thread that has nothing to do with politics. Go punch a pillow or hunker down with a blankie, but please keep it to yourself.

[OneJack]

No, I think it is you that have an issue against God's word OneJack, The mentioned word is "cherub" the angelic being, you don't agree, you insist "cherub' as human.

The issue is that those narratives were God's description to the ruler of Tyre, which you seem to divert to someone else in the spirit realm. Who, then, is going against God's description to the ruler of Tyre?

Ok, can you define what "cherub" means OneJack?
That's what described the ruler of Tyre.

What for, Capbook? Focus yourself only to what is essential to your salvation.

OneJack, the title of the thread is about "Is There Really a Hell," about salvation is on another thread, why can't you define the word "cherub?"

Cherub is not even essential to the subject matter, Capbook. Deal with the subject matter.

[Capbook]

The issue is that those narratives were God's description to the ruler of Tyre, which you seem to divert to someone else in the spirit realm. Who, then, is going against God's description to the ruler of Tyre?

Ok, can you define what "cherub" means OneJack?
That's what described the ruler of Tyre.

What for, Capbook? Focus yourself only to what is essential to your salvation.

OneJack, the title of the thread is about "Is There Really a Hell," about salvation is on another thread, why can't you define the word "cherub?"

Cherub is not even essential to the subject matter, Capbook. Deal with the subject matter.

OneJack, my point is not against your interpretation, it even support your point that spirits will suffer "eternal punishment" means eternal death, the second death, not the eternal punishing.
I don't know why afraid to define "cherub."

[tam]

Peace to you,

[Replying to tam in post #10]

When the Bible and modern science agrees, it is utterly foolish to disagree.

Many scientists today believe the universe will collapse back in on itself and out will come a new universe. According to the Bible, the heavens will one day roll back like a scroll and, there will be a new heavens and a new earth.

As noted, it is utterly foolish to disagree when both the Bible and modern science agrees.

Richard, what does this have to do with hell? Or the various words translated as 'hell' which is inaccurate?

[OneJack]

Ok, can you define what "cherub" means OneJack?
That's what described the ruler of Tyre.

What for, Capbook? Focus yourself only to what is essential to your salvation.

OneJack, the title of the thread is about "Is There Really a Hell," about salvation is on another thread, why can't you define the word "cherub?"

Cherub is not even essential to the subject matter, Capbook. Deal with the subject matter.

OneJack, my point is not against your interpretation, it even support your point that spirits will suffer "eternal punishment" means eternal death, the second death, not the eternal punishing.
I don't know why afraid to define "cherub."

The ruler of Tyre was the cherub addressed by God in Ezekiel 28, wasn’t he?

[Capbook]

What for, Capbook? Focus yourself only to what is essential to your salvation.

OneJack, the title of the thread is about "Is There Really a Hell," about salvation is on another thread, why can't you define the word "cherub?"

Cherub is not even essential to the subject matter, Capbook. Deal with the subject matter.

OneJack, my point is not against your interpretation, it even support your point that spirits will suffer "eternal punishment" means eternal death, the second death, not the eternal punishing.
I don't know why afraid to define "cherub."

The ruler of Tyre was the cherub addressed by God in Ezekiel 28, wasn’t he?

Before I answer, care enough to define what "cherub" means OneJack?