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Christians: how will you know the messiah when he arrives?

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Christians:

How will you know who the Messiah is? How will you know who is the real one and who isn't?

Like if some guy claimed to be Jesus how will you know if he is or isn't?

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Peace to you,

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If you were in the same country as I am, I could e-transfer. I'm guessing you are not in Canada though.
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Avoice wrote: Fri Jun 12, 2026 4:06 pm Does what Jesus said even matter to you?
Yes.
Avoice wrote: Fri Jun 12, 2026 4:06 pmDo you obey him?
If I witness concerning Myself, My witness is not true;
John 5:31
Avoice wrote: Fri Jun 12, 2026 4:06 pmThese are some of Jesus' commandments. YOU HAVE TO KEEP THEM.
If I do what Jesus said, it is because I want to do so, not because I have to do so.
Avoice wrote: Fri Jun 12, 2026 4:06 pmJESUS ONLY DIED FOR TRANSGRESSIONS MADE UNDER THE OLD COVENANT. NOT the new one.
Please tell why do you think so, and why your words would matter more than what Jesus said?

Jesus gave his disciples right to forgive sins. It is possible without any death as it was also before Jesus died.

The scribes and the Pharisees began to reason, saying, "Who is this that speaks blasphemies? Who can forgive sins, but God alone?" But Jesus, perceiving their thoughts, answered them, "Why are you reasoning so in your hearts? Which is easier to say, 'Your sins are forgiven you;' or to say, 'Arise and walk?' But that you may know that the Son of Man has authority on earth to forgive sins" (he said to the paralyzed man), "I tell you, arise, and take up your cot, and go to your house." Immediately he rose up before them, and took up that which he was laying on, and departed to his house, glorifying God.
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If you forgive anyone’s sins, they have been forgiven them. If you retain anyone’s sins, they have been retained.”
John 20:23
Avoice wrote: Fri Jun 12, 2026 4:06 pmYou see, the laws which Christians say they don't have to keep are EASY to keep.
Please tell what laws are you talking about?
Avoice wrote: Fri Jun 12, 2026 4:06 pmIT SAYS HE ONLY FORGIVES THE TRANSGRESSIONS THAT ARE IN THE FIRST COVENANT.
Please tell, where Jesus says so?
Avoice wrote: Fri Jun 12, 2026 4:06 pmDo you realize the mess you are in?
It seems to me that you have made a mess and now try to stick it to others.
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Let me make sure I hear you correctly. You said:

"If I do what Jesus said, it is because I want to do so, not because I have to do so"

"If I do what Jesus said..". If, huh? And you are the boss. You decide.. hmmm

What about the things you have to do? If you HAVE to do them then it doesn't matter how you feel about doing it. Or is there nothing that Jesus has final say on?

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Avoice wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2026 7:27 am ...What about the things you have to do?
What do you mean with things I "have to do"?
Avoice wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2026 7:27 amIf you HAVE to do them then it doesn't matter how you feel about doing it. Or is there nothing that Jesus has final say on?
I think ultimately every person decides himself what he will do.

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Every person decides what he will do? What?

God has told us what he will do. I am amazed at your answer.

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Avoice wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2026 11:49 pm Every person decides what he will do?
I meant, all people decide what they them self will do. Final say of what any human does comes from himself in all cases, because all humans decide it by themselves, what they choose to do. Some may choose to obey someone else, but even that is then their own choice.
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