The Shortest Way To The Truth
There are two important things about knowing God and the way to the salvation of our souls that we have to consider to keep ourselves away from deceptions, to wit:
1. Neither the bible nor John, Luke, Matthew, Paul, and the rest of the apostles is God.
2. Jesus is Immanuel, who is always beside us all the time. He is in a 24/7 watch mode for us who will come to Him and call on Him for the salvation of our souls.
Why do we have to be so obsessed with biblical accounts that we treat them as if they were the only source of truth about God and the salvation of our souls when Jesus is with us always, though we do not see Him yet? He can surely bring us to the truth if we come to Him and call on Him in the right way. Jesus, real and forever living God, is the only way to the truth about God and our salvation.
The Shortest Way To The Truth
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Re: The Shortest Way To The Truth
Post #321FALSE I have NEVER said that the Lord Jesus has a demonic spirit. You will never find me saying such a thing ( Quote me verbatim if you contend that, pointing to the specific post number ).
If I'm wrong, don't worry, the real Jesus (who is not far from any of us) will correct me (he doesn't need you to do that for him). Indeed it would be best you leave it to God Almighty to change my mind because everything you say convinces me more and more that you and your family are victims of a demon masquerading as "Jesus".That said, I am of the opinion ( I believe strongly based on your testimony) that the spirit you communicated with was NOT the "Lord Jesus" but really a demon impersonating Jesus (or possibly you were communicating with the deceptive spirit Commander in Chief, Satan the Devil himself). So everything I have said I've said about the "fake" demon "Jesus impersonator" that was teaching you and your family for years. Yes that is my opinion, an opinion about your encounter is all anyone can have because we only have your testimony, so we will have to come to a conclusion based on that testimony until new information presents itself.
JW2 CORINTHIANS 11:14
For such men are false apostles, deceitful workers, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ.+ 14 And no wonder, for Satan himself keeps disguising himself as an angel of light
"Then if anyone says to you, 'Look, here is the Christ!' or 'There he is!' do not believe it. For false messiahs and false prophets will arise and perform great signs and wonders to lead astray, if possible, even the elect." - JESUS CHRIST
PARANORMAL ENCOUNTERS
How to identify the work of "deceptive spirits"?
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 5#p1187545
Reasons to conclude Onejack's encounter was with a demon/satan and not Jesus
viewtopic.php?p=1187526#p1187526
Should all encounters with spirits claiming to be Christ be BELIEVED?
viewtopic.php?p=1187526#p1187526
How does Satan manipulate innocent people into believing they are having supernatural encounters with Jesus Christ
viewtopic.php?p=1187545#p1187545
INDEX: More bible based ANSWERS
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 81#p826681
"For if we live, we live to Jehovah, and if we die, we die to Jehovah. So both if we live and if we die, we belong to Jehovah" - Romans 14:8
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 81#p826681
"For if we live, we live to Jehovah, and if we die, we die to Jehovah. So both if we live and if we die, we belong to Jehovah" - Romans 14:8
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Re: The Shortest Way To The Truth
Post #322Didn't I tell you that the Lord Jesus Christ came into our lives in 2001? Yet, you keep on telling me that a demon spirit [masquerading as Jesus] victimized us.JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Mon Jun 08, 2026 9:33 amFALSE I have NEVER said that the Lord Jesus has a demonic spirit. You will never find me saying such a thing ( Quote me verbatim if you contend that, pointing to the specific post number ).
If I'm wrong, don't worry, the real Jesus (who is not far from any of us) will correct me (he doesn't need you to do that for him). Indeed it would be best you leave it to God Almighty to change my mind because everything you say convinces me more and more that you and your family are victims of a demon masquerading as "Jesus".That said, I am of the opinion ( I believe strongly based on your testimony) that the spirit you communicated with was NOT the "Lord Jesus" but really a demon impersonating Jesus (or possibly you were communicating with the deceptive spirit Commander in Chief, Satan the Devil himself). So everything I have said I've said about the "fake" demon "Jesus impersonator" that was teaching you and your family for years. Yes that is my opinion, an opinion about your encounter is all anyone can have because we only have your testimony, so we will have to come to a conclusion based on that testimony until new information presents itself.
JW2 CORINTHIANS 11:14
For such men are false apostles, deceitful workers, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ.+ 14 And no wonder, for Satan himself keeps disguising himself as an angel of light
"Then if anyone says to you, 'Look, here is the Christ!' or 'There he is!' do not believe it. For false messiahs and false prophets will arise and perform great signs and wonders to lead astray, if possible, even the elect." - JESUS CHRIST
PARANORMAL ENCOUNTERSHow to identify the work of "deceptive spirits"?
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 5#p1187545
Reasons to conclude Onejack's encounter was with a demon/satan and not Jesus
viewtopic.php?p=1187526#p1187526
Should all encounters with spirits claiming to be Christ be BELIEVED?
viewtopic.php?p=1187526#p1187526
How does Satan manipulate innocent people into believing they are having supernatural encounters with Jesus Christ
viewtopic.php?p=1187545#p1187545
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Re: The Shortest Way To The Truth
Post #323OneJack, that is called subjective evidence, from experience, opinion, and etc as unverifiable statements.OneJack wrote: ↑Mon Jun 08, 2026 9:01 pmDidn't I tell you that the Lord Jesus Christ came into our lives in 2001? Yet, you keep on telling me that a demon spirit [masquerading as Jesus] victimized us.JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Mon Jun 08, 2026 9:33 amFALSE I have NEVER said that the Lord Jesus has a demonic spirit. You will never find me saying such a thing ( Quote me verbatim if you contend that, pointing to the specific post number ).
If I'm wrong, don't worry, the real Jesus (who is not far from any of us) will correct me (he doesn't need you to do that for him). Indeed it would be best you leave it to God Almighty to change my mind because everything you say convinces me more and more that you and your family are victims of a demon masquerading as "Jesus".That said, I am of the opinion ( I believe strongly based on your testimony) that the spirit you communicated with was NOT the "Lord Jesus" but really a demon impersonating Jesus (or possibly you were communicating with the deceptive spirit Commander in Chief, Satan the Devil himself). So everything I have said I've said about the "fake" demon "Jesus impersonator" that was teaching you and your family for years. Yes that is my opinion, an opinion about your encounter is all anyone can have because we only have your testimony, so we will have to come to a conclusion based on that testimony until new information presents itself.
JW2 CORINTHIANS 11:14
For such men are false apostles, deceitful workers, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ.+ 14 And no wonder, for Satan himself keeps disguising himself as an angel of light
"Then if anyone says to you, 'Look, here is the Christ!' or 'There he is!' do not believe it. For false messiahs and false prophets will arise and perform great signs and wonders to lead astray, if possible, even the elect." - JESUS CHRIST
PARANORMAL ENCOUNTERSHow to identify the work of "deceptive spirits"?
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 5#p1187545
Reasons to conclude Onejack's encounter was with a demon/satan and not Jesus
viewtopic.php?p=1187526#p1187526
Should all encounters with spirits claiming to be Christ be BELIEVED?
viewtopic.php?p=1187526#p1187526
How does Satan manipulate innocent people into believing they are having supernatural encounters with Jesus Christ
viewtopic.php?p=1187545#p1187545
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Re: The Shortest Way To The Truth
Post #324Didn't I tell you that I don't believe it was the Lord Jesus Christ?OneJack wrote: ↑Mon Jun 08, 2026 9:01 pmDidn't I tell you that the Lord Jesus Christ came into our lives in 2001?JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Mon Jun 08, 2026 9:33 amFALSE I have NEVER said that the Lord Jesus has a demonic spirit. You will never find me saying such a thing ( Quote me verbatim if you contend that, pointing to the specific post number ).
If I'm wrong, don't worry, the real Jesus (who is not far from any of us) will correct me (he doesn't need you to do that for him). Indeed it would be best you leave it to God Almighty to change my mind because everything you say convinces me more and more that you and your family are victims of a demon masquerading as "Jesus".That said, I am of the opinion ( I believe strongly based on your testimony) that the spirit you communicated with was NOT the "Lord Jesus" but really a demon impersonating Jesus (or possibly you were communicating with the deceptive spirit Commander in Chief, Satan the Devil himself). So everything I have said I've said about the "fake" demon "Jesus impersonator" that was teaching you and your family for years. Yes that is my opinion, an opinion about your encounter is all anyone can have because we only have your testimony, so we will have to come to a conclusion based on that testimony until new information presents itself.
JW2 CORINTHIANS 11:14
For such men are false apostles, deceitful workers, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ.+ 14 And no wonder, for Satan himself keeps disguising himself as an angel of light
"Then if anyone says to you, 'Look, here is the Christ!' or 'There he is!' do not believe it. For false messiahs and false prophets will arise and perform great signs and wonders to lead astray, if possible, even the elect." - JESUS CHRIST
PARANORMAL ENCOUNTERSHow to identify the work of "deceptive spirits"?
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 5#p1187545
Reasons to conclude Onejack's encounter was with a demon/satan and not Jesus
viewtopic.php?p=1187526#p1187526
Should all encounters with spirits claiming to be Christ be BELIEVED?
viewtopic.php?p=1187526#p1187526
How does Satan manipulate innocent people into believing they are having supernatural encounters with Jesus Christ
viewtopic.php?p=1187545#p1187545
I keep telling you that because (in my opinion) a demon spirit [masquerading as Jesus] victimized you.
But don't worry, if I am mistaken I'm sure the REAL Lord Jesus (who is not far off from any of us) will set me straight personally , you don't have to respond, you've shared your message and done your best, I'm just unconvinced it was the REAL Jesus you spoke to. So, I will throw your testimony in the trash, not because I believe you didn't have a real paranormal experience (I'm sure you did) or that you are lying (I'm confident you are telling the truth about what you experienced), but because in my opinion (yes it is just my opinion) you are just mistaken as to WHO you were really talking to (see illustration above which illustrates MY OPINION)
INDEX: More bible based ANSWERS
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 81#p826681
"For if we live, we live to Jehovah, and if we die, we die to Jehovah. So both if we live and if we die, we belong to Jehovah" - Romans 14:8
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 81#p826681
"For if we live, we live to Jehovah, and if we die, we die to Jehovah. So both if we live and if we die, we belong to Jehovah" - Romans 14:8
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Re: The Shortest Way To The Truth
Post #325My job is finished.JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Tue Jun 09, 2026 3:20 amDidn't I tell you that I don't believe it was the Lord Jesus Christ?OneJack wrote: ↑Mon Jun 08, 2026 9:01 pmDidn't I tell you that the Lord Jesus Christ came into our lives in 2001?JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Mon Jun 08, 2026 9:33 amFALSE I have NEVER said that the Lord Jesus has a demonic spirit. You will never find me saying such a thing ( Quote me verbatim if you contend that, pointing to the specific post number ).
If I'm wrong, don't worry, the real Jesus (who is not far from any of us) will correct me (he doesn't need you to do that for him). Indeed it would be best you leave it to God Almighty to change my mind because everything you say convinces me more and more that you and your family are victims of a demon masquerading as "Jesus".That said, I am of the opinion ( I believe strongly based on your testimony) that the spirit you communicated with was NOT the "Lord Jesus" but really a demon impersonating Jesus (or possibly you were communicating with the deceptive spirit Commander in Chief, Satan the Devil himself). So everything I have said I've said about the "fake" demon "Jesus impersonator" that was teaching you and your family for years. Yes that is my opinion, an opinion about your encounter is all anyone can have because we only have your testimony, so we will have to come to a conclusion based on that testimony until new information presents itself.
JW2 CORINTHIANS 11:14
For such men are false apostles, deceitful workers, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ.+ 14 And no wonder, for Satan himself keeps disguising himself as an angel of light
"Then if anyone says to you, 'Look, here is the Christ!' or 'There he is!' do not believe it. For false messiahs and false prophets will arise and perform great signs and wonders to lead astray, if possible, even the elect." - JESUS CHRIST
PARANORMAL ENCOUNTERSHow to identify the work of "deceptive spirits"?
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 5#p1187545
Reasons to conclude Onejack's encounter was with a demon/satan and not Jesus
viewtopic.php?p=1187526#p1187526
Should all encounters with spirits claiming to be Christ be BELIEVED?
viewtopic.php?p=1187526#p1187526
How does Satan manipulate innocent people into believing they are having supernatural encounters with Jesus Christ
viewtopic.php?p=1187545#p1187545
I keep telling you that because (in my opinion) a demon spirit [masquerading as Jesus] victimized you.
But don't worry, if I am mistaken I'm sure the REAL Lord Jesus (who is not far off from any of us) will set me straight personally , you don't have to respond, you've shared your message and done your best, I'm just unconvinced it was the REAL Jesus you spoke to. So, I will throw your testimony in the trash, not because I believe you didn't have a real paranormal experience (I'm sure you did) or that you are lying (I'm confident you are telling the truth about what you experienced), but because in my opinion (yes it is just my opinion) you are just mistaken as to WHO you were really talking to (see illustration above which illustrates MY OPINION)
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Post #326Excellent. I will continue to post commentaries on your testimonies and you (I take it) will not respond. I can respect that.
Have a most excellent day,
JW
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Re: The Shortest Way To The Truth
Post #327REASONS TO CONCLUDE ONEJACK'S SUPERNATURAL ENCOUNTER WAS WITH A DEMON/SATANIC

Jesus while he was on the earth provided ample proof of his divine origins. He also predicted that his enemy SATAN the Devil would try to undo what he had done. One method Satan uses is to impersonate good spirits, angels, Jesus or even Almighty God himself to dupe humans into leaving the way Jesus established and worshipping Satan indirectly. Since humans are ill equipped to distinguish between a good spirit and a bad one simply upon seeing them or having a supernatural experience, Jesus cautioned his listeners to
One of those things Jesus taught was to not to believe anyone that claimed to be Him (Jesus) since he promised only to return in kingdom power to judge the world of mankind and not before. Thus believers are protected from being duped because they can, on the authority of Christ dismiss ALL CLAIMS from spirits or humans to be "the Messiah" or Christ incarnate as bogus.

1. Did not identify itself as YHWH the name by which the God of Abraham self identified to Moses and the Prophets
2. Gave no demonstration of infinite power (did not raise anyone from the dead)
3. Undermined previously revealed scripture implying that the Almighty could not protect his written word and lost most of it by accident.
4. Started a family based "sect" that promotes the occultic practice of seeking supernatural revelation over study of inspired scripture
5. Contradicted fundamental teachings presented in the written eyewitness testimonies of the Apostles that witnessed Christs
6. Subjected a minor to "mind control" and what seemed like demonic possession and evidently kept him a slave to some kind of spiritism for 14 years until he broke free
MATTHEW 24:24-26
For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will perform great signs and wonders so as to mislead, if possible, even the chosen ones. 25 Look! I have forewarned you. 26 Therefore, if people say to you, ‘Look! He is in the wilderness,’ do not go out; ‘Look! He is in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it - JESUS CHRIST
Jesus while he was on the earth provided ample proof of his divine origins. He also predicted that his enemy SATAN the Devil would try to undo what he had done. One method Satan uses is to impersonate good spirits, angels, Jesus or even Almighty God himself to dupe humans into leaving the way Jesus established and worshipping Satan indirectly. Since humans are ill equipped to distinguish between a good spirit and a bad one simply upon seeing them or having a supernatural experience, Jesus cautioned his listeners to
(a) adhere closely to previously revealed scripture,
(b) avoid attempting to establish or respond to audible communication from the spirit world
(c) stay close to the things he (Jesus in the flesh) had taught them.
(b) avoid attempting to establish or respond to audible communication from the spirit world
(c) stay close to the things he (Jesus in the flesh) had taught them.
One of those things Jesus taught was to not to believe anyone that claimed to be Him (Jesus) since he promised only to return in kingdom power to judge the world of mankind and not before. Thus believers are protected from being duped because they can, on the authority of Christ dismiss ALL CLAIMS from spirits or humans to be "the Messiah" or Christ incarnate as bogus.
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Should all encounters with spirits claiming to be Christ be BELIEVED?
viewtopic.php?p=1187526#p1187526
How does Satan manipulate innocent people into believing they are having supernatural encounters with Jesus Christ
viewtopic.php?p=1187545#p1187545
INDEX: More bible based ANSWERS
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 81#p826681
"For if we live, we live to Jehovah, and if we die, we die to Jehovah. So both if we live and if we die, we belong to Jehovah" - Romans 14:8
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 81#p826681
"For if we live, we live to Jehovah, and if we die, we die to Jehovah. So both if we live and if we die, we belong to Jehovah" - Romans 14:8

