Proving God by proving the Bible

[RBD]

Since the God of the Bible says He cannot be proven nor found apart from His words, such as by physical sight, signs, philosophy, science, etc... then it is not possible to given any proof of the true God in heaven, apart from His words. Indeed, He says such seeking of proof is unbeliefe, vain, and decietful.

1Co 1:20 Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world? For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.

Luk 16:31And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.


Therefore, the only way to prove God is, and He is the God of the Bible, is to prove the Bible is true in all things. So, without sounding 'preachy' by only using God's words to prove Himself, then we can prove the Bible must be His proof by proving there is no contradiction between any of His words.

Proof that there is a God in heaven, and He is the Lord God of the Bible, is by the inerrancy of His words written by so many men, so many generations apart.

I propose to prove the God of the Bible is true, but proving there is no contradiction of His words of doctrine, and prophecy. If anyone believes there is a contradction, then let's see it. Otherwise, the Bible is perfectly true as written: The Creator of heaven and earth, and all creatures in heaven and on earth, is the Lord God of the Bible.

[otseng]

You're as sloppy with Bible teaching as you are with the Bible.

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[Athetotheist]

[Replying to RBD in post #573]

Scripture makes it's own reasonable case, that no Scripture can be in error based upon some reader's personal interpretation. I.e. the Author claims the common right of all writers to be read by His own words, not by anyone else's interpretation of His words.

Then Muhammed and Joseph Smith had the same right.

[Athetotheist]

[Replying to RBD in post #579]

And the challenge remains the same: Show any error in the Scriptures of the Bible from Genesis to Revelation. That's the Book that's perfectly unified without error.

[RBD]

It's already been proven the bible is erroneous as it reads. If you think it was actually written differently and in a way it can be proven true and 100% correct but we just don't have it, then your circular in providing an excuse to assert without authority or credibility. Unless you produce this infallible source.

It's already been proven the bible is not erroneous as it reads, by correcting all efforts to prove it is.

They all try to rewrite it in a way that can be proven untrue and incorrect. Their circular argument to disprove a Book by fallible rewriting, speaks for itself.

I.e. arguments stating things about the Book are meaningless, whether for or against. Just quote the Bible as written, and show any error in it. Just don't rewrite it.

[RBD]

[Replying to RBD in post #573]

Scripture makes it's own reasonable case, that no Scripture can be in error based upon some reader's personal interpretation. I.e. the Author claims the common right of all writers to be read by His own words, not by anyone else's interpretation of His words.

Then Muhammed and Joseph Smith had the same right.

Correct. They have the same right to answer for their own words. And when they lie about their words being from the same God of Abraham and Jesus Christ, then by their own words, they are writing a contradictory book of revelation and gospel.

Whether they contradict themselves within their own books is for someone to study. But they've already contradicting themselves by saying the speak for the God of Abraham not having a begotten Son, and for another testament Jesus Christ.

Psa 2:7
I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.

Gal 1:9
As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

[RBD]

[Replying to RBD in post #579]

And the challenge remains the same: Show any error in the Scriptures of the Bible from Genesis to Revelation. That's the Book that's perfectly unified without error.

I don't waste my time with other peoples' sites. If you have a challenge here. Make it here.

[Athetotheist]

[Replying to RBD in post #579]

And the challenge remains the same: Show any error in the Scriptures of the Bible from Genesis to Revelation. That's the Book that's perfectly unified without error.

I don't waste my time with other peoples' sites. If you have a challenge here. Make it here.

You should be up for any challenge, regardless of the source.

[Carnivalfaces]

[Replying to RBD in post #584]

Who are 'they'? If the bible isn't erroneous why does it say there is a dome around the earth when there isn't? Why does it say plants grew on earth before the sun existed?

[RBD]

[Replying to RBD in post #579]

And the challenge remains the same: Show any error in the Scriptures of the Bible from Genesis to Revelation. That's the Book that's perfectly unified without error.

I don't waste my time with other peoples' sites. If you have a challenge here. Make it here.

You should be up for any challenge, regardless of the source.

You should read your own stuff and bring it here. I debate people not sites.

[RBD]

[Replying to RBD in post #584]

Who are 'they'? If the bible isn't erroneous why does it say there is a dome around the earth when there isn't?

You don't know what the firmament is.

Why does it say plants grew on earth before the sun existed?

Plants grow by light, not just a star-sun.

Gen 1:3
And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.


The light of God shining out of the darkness gives life to grow quicker, stronger, and more abundantly than natural light.