"Take my word for it, or his, or this book"

[Zzyzx]

Most of us probably know better than to believe everything said or written. If someone tells us they can fly by flapping their arms, our response is likely disbelief and a request that they ‘show me’. If they refuse to demonstrate or fail in flapping, we regard their claim as false. Agreed?

If a person claims to have come back to life after being dead for days none of us are likely to believe the claim unless it could be verified. Right?

If someone writes that fifty years ago a long-dead person came back to life and flew away into the sky, what would be your / our likely reaction? Would we be convinced if they say ‘many saw him’?

What would it take to convince us that the tale was true?

[OneJack]

That's the meat of my job, to tell everyone to put all their trust in the Lord alone, not to the bible ....

Give me the quote from your so-called "Jesus" that affirms that we must "trust in the Lord alone , NOT THE BIBLE ..."

NOTE I don't want your opinion,' I don't want your interpretation of your spirit communication, I want the verbatim entire quotation containing the exact words "not the bible" from your spirit person.

The Lord taught us, saying:

Remember, eternal life and your salvation are in My hands. If you want to be saved, come and draw near to Me. If you want eternal life, come and call upon Me. Trust in Me, because if you don't, you will have no salvation and no eternal life. You will have nowhere to go but to calamity and suffering.

[JehovahsWitness]

... what matters here is the Lord Himself, not those words He uttered, which He allowed us to write..

Is that verbatim from your God or more of your "personal words"... Did God tell you that the "words he uttered" don't "matter"?

MATTHEW 4:4

"Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that comes from the mouth of God" - JESUS CHRIST

[JehovahsWitness]

That's the meat of my job, to tell everyone to put all their trust in the Lord alone, not to the bible ....

Give me the quote from your so-called "Jesus" that affirms that we must "trust in the Lord alone , NOT THE BIBLE ..."

NOTE I don't want your opinion,' I don't want your interpretation of your spirit communication, I want the verbatim entire quotation containing the exact words "not the bible" from your spirit person.

The Lord taught us, saying:

Remember, eternal life and your salvation are in My hands. If you want to be saved, come and draw near to Me. If you want eternal life, come and call upon Me. Trust in Me, because if you don't, you will have no salvation and no eternal life. You will have nowhere to go but to calamity and suffering.

I don't see the words "not the bible" in the verbatim quotation, does that mean it was YOU (just your opinion which can be rejected as false) not God that is telling us not to trust the bible.

[OneJack]

What can you read in my post if I do not present my words and the words we've heard and learned from God, which He allowed us to write for dissemination to all? They are all testimonies to the Lord, and they are not the ones who save but the Lord Himself alone.

so you expect us to believe what you write to be from God? Correct? Your post contain the written words of Almighty God verbatim?

I'm just expecting you guys to see the testimonies to Jesus, which may cause you to come to Him; you don't have to take anything from them. My personal words, which I use now in conversing with you, are nothing but to understand what I'm saying.

[OneJack]

'... But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe my words? - JESUS CHRIST

Did Jesus want people to "believe [Moses'] writings ? Yes or No?

As per the biblical account, I would say NO.

So Jesus wanted people to reject belief the writings of Moses?

Obviously, it's your opinion that says that, isn't it?

He didn't want people to believe what they read in the books Moses wrote.

Please confirm - correct or incorrect.

Your opinion matters not, sorry.

[OneJack]

... what matters here is the Lord Himself, not those words He uttered, which He allowed us to write..

Is that verbatim from your God or more of your "personal words"... Did God tell you that the "words he uttered" don't "matter"?

MATTHEW 4:4

"Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that comes from the mouth of God" - JESUS CHRIST

I told you, it's the verbatim command of the Lord. Those written words matter not if you will make them your manual and guidance in life, instead of coming to the Lord for that matter.

[JehovahsWitness]

"Those written words matter not if you will make them your manual and guidance in life, instead of coming to the Lord for that matter."

Ah that's not quite the same thing (please be sure to put the verbatim in "quotation marks" so it's clear for the reader (I added them for you above). So the quotation from your spirit is that the words don't matter if.... so it's a conditional sentence. Fair enough.

[OneJack]

That's the meat of my job, to tell everyone to put all their trust in the Lord alone, not to the bible ....

Give me the quote from your so-called "Jesus" that affirms that we must "trust in the Lord alone , NOT THE BIBLE ..."

NOTE I don't want your opinion,' I don't want your interpretation of your spirit communication, I want the verbatim entire quotation containing the exact words "not the bible" from your spirit person.

The Lord taught us, saying:

Remember, eternal life and your salvation are in My hands. If you want to be saved, come and draw near to Me. If you want eternal life, come and call upon Me. Trust in Me, because if you don't, you will have no salvation and no eternal life. You will have nowhere to go but to calamity and suffering.

I don't see the words "not the bible" in the verbatim quotation, does that mean it was YOU (just your opinion which can be rejected as false) not God that is telling us not to trust the bible.

What a funny joke!!!!!! Why are you looking for the phrase 'not the bible' when, with or without it, the statement of the Lord still stands firm and consistent? Why are you so obsessed with the bible that it seems to be your life and everything?

[JehovahsWitness]

What a funny joke!!!!!! Why are you looking for the phrase 'not the bible' when, with or without it, the statement of the Lord still stands firm and consistent? Why are you so obsessed with the bible that it seems to be your life and everything?

Why are you so obsesed with your own writings are not God are they? please strip you posts of your opinions (which matter not). Now you say that the writings of Moses are testimonies what did Jesus want, that people believed Moses testimonies or that people reject Moses testimonies (please don't bring the focus back to yourself again), try and focus on someone other than yourself for a little bit....

[JehovahsWitness]

[Replying to OneJack in post #288]

okay let's get back on track....

The Lord Jesus commanded us to make all people in the world disciples of His name, saying:

I am your Lord God, Almighty; follow my commandments ....

So you are to be a disciple maker, but how are you to fulfill that commission? Are you the one to inform people to "follow God's commandments"? If so how are they to know what God's commandments are? Surely your will have to repeat them or write them down? No?

What can you read in my post if I do not present my words and the words we've heard and learned from God, which He allowed us to write for dissemination to all? They are all testimonies to the Lord, and they are not the ones who save but the Lord Himself alone.

Are you saying you heard God's words and you are repeating God's words to us? Why are you repeating them, so that we believe the words and come to God or for some other reason ? please explain.