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The Shortest Way To The Truth

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The Shortest Way To The Truth

There are two important things about knowing God and the way to the salvation of our souls that we have to consider to keep ourselves away from deceptions, to wit:

1. Neither the bible nor John, Luke, Matthew, Paul, and the rest of the apostles is God.

2. Jesus is Immanuel, who is always beside us all the time. He is in a 24/7 watch mode for us who will come to Him and call on Him for the salvation of our souls.

Why do we have to be so obsessed with biblical accounts that we treat them as if they were the only source of truth about God and the salvation of our souls when Jesus is with us always, though we do not see Him yet? He can surely bring us to the truth if we come to Him and call on Him in the right way. Jesus, real and forever living God, is the only way to the truth about God and our salvation.

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JehovahsWitness wrote: Thu Apr 09, 2026 2:37 am
OneJack wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2026 10:44 pm
JehovahsWitness wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2026 10:21 pm Image
OneJack wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2026 9:06 pm The question should be: Did the Lord command the words [He uttered that He commanded to be written] be written?

The answer is YES! But like the original copies of the writings of different authors in different books of the bible, the same is nowhere to be found.

So although God commanded his words to be written for humankind and they were indeed written for humankind, he failed to make the written words available for humankind as originally intended. Correct ?




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OneJack wrote: Wed Mar 25, 2026 6:13 am
Thus saith the Lord Jesus Christ:

"If you were to sum up my uttered words that I commanded to be written," or "The words I uttered that I commanded to be written." for mankind, they would not exceed three pages
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.... God can see the utmost trust in Him from the people He has commissioned and continues to commission or sent out?
I'm sure that's true. Now my QUESTION for you is the following

Since your "Jesus" said explicity that God's words were written for mankind (3 pages) but those three pages of written words haven't reached mankind because (by your own words) they are currently "nowhere to be found" would that not mean that what he intended was not accomplished?
Your words are not my words. The original writing reached mankind, but as times and seasons passed by, the same is nowhere to be found.

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OneJack wrote: Thu Apr 09, 2026 2:49 am.





The original writing reached mankind, but as times and seasons passed by, the same is nowhere to be found



THREE PAGES FOR HUMANS "ACROSS ALL GENERATIONS"
OneJack wrote: Tue Mar 24, 2026 7:56 pm
JehovahsWitness wrote: Tue Mar 24, 2026 7:51 pm

What do you understand "para sa sangkatauhan" to mean?

For mankind is for all of us ...
OneJack wrote: Tue Mar 24, 2026 8:59 pm ...To let people know that the Almighty God always exists, across all generations.

My QUESTION is

Since by your own explanation "for mankind" is "for all of us" ... across all generations" , yet mankind's present generation cannot access the "three pages" which are (by your own admission) "nowhere to be found", does that not mean that the stated purpose (No. 3 in the chart below) is presently unaccomplished?

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http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 81#p826681


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Re: The Shortest Way To The Truth

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JehovahsWitness wrote: Thu Apr 09, 2026 4:20 am
OneJack wrote: Thu Apr 09, 2026 2:49 am.





The original writing reached mankind, but as times and seasons passed by, the same is nowhere to be found



THREE PAGES FOR HUMANS "ACROSS ALL GENERATIONS"
OneJack wrote: Tue Mar 24, 2026 7:56 pm
JehovahsWitness wrote: Tue Mar 24, 2026 7:51 pm

What do you understand "para sa sangkatauhan" to mean?

For mankind is for all of us ...
OneJack wrote: Tue Mar 24, 2026 8:59 pm ...To let people know that the Almighty God always exists, across all generations.

My QUESTION is

Since by your own explanation "for mankind" is "for all of us" ... across all generations" , yet mankind's present generation cannot access the "three pages" which are (by your own admission) "nowhere to be found", does that not mean that the stated purpose (No. 3 in the chart below) is presently unaccomplished?

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In that regard, God never stops communicating with mankind; hence, He continues to send His messenger in every generation, as in our case today.

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OneJack wrote: Fri Apr 10, 2026 12:28 am In that regard, God never stops communicating with mankind; hence, He continues to send His messenger in every generation, as in our case today.
That may be the case but what your so-called "Jesus" made clear was that God FAILED to accomplish what he intended for the words that he had written. They were written for mankind according to the quotation but for our present generation of mankind, those very written words are (by your own admission) "nowhere to be found".
OneJack wrote: Wed Mar 25, 2026 6:13 amThus saith the Lord Jesus Christ:

"If you were to sum up my uttered words that I commanded to be written," or "The words I uttered that I commanded to be written." for mankind, they would not exceed three pages
..."
If a Father promised that all his descendants would receive a heritage, for example a gold watch but it eventually was lost, did the promise come true or fail to come true? Even if it were replaced by something else, the original promise of the watch failed to come true (it was not received by his descendants). You testify that God commanded three pages be written for mankind... we didn't get them. FAIL
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Re: The Shortest Way To The Truth

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JehovahsWitness wrote: Fri Apr 10, 2026 12:38 am
OneJack wrote: Fri Apr 10, 2026 12:28 am
JehovahsWitness wrote: Thu Apr 09, 2026 4:20 am
OneJack wrote: Thu Apr 09, 2026 2:49 am.





The original writing reached mankind, but as times and seasons passed by, the same is nowhere to be found



THREE PAGES FOR HUMANS "ACROSS ALL GENERATIONS"
OneJack wrote: Tue Mar 24, 2026 7:56 pm
JehovahsWitness wrote: Tue Mar 24, 2026 7:51 pm

What do you understand "para sa sangkatauhan" to mean?

For mankind is for all of us ...
OneJack wrote: Tue Mar 24, 2026 8:59 pm ...To let people know that the Almighty God always exists, across all generations.

My QUESTION is

Since by your own explanation "for mankind" is "for all of us" ... across all generations" , yet mankind's present generation cannot access the "three pages" which are (by your own admission) "nowhere to be found", does that not mean that the stated purpose (No. 3 in the chart below) is presently unaccomplished?

Image
In that regard, God never stops communicating with mankind; hence, He continues to send His messenger in every generation, as in our case today.
That may be the case but what your so-called "Jesus" made clear was that God FAILED to accomplish what he intended for the words that he had written. They were written for mankind according to the quotation but for our present generation of mankind, those very written words are (by your own admission) "nowhere to be found". If a Father promised that all his descendants would receive a heritage, for example a gold watch but it eventually was lost, did the promise come true or fail to come true? Even if it were replaced by something else, the original promise of the watch failed to come true (it was not received by his descendants). We were promised 3 pages, we didn't get them.
The original copies of all the books of the Bible were also nowhere to be found, as in the case of the 3-page scriptures you're now obsessed with.

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OneJack wrote: Fri Apr 10, 2026 12:56 am The original copies of all the books of the Bible ...{SNIP : irrelevant}
We are not discussing the bible, we are discussing your so-called Jesus and what you have testified are his words.

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OneJack wrote: Wed Mar 25, 2026 6:13 amThus saith the Lord Jesus Christ:

"If you were to sum up my uttered words that I commanded to be written," or "The words I uttered that I commanded to be written." for mankind, they would not exceed three pages
..."
You yourself testified to the words above, you provided a translation and you EXPLAINED what they mean. The words are clear enough, your "Jesus" expressed his intention and that intention failed to be accomplished. Failure is not something the True God does, therefore there is no way for us to avoid coming to the conclusion, you were not in communication with the TRUE God but rather a vile IMPOSTER
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http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 81#p826681


"For if we live, we live to Jehovah, and if we die, we die to Jehovah. So both if we live and if we die, we belong to Jehovah" -
Romans 14:8

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JehovahsWitness wrote: Fri Apr 10, 2026 12:57 am
OneJack wrote: Fri Apr 10, 2026 12:56 am The original copies of all the books of the Bible ...{SNIP : irrelevant}
We are not discussing the bible, we are discussing your so-called Jesus and what you have testified are his words.

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OneJack wrote: Wed Mar 25, 2026 6:13 amThus saith the Lord Jesus Christ:

"If you were to sum up my uttered words that I commanded to be written," or "The words I uttered that I commanded to be written." for mankind, they would not exceed three pages
..."
You yourself testified to the words above, you provided a translation and you EXPLAINED what they mean. The words are clear enough, your "Jesus" expressed his intention and that intention failed to be accomplished. Failure is not something the True God does, therefore there is no way for us to avoid coming to the conclusion, you were not in communication with the TRUE God but rather a vile IMPOSTER
Neither do you have the capability nor the wisdom from God to know the things of God vis-à-vis the opinion of men because you've heard or learned nothing yet from God. All you're saying now is nothing but your own opinion, which I noted in my note, JW.

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OneJack wrote: Fri Apr 10, 2026 1:05 am
JehovahsWitness wrote: Fri Apr 10, 2026 12:57 am
OneJack wrote: Fri Apr 10, 2026 12:56 am The original copies of all the books of the Bible ...{SNIP : irrelevant}
We are not discussing the bible, we are discussing your so-called Jesus and what you have testified are his words.

CONTEXT
OneJack wrote: Wed Mar 25, 2026 6:13 amThus saith the Lord Jesus Christ:

"If you were to sum up my uttered words that I commanded to be written," or "The words I uttered that I commanded to be written." for mankind, they would not exceed three pages
..."
You yourself testified to the words above, you provided a translation and you EXPLAINED what they mean. The words are clear enough, your "Jesus" expressed his intention and that intention failed to be accomplished. Failure is not something the True God does, therefore there is no way for us to avoid coming to the conclusion, you were not in communication with the TRUE God but rather a vile IMPOSTER
Neither do you have the capability nor the wisdom from God ...


Let's not discuss me (I'm not important) but the True God is.

QUESTION Since by all evidence the "Jesus" you communicated with failed to fulfill his original intention that mankind recieved the 3 pages of written words, does that not constitute a failure on his part?
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Re: The Shortest Way To The Truth

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JehovahsWitness wrote: Fri Apr 10, 2026 1:09 am
OneJack wrote: Fri Apr 10, 2026 1:05 am
JehovahsWitness wrote: Fri Apr 10, 2026 12:57 am
OneJack wrote: Fri Apr 10, 2026 12:56 am The original copies of all the books of the Bible ...{SNIP : irrelevant}
We are not discussing the bible, we are discussing your so-called Jesus and what you have testified are his words.

CONTEXT
OneJack wrote: Wed Mar 25, 2026 6:13 amThus saith the Lord Jesus Christ:

"If you were to sum up my uttered words that I commanded to be written," or "The words I uttered that I commanded to be written." for mankind, they would not exceed three pages
..."
You yourself testified to the words above, you provided a translation and you EXPLAINED what they mean. The words are clear enough, your "Jesus" expressed his intention and that intention failed to be accomplished. Failure is not something the True God does, therefore there is no way for us to avoid coming to the conclusion, you were not in communication with the TRUE God but rather a vile IMPOSTER
Neither do you have the capability nor the wisdom from God ...


Let's not discuss me (I'm not important) but the True God is.

QUESTION Since by all evidence the "Jesus" you communicated with failed to fulfill his original intention that mankind recieved the 3 pages of written words, does that not constitute a failure on his part?
You have to be shepherded and guided by the Lord first so that you may know and recognize His utterances and deeds, without fail and doubt. Also, please refrain from following the footprints of the doubting Thomas during his time.

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OneJack wrote: Fri Apr 10, 2026 1:30 am
You have to be shepherded and guided by the Lord ...
Indeed, unfortunately some are "shepherded and guided" by a FAKE Lord. You seem to be reluctant to answer the question but it is evident the answer is a demon/devil lied to you and your family. It is clear from your own testimony that his utterance did not come true. Mankind did not receive the "three pages" intended for them, thus it is clear you spoke to a demon who lied to you and your family, distancing you from the written word of the True God (YHWH /Yahweh).
1. You explained that your so-called "Jesus" said with this own mouth that "three pages" of his utterances were to be "for mankind"
2. You yourself said that meant that "all" mankind were to have these (written) words throughout the "generations"
3. You admitted however that those very words, written down were "nowhere to be found".
CONCLUSION the words of your "Jesus" (point 1) were not fulfilled. Since the True God never purposes something that goes unfilled , He who spoke to you and your family could NOT have been the True God

Moving on....

You claim the bible canon is a "testimony" of humans? Is that correct? If not can you say in your own words what it is and why you think so?
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"For if we live, we live to Jehovah, and if we die, we die to Jehovah. So both if we live and if we die, we belong to Jehovah" -
Romans 14:8

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