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The Shortest Way To The Truth

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The Shortest Way To The Truth

There are two important things about knowing God and the way to the salvation of our souls that we have to consider to keep ourselves away from deceptions, to wit:

1. Neither the bible nor John, Luke, Matthew, Paul, and the rest of the apostles is God.

2. Jesus is Immanuel, who is always beside us all the time. He is in a 24/7 watch mode for us who will come to Him and call on Him for the salvation of our souls.

Why do we have to be so obsessed with biblical accounts that we treat them as if they were the only source of truth about God and the salvation of our souls when Jesus is with us always, though we do not see Him yet? He can surely bring us to the truth if we come to Him and call on Him in the right way. Jesus, real and forever living God, is the only way to the truth about God and our salvation.

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Have you never questioned, @OneJack, whether or not the vision or experience you had was actually God talking to you. People have had visions, but they are really Satan or one of his demons posing as an angel. When it contradicts so many times what is in the Bible, I would question that experience.

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OneJack wrote: Tue Mar 31, 2026 4:33 am 1. The words the Lord uttered that He commanded to be written were absolutely written ....
So would someone reading those words be reading the written words of the Lord? Yes or No?
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JehovahsWitness wrote: Tue Mar 31, 2026 7:49 pm
OneJack wrote: Tue Mar 31, 2026 4:33 am 1. The words the Lord uttered that He commanded to be written were absolutely written ....
So would someone reading those words be reading the written words of the Lord? Yes or No?
Someone reading those words would be reading 'the words the Lord uttered that He commanded to be written.'

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OneJack wrote: Tue Mar 31, 2026 9:15 pm Someone reading those words would be reading 'the words the Lord ....'
Two Questions

1. So the words of the Lord can be spoken and /or written Correct ?
2. The words of the Lord were in reality written (on paper or marchment or whatever) Correct?
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JehovahsWitness wrote: Wed Apr 01, 2026 1:27 am Image
OneJack wrote: Tue Mar 31, 2026 9:15 pm Someone reading those words would be reading 'the words the Lord ....'
Two Questions

1. So the words of the Lord can be spoken and /or written ? Correct
It depends upon the decision of the Lord. Which specific words of the Lord are you referring to in this context?
2. The words of the Lord were in reality written (on paper or marchment or whatever)? Correct.
Be specific with your theory; which specific words of the Lord are you trying to point out here?

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OneJack wrote: Wed Apr 01, 2026 1:35 am
JehovahsWitness wrote: Wed Apr 01, 2026 1:27 am Image
OneJack wrote: Tue Mar 31, 2026 9:15 pm Someone reading those words would be reading 'the words the Lord ....'
Two Questions

1. So the words of the Lord can be spoken and /or written ? Correct

It depends upon the decision of the Lord. ...
Of course, but if God commanded it to be written his words could be written (on paper or parchment or on a computer or whatever) correct?


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OneJack wrote: Tue Mar 24, 2026 7:56 pm Thus saith the Lord Jesus Christ:
“Kung susumahin ang aking mga winika na aking ipinasulat para maging kasulatan para sa sangkatauhan[/color] ay hindi lalagpas ang mga ito sa mga tatlong pahina ...”
OneJack wrote: Wed Mar 25, 2026 7:11 pm Direct Literal English Translation:
The words the Lord uttered that He commanded to be written to serve as scripture or humanity are done in such a way that they know that there truly is a God who exists forever.
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Re: The Shortest Way To The Truth

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JehovahsWitness wrote: Wed Apr 01, 2026 1:37 am
OneJack wrote: Wed Apr 01, 2026 1:35 am
JehovahsWitness wrote: Wed Apr 01, 2026 1:27 am Image
OneJack wrote: Tue Mar 31, 2026 9:15 pm Someone reading those words would be reading 'the words the Lord ....'
Two Questions

1. So the words of the Lord can be spoken and /or written ? Correct
Of course, but if God commanded it to be written it his words could be written (on paper or parchment or on a computer or whatever) correct?
Of course, if God commanded to write the words He uttered, the same could be written, no doubt.

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OneJack wrote: Wed Apr 01, 2026 1:50 am Of course, if God commanded to write the words He uttered, the same could be written, no doubt.
So if God commanded someone to write his "words" , once that was done, would his words be "written" ?


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OneJack wrote: Wed Mar 25, 2026 7:11 pm Direct Literal English Translation:
The words the Lord uttered that He commanded to be written to serve as scripture or humanity are done in such a way that they know that there truly is a God who exists forever.
INDEX: More bible based ANSWERS
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 81#p826681


"For if we live, we live to Jehovah, and if we die, we die to Jehovah. So both if we live and if we die, we belong to Jehovah" -
Romans 14:8

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Re: The Shortest Way To The Truth

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JehovahsWitness wrote: Wed Apr 01, 2026 1:53 am
OneJack wrote: Wed Apr 01, 2026 1:50 am Of course, if God commanded to write the words He uttered, the same could be written, no doubt.
So if God commanded someone to write his "words" , once that was done, would his words be "written" ?


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OneJack wrote: Wed Mar 25, 2026 7:11 pm Direct Literal English Translation:
The words the Lord uttered that He commanded to be written to serve as scripture or humanity are done in such a way that they know that there truly is a God who exists forever.
So if God commanded someone to write ‘the words He uttered that He commanded to be written,’ once that was done, ‘the words He uttered that He commanded to be written’ would, absolutely, be written.

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OneJack wrote: Wed Apr 01, 2026 4:23 am So if God commanded someone to write ‘the words He uttered that He commanded to be written,’ once that was done, ‘the words He uttered that He commanded to be written’ would, absolutely, be written.
God's words ? Are you refering to God's words?
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"For if we live, we live to Jehovah, and if we die, we die to Jehovah. So both if we live and if we die, we belong to Jehovah" -
Romans 14:8

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