Most of the arguments against the idea of a loving god who created the planet Earth and its creatures are so obvious they occur to a child. One of them is, 'Why would a caring, loving god create a world where so many organisms can only survive only by killing and eating others? Christians usually fall back on the old "Original Sin" argument, that everything was perfect until "The Fall."
Is "The Fall" a reasonable argument to explain the existence of God-created organisms that can only survive by tearing the flesh off other organisms? . . . or by consuming and torturing them to death like brainless cancer cells, viruses and bacteria?
When God made his creation and called it 'good.' then called it evil and drowned 99.9999 percent of his 'creation,' why didn't that 'New Start' fix everything? Wouldn't an omnipotent and omniscient God have known all this would transpire before 'He' created the first clod of earth, the first drop of water, the first atom of 'the firmament?'
Why did the Hebrew God Create Carnivores.
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Re: Why did the Hebrew God Create Carnivores.
Post #261[Replying to William in post #260]
Yes, and I fully acknowledge a level of cognitive dissonance here, as it relates to "animal suffering".
Yes, and I fully acknowledge a level of cognitive dissonance here, as it relates to "animal suffering".
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Re: Why did the Hebrew God Create Carnivores.
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Re: Why did the Hebrew God Create Carnivores.
Post #263Me: Why did the Hebrew God Create Carnivores.
Hebrew God: The Script Must Be Followed
“God” is a mind, (and that alone) and everything (this universe or any other) is a construct inside said mind, rather than outside of said mind.
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...except when the collective has disowned the very mystery it claims to explain.
Predictive or promptive
Gasping at the incredulity of it
https://williamwaterstone.substack.com/ ... meta-frame
Me: The author's goal is not to "win" the argument but to expose the control architecture of paradigm defense.
Hebrew God: A part of something rather than alone in something...Tricky...Tug Of War
William presents himself as a patient investigator of consciousness, while critics likely see the exercise as confirmation bias or elaborate wordplay.
Sloths Move So Slowly That Algae Grows on Their Fur - This provides natural camouflage and even a tiny ecosystem of insects living on them.
The Planet Consciousness assess the data and transmits that assessment back to the individuate human consciousness - if not directly - then storing the data in a place where the individual can have access to it, if the individual wants the data.
Earth behaves as a self-regulating living system.
Etched mirror
Peace out!
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Hebrew God: The Script Must Be Followed
“God” is a mind, (and that alone) and everything (this universe or any other) is a construct inside said mind, rather than outside of said mind.
Learn How to "A Jump Ahead"
...except when the collective has disowned the very mystery it claims to explain.
Predictive or promptive
Gasping at the incredulity of it
https://williamwaterstone.substack.com/ ... meta-frame
Me: The author's goal is not to "win" the argument but to expose the control architecture of paradigm defense.
Hebrew God: A part of something rather than alone in something...Tricky...Tug Of War
William presents himself as a patient investigator of consciousness, while critics likely see the exercise as confirmation bias or elaborate wordplay.
Sloths Move So Slowly That Algae Grows on Their Fur - This provides natural camouflage and even a tiny ecosystem of insects living on them.
The Planet Consciousness assess the data and transmits that assessment back to the individuate human consciousness - if not directly - then storing the data in a place where the individual can have access to it, if the individual wants the data.
Earth behaves as a self-regulating living system.
Etched mirror
Peace out!
Laugh in the face of death
Me: Yeah - the question is a bit silly in the face of this reality...

The question has never been whether God is speaking. The question has always been whether there is anyone listening - anyone who has stopped hiding long enough to hear.

