Biblically Sanctioned?

[Tcg]

"Without any clear message coming from the White House with regard to the purpose of the Iran war, U.S. military commanders have turned to Jesus, apparently telling American troops that the war is “biblically sanctioned.”"

This quote is taken from the following article:

https://newrepublic.com/post/207270/mil ... armageddon

It further states: “He said that ‘President Trump has been anointed by Jesus to light the signal fire in Iran to cause Armageddon and mark his return to Earth,’”

Is this war "biblically sanctioned?"


Tcg

[1213]

...How in the world could a Christian believe that Trump, Hegseth, along with this Christian nationalist administration, bring about the return of Christ? ...
...What we have here is stupid Christians, with their stupid eschatology who believe they have the power to cause the return of Christ...

If Armageddon means that all nations go fight against Israel, do you not think it is the humans who decide to do so?

I think it is wrong, if some Christians intentionally want to cause it, but I think it is humans who choose to do it. However, I don't think that means humans can cause the return of Christ.

And no matter what people do, the end comes only after this has been fulfilled:

This Gospel of the Kingdom will be preached in the whole world for a testimony to all the nations, and then the end will come. ...
Matt. 24:14-15

....How in the world can we as Christians believe that God would allow the Jews to rebuild the temple in order to return to the practice of animal sacrifices? ...

Why would God not allow them to have the temple?

I think the problem with the temple and sacrificing is, if it is done with wrong reasons. If people voluntarily want to give thanks, because they want to thank God, and therefore sacrifice like in Lev. 22:29-30, I don't see any problem in that. If it is done to gain some reward, it is not useful.

When you sacrifice a sacrifice of thanksgiving to Yahweh, you shall sacrifice it so that you may be accepted. It shall be eaten on the same day; you shall leave none of it until the morning. I am Yahweh.
Lev. 22:29-30

[Realworldjack]

[Replying to 1213 in post #11]

If Armageddon means that all nations go fight against Israel, do you not think it is the humans who decide to do so?

I think it is wrong, if some Christians intentionally want to cause it, but I think it is humans who choose to do it. However, I don't think that means humans can cause the return of Christ.

And no matter what people do, the end comes only after this has been fulfilled:

This Gospel of the Kingdom will be preached in the whole world for a testimony to all the nations, and then the end will come. ...
Matt. 24:14-15

The bottom line is if the reports are correct, we have those in the U.S. military who are claiming that our actions can cause the return of Christ, and you are apparently blind enough to believe that these folks can do just that. GOOD GRIEF! My friend, nothing whatsoever has to occur before the return of Christ. Jesus Christ can return today, and there is no Armageddon which must occur before hand, nor does the temple in Jerusalem have to be rebuilt. I can go on to tell you that the post-mill folks are under the impression that the whole world must be Christianized before the return of Christ, and that is false as well. All of the afore mentioned, are simply stupid Christians, with their stupid eschatology, when the fact of the matter is, nothing has to occur in order for Christ to return.

As far as "This Gospel of the Kingdom will be preached in the whole world for a testimony to all the nations," exactly what nation would it be who is unaware of the gospel? I am thinking the name of Jesus Christ is one of the most, if not the most recognized names in the history of the entire world. The gospel being preached in the whole world could not possibly mean that everyone in the whole entire world would have the gospel preached to them individually, because we know there are people who have died who have never heard the gospel. Rather, it means that the gospel would be preached in all nations. What nation is there today where the gospel has not been preached? Again, stupid Christians, with their stupid eschatology, who believe they have the knowledge of what must happened before Christ can return. The real scary thing now is these stupid Christians, with their stupid eschatology, have gained power in the U.S.A. and they are using the most powerful military thinking they have the power to cause the return of Christ, and you actually believe they have the power to do just that, because you are under the impression that Jesus Christ cannot possibly return until there is this "Armageddon."

Why would God not allow them to have the temple?

I really do not know what to say here. It is like this is an unreal question. How about the fact that Jesus was the final sacrifice for sin? How about the fact that, the blood of bulls and goats cannot atone for sin. Why in the world do you suppose that Jesus predicted the destruction of the temple? Why do you suppose that God had the temple destroyed by the Romans? Would it be because the death of Jesus replaced the temple? How in the world can Christians suppose that we are to champion the rebuilding of the temple, in order for the Jews to continue in a false religion, as opposed to us as Christians attempting to convert the Jews to Christ as the complete, and final sacrifice for sin? I cannot believe I am having to ask a Christian such questions. But allow me to ask another question I would have never thought I would have to ask another Christian. Are you in support of the Jewish people rebuilding the temple?

I think the problem with the temple and sacrificing is, if it is done with wrong reasons.

My friend, if the temple was to be rebuilt (which is not going to happen) it would have to be done for the wrong reasons, since there is no reason whatsoever to sacrifice animals for the atonement of sin, since Christ has already accomplished this.

If people voluntarily want to give thanks, because they want to thank God, and therefore sacrifice like in Lev. 22:29-30, I don't see any problem in that.

My friend, we are talking about rebuilding the temple, and returning to the Jewish law, which cannot atone for sin. I can only be frank here when I say, if you are under the impression that we as Christians should be okay with folks "voluntarily giving thanks, because they want to thank God" and therefore revert back to sacrifices such as Lev. 22:29-30, then all I can say is, you cannot possibly be Christian. How in the world can a Christian possibly believe that it is fine for folks to worship God anyway they see fit? The only possible way a Christian can be looking forward to the rebuilding of the Jewish temple is because they have bought into the eschatology that the temple has to be rebuilt before the return of Christ. Other than that, these Christians would be hoping for the Jewish people to let go of the law, and cling to Christ.

[1213]

...My friend, nothing whatsoever has to occur before the return of Christ.

Sorry, I rather believe Jesus than you.

.... exactly what nation would it be who is unaware of the gospel?

Because the end has not come, there must have been nations that have not heard the Gospel of the Kingdom as Jesus said in the Matt. 24:14-15. Perhaps most nations have only heard the doctrines of men that are called Christianity.

How about the fact that Jesus was the final sacrifice for sin?

Not all sacrifices are about sin. There is also thanksgiving offers that I think can be accepted.

Are you in support of the Jewish people rebuilding the temple?

I am not against it. But, if they do it, I think they should do it for right reasons.