The Shortest Way To The Truth

[OneJack]

The Shortest Way To The Truth

There are two important things about knowing God and the way to the salvation of our souls that we have to consider to keep ourselves away from deceptions, to wit:

1. Neither the bible nor John, Luke, Matthew, Paul, and the rest of the apostles is God.

2. Jesus is Immanuel, who is always beside us all the time. He is in a 24/7 watch mode for us who will come to Him and call on Him for the salvation of our souls.

Why do we have to be so obsessed with biblical accounts that we treat them as if they were the only source of truth about God and the salvation of our souls when Jesus is with us always, though we do not see Him yet? He can surely bring us to the truth if we come to Him and call on Him in the right way. Jesus, real and forever living God, is the only way to the truth about God and our salvation.

[JehovahsWitness]

The words of the Almighty God are in the mouth of the Lord Jesus Christ, who matters most always!

I am not asking whose mouth the words came out of, I am what the words ( "words of the Almighty God" ) were. Moses was in communication with "the Almighty God" correct? If so, how did the Almighty God (granted, through the "mouth" of whomever he chose) but how did Almighty God (the God of Abraham) identify Himself on that occassion?

[OneJack]

The words of the Almighty God are in the mouth of the Lord Jesus Christ, who matters most always!

I am not asking whose mouth the words came out of, I am what the words ( "words of the Almighty God" ) were. Moses was in communication with "the Almighty God" correct? If so, how did the Almighty God (granted, through the "mouth" of whomever he chose) but how did Almighty God (the God of Abraham) identify Himself on that occassion?

It seems you're too obsessed with the conversation between God and Moses, as if you were there when it happened; your dependency on the written words in the Bible was, in reality, totally dragged into oblivion. No one, today, knows the manner in which the Lord God identified Himself to Moses in their conversation on Mt. Sinai. Couldn’t you accept that fact? The bible is not God, hence, not inerrant.

[JehovahsWitness]

... No one, today, knows the manner in which the Lord God identified Himself to Moses in their conversation on Mt. Sinai.

I did not ask what people "know" I asked if you BELIEVE it. Even if you don't believe it, since said ...

The Lord God appeared to Moses through the angel of the Lord, in a flame of fire in a burning bush.

Since you (correct me if I am mistaken) believe the event and the conversation took place and this us the only record we have of that famous exchange at the burning bush (indeed it is the only record we have of Moses being appointed as prophet - which you DO believe), my question for you is ...

1. What us the ONLY name the God of Abraham is recorded at Exodus as using to identify Himself on that occasion?

EXODO 3:13, 15
Pero sinabi ni Moises sa tunay na Diyos: “Kung puntahan ko ang mga Israelita at sabihin kong ‘Isinugo ako sa inyo ng Diyos ng inyong mga ninuno,’ at sabihin nila sa akin, ‘Ano ang pangalan niya?’o ano ang isasagot ko sa kanila?” [...] At muling sinabi ng Diyos kay Moises: “Ito ang sasabihin mo sa mga Israelita, ‘Isinugo ako sa inyo ni Jehova [YHWH] na Diyos ng inyong mga ninuno, ang Diyos ni Abraham,r ang Diyos ni Isaac,s at ang Diyos ni Jacob.’t Ito ang pangalan ko magpakailanman,u at dapat itong tandaan ng lahat ng henerasyon.

JW

[servant1]

The words of the Almighty God are in the mouth of the Lord Jesus Christ, who matters most always!

I am not asking whose mouth the words came out of, I am what the words ( "words of the Almighty God" ) were. Moses was in communication with "the Almighty God" correct? If so, how did the Almighty God (granted, through the "mouth" of whomever he chose) but how did Almighty God (the God of Abraham) identify Himself on that occassion?

It seems you're too obsessed with the conversation between God and Moses, as if you were there when it happened; your dependency on the written words in the Bible was, in reality, totally dragged into oblivion. No one, today, knows the manner in which the Lord God identified Himself to Moses in their conversation on Mt. Sinai. Couldn’t you accept that fact? The bible is not God, hence, not inerrant.

ALL who know and love God, know 100% HE wrote the bible through men. Its those in darkness who don't know.

[Capbook]

[Replying to Capbook in post #82]

As your Jesus did not die, how would he save his people from their sins?

First of all, don’t divide Jesus, the Almighty God. Don’t you know Jesus needs nothing to save Capbook but Himself? And Capbook needs nothing but Jesus to have salvation and eternal life with Him in Paradise.

I did not divide the true Jesus, I reasoned that our Jesus died, quoted from the Bible the same way you quote Bible verses to prove your point.

Would you care enough to explain how you interpret the verse below?

1Johnn 1:7 but if we walk in the Light as He Himself is in the Light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus His Son cleanses us from all sin.

Sorry, but I don’t have that verse in my bucket list.

Is it what we call "double standard," quoting Bible verses that only supports or aligned to one's belief and disregard others that contradicts?

[OneJack]

[Replying to Capbook in post #82]

As your Jesus did not die, how would he save his people from their sins?

First of all, don’t divide Jesus, the Almighty God. Don’t you know Jesus needs nothing to save Capbook but Himself? And Capbook needs nothing but Jesus to have salvation and eternal life with Him in Paradise.

I did not divide the true Jesus, I reasoned that our Jesus died, quoted from the Bible the same way you quote Bible verses to prove your point.

Would you care enough to explain how you interpret the verse below?

1Johnn 1:7 but if we walk in the Light as He Himself is in the Light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus His Son cleanses us from all sin.

Sorry, but I don’t have that verse in my bucket list.

Is it what we call "double standard," quoting Bible verses that only supports or aligned to one's belief and disregard others that contradicts?

Call it whatever you like, I stand firm in my belief in Jesus.

[JehovahsWitness]

... No one, today, knows the manner in which the Lord God identified Himself to Moses in their conversation on Mt. Sinai. Couldn’t you accept that fact? The bible is not God, hence, not inerrant.

You keep refering to what you dont know rather than what you do believe, it's very simple, do you believe that the God of Abraham identified Himself to Moses by the name YHWH (Yahweh) or do you believe that the account as written, is a biblical/scribal error?

EXODO 3:13, 15
Pero sinabi ni Moises sa tunay na Diyos: “Kung puntahan ko ang mga Israelita at sabihin kong ‘Isinugo ako sa inyo ng Diyos ng inyong mga ninuno,’ at sabihin nila sa akin, ‘Ano ang pangalan niya?’o ano ang isasagot ko sa kanila?” [...] At muling sinabi ng Diyos kay Moises: “Ito ang sasabihin mo sa mga Israelita, ‘Isinugo ako sa inyo ni Jehova [YHWH] na Diyos ng inyong mga ninuno, ang Diyos ni Abraham,r ang Diyos ni Isaac,s at ang Diyos ni Jacob.’t Ito ang pangalan ko magpakailanman,u at dapat itong tandaan ng lahat ng henerasyon.

[BruceLeiter]

[Replying to OneJack in post #10]

@OneJack, if Jesus never told you to use the Bible to repel Satan, why did he use the Bible to defeat Satan when he was tempted in the desert?

Luk 4:3  The devil said to him, “If you are the Son of God, command this stone to become bread.” 
Luk 4:4  And Jesus answered him, “It is written, ‘Man shall not live by bread alone.’” 
Luk 4:5  And the devil took him up and showed him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time, 
Luk 4:6  and said to him, “To you I will give all this authority and their glory, for it has been delivered to me, and I give it to whom I will. 
Luk 4:7  If you, then, will worship me, it will all be yours.” 
Luk 4:8  And Jesus answered him, “It is written, “‘You shall worship the Lord your God, and him only shall you serve.’” 
Luk 4:9  And he took him to Jerusalem and set him on the pinnacle of the temple and said to him, “If you are the Son of God, throw yourself down from here, 
Luk 4:10  for it is written, “‘He will command his angels concerning you, to guard you,’ 
Luk 4:11  and “‘On their hands they will bear you up, lest you strike your foot against a stone.’” 
Luk 4:12  And Jesus answered him, “It is said, ‘You shall not put the Lord your God to the test.’” 
Luk 4:13  And when the devil had ended every temptation, he departed from him until an opportune time. 

[servant1]

... No one, today, knows the manner in which the Lord God identified Himself to Moses in their conversation on Mt. Sinai. Couldn’t you accept that fact? The bible is not God, hence, not inerrant.

You keep refering to what you dont know rather than what you do believe, it's very simple, do you believe that the God of Abraham identified Himself to Moses by the name YHWH (Yahweh) or do you believe that the account as written, is a biblical/scribal error?

EXODO 3:13, 15
Pero sinabi ni Moises sa tunay na Diyos: “Kung puntahan ko ang mga Israelita at sabihin kong ‘Isinugo ako sa inyo ng Diyos ng inyong mga ninuno,’ at sabihin nila sa akin, ‘Ano ang pangalan niya?’o ano ang isasagot ko sa kanila?” [...] At muling sinabi ng Diyos kay Moises: “Ito ang sasabihin mo sa mga Israelita, ‘Isinugo ako sa inyo ni Jehova [YHWH] na Diyos ng inyong mga ninuno, ang Diyos ni Abraham,r ang Diyos ni Isaac,s at ang Diyos ni Jacob.’t Ito ang pangalan ko magpakailanman,u at dapat itong tandaan ng lahat ng henerasyon.

I didnt write no one knows today. I know 100% YHVH(Jehovah) told moses his name. I dont know how that error occurred.

[JehovahsWitness]

I didnt write no one knows today. I know 100% YHVH(Jehovah) told moses his name. I dont know how that error occurred.

Sorry Servant, I meant that question gor onejack