Michael
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Post #41placebofactor wrote: ↑Mon Jun 16, 2025 12:08 pmYou say that Jesus is Jehovah, the Son and also the Father. Why would the Father make himself LORD? Wouldn't he already be LORD?onewithhim wrote: ↑Mon Jun 16, 2025 10:42 amBecause the Father made Jesus the LORD.placebofactor wrote: ↑Fri Jun 13, 2025 5:49 pmIf Jesus is the angel OF the LORD, how can he also BE the LORD?placebofactor wrote: ↑Mon Apr 14, 2025 4:40 pmJesus came to men in the O.T. in many forms. He showed himself as a man to Abraham. The two angels with him also showed themselves as men; Genesis 17.
Jesus came in the form of a man and wrestled with Jacob, Genesis 32:24. Jacob then wrote, verse 30, "I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved."
Jehovah (Jesus) came to Manoah and his wife as the angel of the LORD. His message to them was, Judges 13:3, "Behold no, thou art barren, and bear not: but you shall conceive, and bear a son." That son would be Samson.
Let me make this as simple as possible. Jesus is the Creator of the heaven and earth, even the watchtower admits that. "He created all other things." He took out a people for himself, a future bride, it began with Abraham. He then married that bride, but they were unfaithful, so he divorced her. Centuries later, the Father sent his Son back to purchase his divorced bride back from slavery. "Jesus came to seek and to save the lost sheep of the house of Israel." In the future, there will be a wedding in heaven. The bridegroom is Jesus, and the bride is the church, consisting of both faithful, believing, and trusting Jews and Gentiles. Not doubters!!!!!
You say "the Father sent his Son back to purchase his divorced bride..." Wait. The Father is sending himself to purchase his divorced bride? Why would he send Himself? It looks to me like the Father and Jesus are two separate individuals.
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Re: Michael
Post #42According to the Doctrine of the Trinity, the Father and the Son aren't the same person, but they are the same God.onewithhim wrote: ↑Tue Jun 17, 2025 9:29 pmYou say "the Father sent his Son back to purchase his divorced bride..." Wait. The Father is sending himself to purchase his divorced bride?
He wouldn't. He sent the Son.
Exactly.onewithhim wrote: ↑Tue Jun 17, 2025 9:29 pmIt looks to me like the Father and Jesus are two separate individuals.
My pronouns are he, him, and his.
