When Was America Great?

[boatsnguitars]

"Republicans, over all, recall the late 1950s and the mid-1980s most fondly. Sample explanations: “Reagan.” “Economy was booming.” “No wars!” “Life was simpler.” “Strong family values.” The distribution of Trump supporters’ greatest years is somewhat similar to the Republican trend, but more widely dispersed over the last 70 years. Supporters of Ted Cruz picked best years that were similar to the party’s trend over all. The sample of John Kasich supporters in the survey was too small to detect any patterns."
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/ar ... in/481167/

This is fascinating to me. Republicans almost completely choose years in which Democrats held power, and describe them as “Economy was booming.” “No wars!” “Life was simpler.” “Strong family values.”



We all know Republicans can't govern, and GOP supporters are well known for their contradictions, but this is rather stark. Also, consider this:



Note how Republicans opinion about the Federal Government vastly changes based on who wins the Presidency - yet, generally, the House and Senate stay the same, but certainly, the entire Federal Government generally stays the same, as the Government employees and laws are pretty much the same year to year. This suggests to me Republicans react to the figurehead, and have no understanding of how government works.

This graph shows how Republicans have become more extremist suddenly, rushing to extreme Conservatism while most people are more Moderate. And this graph ends in 2011 - it's gotten worse.

So, when was America Great? Was it when Democrats were in charge - and is it time to return to “Economy was booming.” “No wars!” “Life was simpler.” “Strong family values”?


Special challenge: Please post a graph that adds to your comment. Let's try to get this filled with charts and graphs!

[marke]

You're "not extreme" compared to what?

Do you think the people behind the black teenager were more or less frightened of changes to the social order than you are? Which of the people in that image, if any, would you characterize as extremist? With whom in that image would you most closely identify? Many of the people in that image presumably knew the difference between black and white. In what ways is that similar to your own attitude? In what ways is it different?

Marke: My white aunt was a student at Little Rock High when that pohoto was made and she befriended black girls because skin color did not matter to her, but her father was a preservative (not 'conservative' but 'preservative' supporter of the racist democrat party and true believer in the racist democrat mindset of his day.

Adam (the) Shaft, corrupt: Hillary (rotten) Clinton, corrupt: Joe Biden (corrupt). Russia gate (lies).

Moderates don't often punctuate their public rhetoric with name-calling. Do you think all Democrats do that? If not, how extreme does one have to be to start doing so?

Men playing contact sports against girls,

This is the second time you've referred to trans people. This must be really important to you.

more ignorant Democratic bull. etc.

Ignorant of what? What knowledge do you think you're privy to that Democrats aren't?

Democrats like Obama, Nancy, Joe, Chucky boy, and Hillary came into Congress as middle-class Americans, and now each one is a multi-millionaire.

In 1991, Obama graduated from Harvard Law. In 2009, Obama's net worth was quoted at $1.3 million dollars. This was after a career as a lawyer, a State Senator, and a U.S. Senator. He is also married to a lawyer. I currently make less than the public salaries of high-ranking politicians and the lawyers I know, but my net worth, which includes things like retirement accounts, is nearly a million dollars. I'm not a politician, let alone a corrupt one. In recent years, Obama has become a top-selling author, which is plausibly responsible for his subsequent increase in wealth. Simple net worth is hardly grounds for accusations of corruption and you (and Glenn Beck) will have to do better than that.

Over one trillion dollars is unaccounted for under the Biden administration. How do you lose a trillion dollars?

You'll have to tell us where those numbers come from and what they mean.

That's your Democratic party of pimps and thieves.

Here's a slogan the Democrats can use: "We are the party of inaccuracies of oddities."

This doesn't sound extremist at all.

[help3434]

The 1950s were the best years. The War was over, homes were being built for veterans and working families, and our farmers were producing food for the nation. Then Korea started, and it changed everything.

The Korean war was at the beginning of the 50s.

[Lazari]

"Republicans, over all, recall the late 1950s and the mid-1980s most fondly. Sample explanations: “Reagan.” “Economy was booming.” “No wars!” “Life was simpler.” “Strong family values.” The distribution of Trump supporters’ greatest years is somewhat similar to the Republican trend, but more widely dispersed over the last 70 years. Supporters of Ted Cruz picked best years that were similar to the party’s trend over all. The sample of John Kasich supporters in the survey was too small to detect any patterns."
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/ar ... in/481167/

This is fascinating to me. Republicans almost completely choose years in which Democrats held power, and describe them as “Economy was booming.” “No wars!” “Life was simpler.” “Strong family values.”



We all know Republicans can't govern, and GOP supporters are well known for their contradictions, but this is rather stark. Also, consider this:



Note how Republicans opinion about the Federal Government vastly changes based on who wins the Presidency - yet, generally, the House and Senate stay the same, but certainly, the entire Federal Government generally stays the same, as the Government employees and laws are pretty much the same year to year. This suggests to me Republicans react to the figurehead, and have no understanding of how government works.

This graph shows how Republicans have become more extremist suddenly, rushing to extreme Conservatism while most people are more Moderate. And this graph ends in 2011 - it's gotten worse.

So, when was America Great? Was it when Democrats were in charge - and is it time to return to “Economy was booming.” “No wars!” “Life was simpler.” “Strong family values”?


Special challenge: Please post a graph that adds to your comment. Let's try to get this filled with charts and graphs!

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This trend reinforces the idea that Republican views on government are heavily influenced by the figurehead of the presidency, rather than a deeper understanding of the long-term, institutional operations of the federal government. While government functions and employees remain relatively constant, Republican approval seems to rise and fall in direct response to the party in power.

[A Freeman]

A politician is a professional liar.

It doesn't matter which political party sponsors them.

Politics in general is a very obvious, satanic divide and conquer strategy. While everyone is busy arguing over which political party they believe is best, or that they've been duped into believing is serving their best interests, ALL political parties are being used to make the rich richer and the poor poorer, through policies that are bought and paid for just like the politicians that front them.

No country can ever truly be great as long as they have professional liars running them through corporate fictional governments and their corporate fictional government agencies and corporate fictional courts.

[Athetotheist]

[Replying to A Freeman in post #14]

A politician is a professional liar.

Politicians are like adolescents; the more you let them get away with, the more they'll try to get away with.

Politics in general is a very obvious, satanic divide and conquer strategy. While everyone is busy arguing over which political party they believe is best, or that they've been duped into believing is serving their best interests, ALL political parties are being used to make the rich richer and the poor poorer, through policies that are bought and paid for just like the politicians that front them.

I believe you've hit upon it without realizing it. The divide-and-conquer is done through politics, but it isn't done for politics. It's done for economics. Keeping the masses divided against each other keeps them from uniting and taking their economic power back.

No country can ever truly be great as long as they have professional liars running them through corporate fictional governments and their corporate fictional government agencies and corporate fictional courts.

Does it shock you to realize that you have more in common with socialists than you thought?

[A Freeman]

Political systems, like political parties, are there to provide the people with the ILLUSION of choice.

The political systems of capitalism, socialism and communism all consolidate the wealth of a nation into the hands of a select few, with the overwhelming majority surviving off of the crumbs that fall from the table of the rich and powerful.

[marke]

America was at that point doing well for making Americans well-off, arguably at the expense of everyone else.

Marke: In Christian governments, workers earn wages for their own labor and do not envy others who have more wealth or advantages.


https://cis.org/Report/Wages-Immigration

Now, most sources will say immigration actually raises wages, because, according to the Cato institute, the idea that there are a fixed number of jobs is naive. Immigrants, they say, increase demand for goods and services - thus opening opportunities to fill that demand, in other words, creating a job - for every job they take away.

Marke: Immigration is not evil but breaking laws intended to prevent immigrants from entering the US to do harm or become dependents on the government is evil.

But who benefits are property owners, who demand more productivity and pay people less.

Marke: Communists claim the wealth, including property owners, are evil, yet their solution is to do away with or diminish the wealth of earners and replace the system with wealth distribution to all overseen by wealthy oligarchs wielding totalitarian control.