every tear

[Athetotheist]

"He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.”
(Rev. 21:4)

Imagine yourself in heaven after the end of this world, where the throngs of the saved have been gathered to sing praises to Jesus for eternity.....

.....but someone you loved very deeply and dearly in this life is not there. That someone was loving, kind, humble and generous, but was just never convinced of the Jesus story......

.....so now you're in heaven forever and your dear one is not, and sometimes you stand alone at the edge of heaven looking out into the abyss and remembering.

As long as you remember, can every tear be wiped from your eyes? How? Must an act of divine amnesia be worked upon you to remove the sorrow from your heart by removing the loved one from your mind? Are you to simply put your memory and your love away in the eternal rejoicing? If so, is the eternal bliss still genuine?

[POI]

"He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.”
(Rev. 21:4)

Imagine yourself in heaven after the end of this world, where the throngs of the saved have been gathered to sing praises to Jesus for eternity.....

.....but someone you loved very deeply and dearly in this life is not there. That someone was loving, kind, humble and generous, but was just never convinced of the Jesus story......

.....so now you're in heaven forever and your dear one is not, and sometimes you stand alone at the edge of heaven looking out into the abyss and remembering.

As long as you remember, can every tear be wiped from your eyes? How? Must an act of divine amnesia be worked upon you to remove the sorrow from your heart by removing the loved one from your mind? Are you to simply put your memory and your love away in the eternal rejoicing? If so, is the eternal bliss still genuine?

I reckon the answer to your question is NO!

Seems the logical conclusion here would be to argue that you are transformed anew, after you enter through the "pearly gates". But if this is the case, then why not just allow for all to enter, as you are no longer you, after you die. Why? Because if your memory is instead erased, to forget your unchosen loved ones, or, are made anew to develop complete callus towards the unchosen, then again, just allow all. If no more 'sin' and no more 'sadness' exists in Heaven, then you must be transformed in some capacity. Which means you are no longer you. Since all would require this, it makes little sense to not just allow all into Heaven?.?.?.?

[1213]

... That someone was loving, kind, humble and generous....

If that would be true, I believe he would be in heaven.

As long as you remember, can every tear be wiped from your eyes? How? Must an act of divine amnesia be worked upon you to remove the sorrow from your heart by removing the loved one from your mind? Are you to simply put your memory and your love away in the eternal rejoicing? If so, is the eternal bliss still genuine?

I believe hell is what the people who end up there wants. Why would I not be happy, if people get what they want?

[POI]

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[POI]

I believe hell is what the people who end up there wants. Why would I not be happy, if people get what they want?

Given the dichotomy of (eternal bliss vs eternal torment), I doubt anyone would willfully volunteer for the later. Much the same as if someone is robbing you, and asking you to either (hand over your wallet vs being shot). The victim is not necessarily 'choosing' to be shot if he refuses to hand over his wallet, is he?

But you did not even address his question. Is your bliss genuine? The logical answer to the OP question is <no>.

[Clownboat]

I believe hell is what the people who end up there wants. Why would I not be happy, if people get what they want?

Matthew 13:42 ►
New International Version
They will throw them into the blazing furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

This posters beliefs are unjustified.

[1213]

I believe hell is what the people who end up there wants. Why would I not be happy, if people get what they want?

Matthew 13:42 ►
New International Version
They will throw them into the blazing furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

This posters beliefs are unjustified.

Why do you think that makes my belief wrong? Many people have said to me that they rather go to hell than be with God in eternal life.

Would you like to be with God, in His kingdom of righteousness, where there is no evil?

[1213]

I believe hell is what the people who end up there wants. Why would I not be happy, if people get what they want?

Given the dichotomy of (eternal bliss vs eternal torment), I doubt anyone would willfully volunteer for the later. Much the same as if someone is robbing you, and asking you to either (hand over your wallet vs being shot). The victim is not necessarily 'choosing' to be shot if he refuses to hand over his wallet, is he?

But you did not even address his question. Is your bliss genuine? The logical answer to the OP question is <no>.

I don't know will I be there, but I believe the bliss is genuine, because the people will understand that the situation is good, not likely what atheists imagine it to be. I believe God is good, therefore what ever He will do, will be good.

[Athetotheist]

[Replying to 1213 in post #7]

Why do you think that makes my belief wrong? Many people have said to me that they rather go to hell than be with God in eternal life.

This is about a dearly loved one who just isn't convinced of the Christian Bible's heaven-and-hell story. Does a ho-hum dismissal of someone so close make for eternal bliss?

[Athetotheist]

[Replying to 1213 in post #8]

I don't know will I be there, but I believe the bliss is genuine, because the people will understand that the situation is good, not likely what atheists imagine it to be. I believe God is good, therefore what ever He will do, will be good.

I take this to mean that you choose not to think about the question.