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For those who don't follow this subject; congress has recently been occupied taking seriously and assessing claims from whistle blowers and experts in this field that there has been a government cover up of visitation by vehicles and pilots from other worlds, some of which have been brought down by electromagnetic pulse weapons, and hidden and stored from the public from the time of the first atomic bombs, and beginning with the first atomic storage site at Roswell. A black government controlling all that is top secret behind the democratic temporary and visible government with president and political parties. This is one issue.

The other is; if multiple extra terrestrial civilizations do exist, hundreds of thousands or millions of years in advancement of ours, and are and have been monitoring earth and its occupants, how does this throw the Bibles accounts of creation out of the window?

Could an eternal God have waited from eternity past, just to put man on this planet 6000 years ago? Or is all of the above true, and are we at an age when there is about to be some outrageous evidence presented of life all over the universe to shock conventional theological belief?
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[Replying to Clownboat in post #40]

We can expect nothing better from someone who calls itself Clownboat?

I'm a genuine Arian Christian and you are a fool and tool of Satan.

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EYR wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2025 3:36 pm [Replying to Clownboat in post #40]

We can expect nothing better from someone who calls itself Clownboat?
Better than what? You forgot that part.

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I'm a genuine Arian Christian and you are a fool and tool of Satan.
You don't seem very Christian though and you make some pretty outlandish claims that would make many actual Christians blush. Therefore, I am not convinced that you are a sincere Christian.
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Ross wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2025 6:50 am
If there is something relevant in this nearly 3 hour video, please relay it. 3 hours is a lot of time to expect anyone to take out of their day just because you inserted a YouTube video on a debate platform.
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Clownboat wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2025 1:02 pm
Ross wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2025 6:50 am
If there is something relevant in this nearly 3 hour video, please relay it. 3 hours is a lot of time to expect anyone to take out of their day just because you inserted a YouTube video on a debate platform.
Simply put: If you are not interested in the topic, don't watch it.
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If this is true and comes out in all its glory in the next couple of years, it will be the biggest revelation to mankind since Jesus Christ walked the earth.

We will all have to seriously reconsider our previously held belief systems.
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Ross wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2025 1:41 pm
Clownboat wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2025 1:02 pm
Ross wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2025 6:50 am
If there is something relevant in this nearly 3 hour video, please relay it. 3 hours is a lot of time to expect anyone to take out of their day just because you inserted a YouTube video on a debate platform.
Simply put: If you are not interested in the topic, don't watch it.
You have completely failed to make it interesting. Therefore it will not be watched.
Good job debating though! :roll:
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Clownboat wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2025 3:14 pm
Ross wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2025 1:41 pm
Clownboat wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2025 1:02 pm
Ross wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2025 6:50 am
If there is something relevant in this nearly 3 hour video, please relay it. 3 hours is a lot of time to expect anyone to take out of their day just because you inserted a YouTube video on a debate platform.
Simply put: If you are not interested in the topic, don't watch it.
You have completely failed to make it interesting. Therefore it will not be watched.
Good job debating though! :roll:
Final Summary: Lou Elizondo’s Interview – A Deep Dive into UAP, NHI, and Government Secrecy
In this expansive interview, Lou Elizondo touches on a broad range of UAP (Unidentified Aerial Phenomena) and NHI (Non-Human Intelligence) topics, providing valuable insights while carefully navigating government-imposed restrictions on classified information. The discussion covers the philosophical, technological, and political implications of the UAP phenomenon, as well as potential government secrecy, intelligence operations, and ethical dilemmas.

1. Self-Reflection & Humanity’s Readiness
Elizondo emphasizes self-awareness and personal growth, stating that understanding oneself is crucial before understanding the broader mysteries of the universe. He suggests that society must mature and confront its own biases and limitations before engaging with an advanced intelligence.

Key Takeaways:

Humans have a tendency to resist self-reflection and responsibility, which affects how we interpret UAP encounters.
Bias, fear, and misinformation cloud discussions on UAPs and NHI, making open-minded exploration difficult.
2. Government Secrecy, Intelligence Manipulation, and Disinformation
Elizondo acknowledges corruption and secrecy within government institutions, stating that there are individuals within the system who actively obfuscate information, manipulate narratives, and suppress critical knowledge.

Key Takeaways:

Some elements within the government and private contractors control information on UAPs and refuse to disclose findings to Congress or the President.
Disinformation campaigns have historically been used to mislead the public and defame whistleblowers (e.g., the smearing of David Grusch).
Government secrecy is a double-edged sword—it protects national security but also enables power abuse.
3. The Reality of UAP: Advanced Technology, Surveillance, and Possible Intelligence
Elizondo confirms that the UAP phenomenon is real, heavily documented, and beyond known human capabilities. He outlines the scientific and military evidence supporting UAP encounters, stating that:

UAPs exhibit extreme acceleration, transmedium travel (air to sea), and instant maneuvers defying physics.
Hyperspectral data and military-grade tracking confirm the existence of anomalous craft.
Some UAP appear to operate with intelligence and intent, raising questions about their origin.
He remains careful not to confirm the nature or origin of UAP/NHI but suggests that there are strong indicators of external involvement beyond human technology.

4. The Underwater Connection & The “Neighbors” Hypothesis
Elizondo acknowledges that many UAP are observed entering and exiting bodies of water, leading some to believe that the phenomenon is not extraterrestrial but rather deeply tied to Earth's history.

Key Takeaways:

The ocean is a primary point of UAP activity, but it remains under-investigated due to technological limitations.
The idea that UAP have always been present on Earth is plausible—possibly even before humanity’s rise.
If UAP originate from our planet, it challenges the mainstream assumption that they are strictly extraterrestrial.
5. The Ethical Dilemma: Cattle & Human Mutilations
Elizondo confirms that cattle mutilations are real and investigated by government agencies. He hesitates to speak on human mutilation cases, but his reluctance to outright dismiss them raises serious questions.

Key Takeaways:

Cattle mutilations exhibit unnatural precision, blood loss without pooling, and highly advanced surgical techniques.
While human cases are far less discussed, there may be evidence of human biological effects tied to UAP encounters (e.g., radiation burns, neurological damage).
If NHI are conducting biological studies, it raises concerns about their intent and how humanity should respond diplomatically.
6. NHI: Are They Already Among Us?
Elizondo refuses to confirm or deny direct contact with NHI, but he hints at the possibility of camouflage or assimilation techniques. He suggests that:

Blending in is a natural evolutionary tactic used by both humans and animals (e.g., spies, special forces, camouflage).
If NHI were present, they might not want to announce themselves in an obvious way.
While he avoids confirming the existence of hybrids, he does not dismiss the possibility outright.
7. The 2027 Speculation – A Manufactured Narrative?
Elizondo distances himself from 2027-related rumors, clarifying that he never predicted a major event. However, he does confirm:

Some government analysts anticipated an event based on observational data, though it was never officially confirmed.
He cautions against doomsday predictions, as history has shown that fear-based speculation often leads to misinformation.
The internet distorts narratives—Elizondo warns against trusting "clipped interviews" that create false impressions.
8. The Future: Disclosure, The Age of Secrecy, and What’s Next
Elizondo hints at upcoming disclosures, including the release of "The Age of Disclosure" documentary, which will feature new testimony from high-ranking officials.

Key Takeaways:

Some witnesses who have never spoken publicly before will appear in the film.
The documentary is expected to “move the needle” but will not immediately provide all answers.
The slow "drip" of disclosure is intentional—Elizondo suggests that the conversation is shifting in the right direction, but full transparency is not guaranteed yet.
Final Conclusion: The Big Picture
This interview reinforces several critical themes in the UAP/NHI discussion:

✔ UAP are real, documented, and beyond known human technology.
✔ Some form of non-human intelligence may be present, but its origins and intent remain unclear.
✔ Government secrecy, disinformation, and intelligence operations play a major role in withholding information from the public.
✔ The ocean may hold critical answers, as UAP frequently interact with water environments.
✔ Biological studies—whether on animals or humans—pose serious ethical and diplomatic concerns.
✔ Speculation about 2027 should be met with skepticism, as Elizondo never made such claims.
✔ A slow and careful process of disclosure is underway, but the full truth remains elusive.

Elizondo walks a fine line, balancing what he can reveal, what he hints at, and what he refuses to confirm outright. His reluctance on certain topics speaks volumes, indicating that the UAP conversation is far from over—and that the next phase of disclosure may be more controversial than ever.
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An immaterial nothing creating a material something is as logically sound as square circles and married bachelors.


Unjustified Fact Claim(UFC) example - belief (of any sort) based on personal subjective experience. (Belief-based belief)
Justified Fact Claim(JFC) Example, The Earth is spherical in shape. (Knowledge-based belief)
Irrefutable Fact Claim (IFC) Example Humans in general experience some level of self-awareness. (Knowledge-based knowledge)

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