Christians: Does this embarrass you?

[Avoice]

Christians: Do you ever feel like you have been left 'holding the bag' having to defend the Christian Testament? Forced to come up with all sorts of torturous explanations to defend the writings of your religion? Respond to the following:
EXAMPLE:

BELOW IS QUOTE FROM GALATIONS AND THE PASSAGE IN GENESIS THAT GALATIANS REFERS TO.

"But the promises were spoken to Abraham and his seed. He does not say, And unto seeds, as of many; but as of one; And thy seed, which is Christ."

"Sojourn in this land, and I will be with thee, and will bless thee; for unto thee, and unto thy seed, I will give all these countries, and I will perform the oath which I sware unto Abraham thy father. And I will make thy seed to multiply as the stars of heaven, and will give unto thy seed all these countries; and in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed"

THE CLAIM: Galatians claims that it says seed not seeds. Therefore it means one seed meaning Jesus.
THE PROBLEM: In Hebrew, the word seed is written the same in the singular and the plural: ZERA. The same way the word sheep in English is the same for singular and plural.

THE QUESTION FOR CHRISTIANS: How do you defend Galations that claims if it meant more than one seed it would have said it. As if the word ZERA would say ZERAS if it meant plural. NO IT WOULDNT.
How does it feel having to conjuring up some explanation to save the ignorant writer of Galatians who didn't know that the word seed in Hebrew is the same in singular and in the plural

CHRISTIANS: YOU HAVE BEEN DECEIVED. ARE YOU ANGRY WITH ME FOR SHOWING YOU OR ANGRY THAT THE WRITER OF GALATIANS USED DECEPTION TO MAKE YOU BELIEVE?

[Athetotheist]

[Replying to Athetotheist in post #17]


Best find Jehovah now while you can.

Again, not much of a rebuttal.

[Clownboat]

[Replying to Avoice in post #1]


Imagine an athiest thinking he can decipher Gods truth from the bible.

It is not logical that an all powerful and all knowing God would create a message meant for everyone, but then require pastors, priests and theologians to then interpret the said message.
What is even stranger is to think that you must first be a believer in Allah and his prophet Muhammed before you can decipher the Quran. Nonsense is what nonsense is though.

Personally, I think you should threaten my eternal soul with going to hell or offer me a ticket to heaven. Maybe that will work in place of debating.

[servant1]

[Replying to Clownboat in post #22]


Yes one single religion has Jesus leading it. Through these-Matt 24:45 truths are revealed at the proper time. Humans understand the simple milk found in the bible, but the meat one must be taught by these-Matt 24:45 or remain in darkness.

[Athetotheist]

[Replying to servant1 in post #23]

Yes one single religion has Jesus leading it. Through these-Matt 24:45 truths are revealed at the proper time. Humans understand the simple milk found in the bible, but the meat one must be taught by these-Matt 24:45 or remain in darkness.

Do you have any meat to offer on why Galatians claims that "zera" in Jehovah's promises to Abram means one when the text of Genesis has it referring to multiple things?

[1213]

[Replying to 1213 in post #18]

Maybe in this case it can mean just Isaac, or Ishmael. I believe in the end Jesus is the king of Jews, the land also belongs to him and therefore it was ultimately about Jesus, or at least that is why Paul said what he said.

When Jehovah promises to make Abram's seed as numerous as dust particles and stars, does the text ever single out Isaac or Ishmael?

I think it would be interesting to know what a Jew would say to that.

But, because the word seed could in this case mean just one seed, I think Paul's idea is not necessary wrong.

[Athetotheist]

[Replying to 1213 in post #25]

I think it would be interesting to know what a Jew would say to that.

That's why I consulted a Jew back in post #8.

But, because the word seed could in this case mean just one seed, I think Paul's idea is not necessary wrong.

You're simply stating that it could mean just one when the text of Genesis links "seed" to examples of many and never specifies one to which it supposedly refers.

[Clownboat]

[Replying to Clownboat in post #22]


Yes one single religion has Jesus leading it. Through these-Matt 24:45 truths are revealed at the proper time. Humans understand the simple milk found in the bible, but the meat one must be taught by these-Matt 24:45 or remain in darkness.

I have read the Bible and what you say is found to be a falsehood, sorry. "But the Bible says" Is not justification for spreading untruths. Consider trying to be a better human.

Furthermore, your God did not give you the spirit of fear, but a spirit of love and a sound mind.
Why are you so afraid to respond to things I say? Or are you not afraid and your just a rude human, or something else I haven't considered? Would Jesus approve of your fear, rudeness or other?

[servant1]

[Replying to Athetotheist in post #24]

Which text in Genesis?

[servant1]

[Replying to Clownboat in post #28]


I have no fear of you.
So then you think you know the hidden meat without being taught?

[Athetotheist]

[Replying to servant1 in post #29]

Which text in Genesis?

Do we have to go over this again as if it hadn't been gone over already?

"And I will make thy seed as the dust of the earth: so that if a man can number the dust of the earth, then shall thy seed also be numbered." (Gen. 13:16)

"And he brought him forth abroad, and said, Look now toward heaven, and tell the stars, if thou be able to number them: and he said unto him, So shall thy seed be." (Gen. 15:5)