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American religions

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Which American religion should I pick?

Seventh Day Adventist

Mormonism

Jehovahs Witness

Are there any more? Which one is correct?
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Re: American religions

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I regard everyone as in a religion, based on the necessity of it. Can you identify the one you are in now?
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Re: American religions

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Wootah wrote: Mon Jan 13, 2025 4:36 pm [Replying to Clownboat in post #40]

I regard everyone as in a religion, based on the necessity of it. Can you identify the one you are in now?
I gave you the definition of 'religion' that I was using and it does not apply to me. Therefore, you must be using some other definition. Please provide your definition of 'religion' and I'll let you know if it applies to me.

For the record:
re·li·gion
/rəˈlij(ə)n/
noun
the belief in and worship of a superhuman power or powers, especially a God or gods.
You can give a man a fish and he will be fed for a day, or you can teach a man to pray for fish and he will starve to death.

I blame man for codifying those rules into a book which allowed superstitious people to perpetuate a barbaric practice. Rules that must be followed or face an invisible beings wrath. - KenRU

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Re: American religions

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Clownboat wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2025 1:50 pm
Wootah wrote: Mon Jan 13, 2025 4:36 pm [Replying to Clownboat in post #40]

I regard everyone as in a religion, based on the necessity of it. Can you identify the one you are in now?
I gave you the definition of 'religion' that I was using and it does not apply to me. Therefore, you must be using some other definition. Please provide your definition of 'religion' and I'll let you know if it applies to me.

For the record:
re·li·gion
/rəˈlij(ə)n/
noun
the belief in and worship of a superhuman power or powers, especially a God or gods.
A religion is a subset of the group of ideologies. An ideology is any ideal that people have as their highest good.
Proverbs 18:17 The one who states his case first seems right, until the other comes and examines him.

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Re: American religions

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Wootah wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2025 4:55 pm
Clownboat wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2025 1:50 pm
Wootah wrote: Mon Jan 13, 2025 4:36 pm [Replying to Clownboat in post #40]

I regard everyone as in a religion, based on the necessity of it. Can you identify the one you are in now?
I gave you the definition of 'religion' that I was using and it does not apply to me. Therefore, you must be using some other definition. Please provide your definition of 'religion' and I'll let you know if it applies to me.

For the record:
re·li·gion
/rəˈlij(ə)n/
noun
the belief in and worship of a superhuman power or powers, especially a God or gods.
A religion is a subset of the group of ideologies. An ideology is any ideal that people have as their highest good.
I must admit, I can't really get behind either of those definitions, but I'll try to grant them and provide an answer best I can.

My family seeing me as a good man. Them being proud of me. I've tried to give them a good name and a good reputation and don't want to screw that up.
That 'ideal' as you use it would be my standard of highest good if I'm getting you right.

There would be other 'ideals' as well, but you asked about what would be the highest good...

My question to you was:
"Why do you think that humans have been creating religions/gods for so long and still to this day?"
You can give a man a fish and he will be fed for a day, or you can teach a man to pray for fish and he will starve to death.

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Re: American religions

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[Replying to Clownboat in post #44]

God is real. Hence religion.

Devil is real. Hence religions.
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Re: American religions

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Wootah wrote: Wed Jan 15, 2025 1:45 am [Replying to Clownboat in post #44]

God is real. Hence religion.

Devil is real. Hence religions.
I hear your claims loud and clear.
Do you plan to respond to my post? What do you think of my highest ideal? Did I answer your question?
You can give a man a fish and he will be fed for a day, or you can teach a man to pray for fish and he will starve to death.

I blame man for codifying those rules into a book which allowed superstitious people to perpetuate a barbaric practice. Rules that must be followed or face an invisible beings wrath. - KenRU

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Re: American religions

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Clownboat wrote: Wed Jan 15, 2025 1:04 pm
Wootah wrote: Wed Jan 15, 2025 1:45 am [Replying to Clownboat in post #44]

God is real. Hence religion.

Devil is real. Hence religions.
I hear your claims loud and clear.
Do you plan to respond to my post? What do you think of my highest ideal? Did I answer your question?
My family seeing me as a good man. Them being proud of me. I've tried to give them a good name and a good reputation and don't want to screw that up.
That 'ideal' as you use it would be my standard of highest good if I'm getting you right.
Ancestor worship in minutae.
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Re: American religions

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Wootah wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2025 10:52 pm
Clownboat wrote: Wed Jan 15, 2025 1:04 pm
Wootah wrote: Wed Jan 15, 2025 1:45 am [Replying to Clownboat in post #44]

God is real. Hence religion.

Devil is real. Hence religions.
I hear your claims loud and clear.
Do you plan to respond to my post? What do you think of my highest ideal? Did I answer your question?
My family seeing me as a good man. Them being proud of me. I've tried to give them a good name and a good reputation and don't want to screw that up.
That 'ideal' as you use it would be my standard of highest good if I'm getting you right.
Ancestor worship in minutae.
Your sentence is unintelligible. Sorry.
You can give a man a fish and he will be fed for a day, or you can teach a man to pray for fish and he will starve to death.

I blame man for codifying those rules into a book which allowed superstitious people to perpetuate a barbaric practice. Rules that must be followed or face an invisible beings wrath. - KenRU

It is sad that in an age of freedom some people are enslaved by the nomads of old. - Marco

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Re: American religions

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Wootah wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2024 6:09 am Which American religion should I pick?

Seventh Day Adventist

Mormonism

Jehovahs Witness

Are there any more? Which one is correct?
None of these are religions and none are American. They are all branches of Christianity which is a religion. Christianity is from Judea and Christians spread to America. Christianity piggy backed off of Judaism which developed in Canaan.


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Re: American religions

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Wootah wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2024 6:09 am Which American religion should I pick?

Seventh Day Adventist

Mormonism

Jehovahs Witness

Are there any more? Which one is correct?
Hilarious :P :P :P Well all three embrace ...( how to put this politely ) ... all three embrace benightedness in a peculiar way.

Yes, there's a fourth: Heaven's Gate. It was cooked up in the USA just like the other three, and it too embraces benightedness in a peculiar way.

As far as which one is correct, depends are your definition of correct. :P

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