Please prove that souls exist and that they are either resurrected or reincarnated
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Please prove that souls exist and that they are either resurrected or reincarnated
Post #1Most religions claim that souls exist. Some religions claim that souls are immortal and are reincarnated after the death of the body while other religions claim that souls are immortal and are resurrected after the death of the body. Can anyone please prove that souls exist and are either resurrected or reincarnated? Thank you.
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Post #571Humans could not think and reason if not for their souls. How else would their random thoughts be arranged by ignorant and accidental chemical or electrical charges?Compassionist wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 12:28 pmThank you for sharing your beliefs. Can you please prove that souls exist and are resurrected?wannabe wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 11:56 am [Replying to Compassionist in post #1]
I believe that when you die , God takes control of your soul and deals with it at his discretion.
Also if a person doesn't believe they have a soul , then they can definitely look forward to a 'dead', end.
I rather look forward towards a living (and loving) new beginning.
However without a soul , I feel that a person is nothing more than an organic robot.
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Re: Please prove that souls exist and that they are either resurrected or reincarnated
Post #572Compassionist wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 12:28 pm Thank you for sharing your beliefs. Can you please prove that souls exist and are resurrected?
Now we must also thank you for sharing a belief you hold. Any chance that you have any actual arguments for the existence of souls?
A functioning mind explains this. Remove such a thing and what you ask about above is then also removed. Do you have a better explanation that is not an argument from incredulity?How else would their random thoughts be arranged by ignorant and accidental chemical or electrical charges?
An argument from incredulity is a logical fallacy that assumes something is false because it's difficult to believe, imagine, or understand. It's also known as an appeal to common sense, personal belief, personal conviction, or the divine fallacy.
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Post #573Let's approach this logically and scientifically. What forms thoughts in the human mind? Electrical impulses? Do electrical impulses have the ability to arrange thoughts and reason with others? Are thoughts formed by chemicals in the body? No, thoughts are formed by souls which leave the body at death and leave the body no longer able to think or function.Clownboat wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 1:20 pmCompassionist wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 12:28 pm Thank you for sharing your beliefs. Can you please prove that souls exist and are resurrected?Now we must also thank you for sharing a belief you hold. Any chance that you have any actual arguments for the existence of souls?
A functioning mind explains this. Remove such a thing and what you ask about above is then also removed. Do you have a better explanation that is not an argument from incredulity?How else would their random thoughts be arranged by ignorant and accidental chemical or electrical charges?
An argument from incredulity is a logical fallacy that assumes something is false because it's difficult to believe, imagine, or understand. It's also known as an appeal to common sense, personal belief, personal conviction, or the divine fallacy.
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Post #574Well, so much for approaching this logically and/or scientifically!

Just for the sake of trying to foster debate, let's say 'I don't know' to each one of your questions and see where that leads us. Logically and scientifically of course.What forms thoughts in the human mind? Electrical impulses? Do electrical impulses have the ability to arrange thoughts and reason with others?

You can give a man a fish and he will be fed for a day, or you can teach a man to pray for fish and he will starve to death.
I blame man for codifying those rules into a book which allowed superstitious people to perpetuate a barbaric practice. Rules that must be followed or face an invisible beings wrath. - KenRU
It is sad that in an age of freedom some people are enslaved by the nomads of old. - Marco
If you are unable to demonstrate that what you believe is true and you absolve yourself of the burden of proof, then what is the purpose of your arguments? - brunumb
I blame man for codifying those rules into a book which allowed superstitious people to perpetuate a barbaric practice. Rules that must be followed or face an invisible beings wrath. - KenRU
It is sad that in an age of freedom some people are enslaved by the nomads of old. - Marco
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Post #575Those who deny the spiritual aspect of humans will be left without an explanation for the source of thoughts and logic.Clownboat wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 2:31 pmWell, so much for approaching this logically and/or scientifically!![]()
Just for the sake of trying to foster debate, let's say 'I don't know' to each one of your questions and see where that leads us. Logically and scientifically of course.What forms thoughts in the human mind? Electrical impulses? Do electrical impulses have the ability to arrange thoughts and reason with others?![]()
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Post #576Demonstrably wrong, again...marke wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 4:45 pmThose who deny the spiritual aspect of humans will be left without an explanation for the source of thoughts and logic.Clownboat wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 2:31 pmWell, so much for approaching this logically and/or scientifically!![]()
Just for the sake of trying to foster debate, let's say 'I don't know' to each one of your questions and see where that leads us. Logically and scientifically of course.What forms thoughts in the human mind? Electrical impulses? Do electrical impulses have the ability to arrange thoughts and reason with others?![]()
One could deny the spiritual and then credit a functioning mind for thoughts (neurons firing in the brain which is what we already know is happening) which then form logic.
If we are being honest with each other, with this explanation, the spiritual isn't needed. However, if the cause was spiritual, we still have neurons firing which wouldn't be needed and that is a bit unnecessary and therefore odd.
You can give a man a fish and he will be fed for a day, or you can teach a man to pray for fish and he will starve to death.
I blame man for codifying those rules into a book which allowed superstitious people to perpetuate a barbaric practice. Rules that must be followed or face an invisible beings wrath. - KenRU
It is sad that in an age of freedom some people are enslaved by the nomads of old. - Marco
If you are unable to demonstrate that what you believe is true and you absolve yourself of the burden of proof, then what is the purpose of your arguments? - brunumb
I blame man for codifying those rules into a book which allowed superstitious people to perpetuate a barbaric practice. Rules that must be followed or face an invisible beings wrath. - KenRU
It is sad that in an age of freedom some people are enslaved by the nomads of old. - Marco
If you are unable to demonstrate that what you believe is true and you absolve yourself of the burden of proof, then what is the purpose of your arguments? - brunumb
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Post #577How do neurons know what to say in arguments requiring reason? Do neurons have intelligence of their own? If neurons can think on their own what then gives them that ability, random uncharted electrical charges?Clownboat wrote: ↑Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:11 pmDemonstrably wrong, again...marke wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 4:45 pmThose who deny the spiritual aspect of humans will be left without an explanation for the source of thoughts and logic.Clownboat wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 2:31 pmWell, so much for approaching this logically and/or scientifically!![]()
Just for the sake of trying to foster debate, let's say 'I don't know' to each one of your questions and see where that leads us. Logically and scientifically of course.What forms thoughts in the human mind? Electrical impulses? Do electrical impulses have the ability to arrange thoughts and reason with others?![]()
One could deny the spiritual and then credit a functioning mind for thoughts (neurons firing in the brain which is what we already know is happening) which then form logic.
If we are being honest with each other, with this explanation, the spiritual isn't needed. However, if the cause was spiritual, we still have neurons firing which wouldn't be needed and that is a bit unnecessary and therefore odd.
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Post #578marke wrote:Those who deny the spiritual aspect of humans will be left without an explanation for the source of thoughts and logic.
Clownboat wrote: ↑Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:11 pm Demonstrably wrong, again...
One could deny the spiritual and then credit a functioning mind for thoughts (neurons firing in the brain which is what we already know is happening) which then form logic.
If we are being honest with each other, with this explanation, the spiritual isn't needed. However, if the cause was spiritual, we still have neurons firing which wouldn't be needed and that is a bit unnecessary and therefore odd.
Is this you admitting that you were wrong as I demonstrated? Have you amended your thinking?marke wrote:How do neurons know what to say in arguments requiring reason? Do neurons have intelligence of their own? If neurons can think on their own what then gives them that ability, random uncharted electrical charges?
I would like to know before you move us on to another topic as I fear you offer distractions in order for you to maintain your preconceived beliefs even though they have been shown to be misplaced.
You can give a man a fish and he will be fed for a day, or you can teach a man to pray for fish and he will starve to death.
I blame man for codifying those rules into a book which allowed superstitious people to perpetuate a barbaric practice. Rules that must be followed or face an invisible beings wrath. - KenRU
It is sad that in an age of freedom some people are enslaved by the nomads of old. - Marco
If you are unable to demonstrate that what you believe is true and you absolve yourself of the burden of proof, then what is the purpose of your arguments? - brunumb
I blame man for codifying those rules into a book which allowed superstitious people to perpetuate a barbaric practice. Rules that must be followed or face an invisible beings wrath. - KenRU
It is sad that in an age of freedom some people are enslaved by the nomads of old. - Marco
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Post #579You do not explain how humans form thoughts and engage in logical discussions without the benefit of a human soul. Are thoughts formed by the wind? Is logic the product of random electrical charges?Clownboat wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2025 12:08 pmmarke wrote:Those who deny the spiritual aspect of humans will be left without an explanation for the source of thoughts and logic.Clownboat wrote: ↑Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:11 pm Demonstrably wrong, again...
One could deny the spiritual and then credit a functioning mind for thoughts (neurons firing in the brain which is what we already know is happening) which then form logic.
If we are being honest with each other, with this explanation, the spiritual isn't needed. However, if the cause was spiritual, we still have neurons firing which wouldn't be needed and that is a bit unnecessary and therefore odd.Is this you admitting that you were wrong as I demonstrated? Have you amended your thinking?marke wrote:How do neurons know what to say in arguments requiring reason? Do neurons have intelligence of their own? If neurons can think on their own what then gives them that ability, random uncharted electrical charges?
I would like to know before you move us on to another topic as I fear you offer distractions in order for you to maintain your preconceived beliefs even though they have been shown to be misplaced.
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Post #580Once again you fail to amend your thinking.marke wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2025 2:08 amYou do not explain how humans form thoughts and engage in logical discussions without the benefit of a human soul. Are thoughts formed by the wind? Is logic the product of random electrical charges?Clownboat wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2025 12:08 pmmarke wrote:Those who deny the spiritual aspect of humans will be left without an explanation for the source of thoughts and logic.Clownboat wrote: ↑Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:11 pm Demonstrably wrong, again...
One could deny the spiritual and then credit a functioning mind for thoughts (neurons firing in the brain which is what we already know is happening) which then form logic.
If we are being honest with each other, with this explanation, the spiritual isn't needed. However, if the cause was spiritual, we still have neurons firing which wouldn't be needed and that is a bit unnecessary and therefore odd.Is this you admitting that you were wrong as I demonstrated? Have you amended your thinking?marke wrote:How do neurons know what to say in arguments requiring reason? Do neurons have intelligence of their own? If neurons can think on their own what then gives them that ability, random uncharted electrical charges?
I would like to know before you move us on to another topic as I fear you offer distractions in order for you to maintain your preconceived beliefs even though they have been shown to be misplaced.
You said: "Those who deny the spiritual aspect of humans will be left without an explanation for the source of thoughts and logic."
You were shown to be incorrect. Have you corrected your thinking or found a way to challenge how I showed your words to be wrong?
Furthermore, even if we were to pretend that we don't know how thoughts work, that would not mean that there is a soul. Do you understand this?
You can give a man a fish and he will be fed for a day, or you can teach a man to pray for fish and he will starve to death.
I blame man for codifying those rules into a book which allowed superstitious people to perpetuate a barbaric practice. Rules that must be followed or face an invisible beings wrath. - KenRU
It is sad that in an age of freedom some people are enslaved by the nomads of old. - Marco
If you are unable to demonstrate that what you believe is true and you absolve yourself of the burden of proof, then what is the purpose of your arguments? - brunumb
I blame man for codifying those rules into a book which allowed superstitious people to perpetuate a barbaric practice. Rules that must be followed or face an invisible beings wrath. - KenRU
It is sad that in an age of freedom some people are enslaved by the nomads of old. - Marco
If you are unable to demonstrate that what you believe is true and you absolve yourself of the burden of proof, then what is the purpose of your arguments? - brunumb