Haven't we all, at one time or another, wondered what the future will be like? Experts of men have had a spotty reputation as most of their predictions have proved untrue.
What does the Bible tell us? "The God of heaven will set up a kingdom which shall never be destroyed....It shall break in pieces all these kingdoms and bring them to an end, and it shall stand forever." (Daniel 2:44, Revised Standard Version)
Is this good news? Of course, when we realize what God's Kingdom is. It is a real government that will replace all of the existing governments on the earth and stand forever. Stability and order will be brought to people on the earth. What will life be like under this government?
NO MORE WAR (Psalm 46:9)
NO MORE SICKNESS (Isaiah 33:24)
NO MORE FOOD SHORTAGE (Psalm 72:16)
NO MORE PAIN, SORROW AND DEATH (Revelation 21:4)
These are just some of the promises made in the Bible about God's Kingdom, and there are more. God has promised all these wonderful things for the future. All righteously inclined people can avail themselves of these promises. Does this sound good to you?
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Post #181After 1,000 years in heaven (Rev 21:2,3) Holy City new Jerusalem coming down from heaven.onewithhim wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 1:13 pmIf they are believers they would not be cast out by Jesus. You say that not all believers will be going to heaven. I agree. But where will they spend eternity? I believe that they will be living right here on the earth forever, in paradise conditions.Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Sep 21, 2024 1:55 amYes, not all believers shall enter into the kingdom of heaven.onewithhim wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2024 7:23 pmSo would you agree that not all believers will be going to heaven? Would you agree that not all believers will be spirits?Capbook wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2024 4:13 amI've already answer Psalms 37:9,11 and 29 with corresponding verses in Revelation in my post #171.onewithhim wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2024 11:35 am.onewithhim wrote: ↑Sun Sep 08, 2024 7:34 pmWhat about Psalm 37: 9,11 and 29?Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Sep 07, 2024 1:34 amYes, that is the place prepared by Jesus for the believers. And no sinners will be in that place.onewithhim wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2024 12:28 pm [Replying to Capbook in post #171]
Yes, the last enemy to be destroyed is death.
What the beautiful future can mean for you: Meaningful and satisfying work (Isaiah 65:21-23); No more sickness or suffering of any kind (Isaiah 25:8; 33:24); A happy, unending life with family and friends (Psalm 37:11, 29). Can we believe what the Bible says? God has the desire to make His promises come true. He has a longing to restore life to people who have died (Job 14:14,15). The Bible also shows that God's Son, Jesus, healed the sick. Why? He perfectly reflected God's personality by his desire to help those in need. He really wanted to, and so does God, his Father. So we can be sure that both God [Jehovah] and Jesus want to help us to enjoy a happy future! (Psalm 72:12-14; 145:16; 2 Peter 3:9)
So how will this come about? The question is answered at Matthew 6:9,10 and Daniel 2:44. God's Kingdom--His own government by Christ who will rule with love, mercy and justice. Do you believe this?
John 14:1-3
14 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.
2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.
KJV
But for your ready reference, I post this again and I numbered it now . Please see it below;
1. Yes, (Ps 37:9) that is after the 1,000 years, evildoers will be cut off. (Rev 20:9) Devoured.
2. And yes, (Ps 37:11) those who wait upon the Lord shall inherit the earth. (Rev 21:4,10) New Jerusalem descending out of heaven. No more tears, no more sorrow, no more pain, no more death, as death was cast into the lake of fire.
3. And yes, (Ps 37:29) the righteous shall inherit the land, and dwell therein for ever. (Rev 21:2) New Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven. (v.24) The nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory.
Ps 37:9
9 For evildoers shall be cut off: but those that wait upon the Lord, they shall inherit the earth.
KJV
Rev 20:9
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
KJV
Rev 21:2-4
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
KJV
Rev 21:24
And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.
KJV
"For evildoers shall be cut off: but those that wait upon the LORD, they shall inherit the earth....The meek shall inherit the earth; and shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace....The righteous shall inherit the land, and dwell therein for ever." (Psalm 37: 9,11,29, KJV)
Where do you say these believers will spend eternity?
And will spend eternity in the earth.
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Post #182But you said, "Not all believers shall enter into the kingdom of heaven." Those are you very words. So how can they go to heaven for 1,000 years?Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2024 4:14 amAfter 1,000 years in heaven (Rev 21:2,3) Holy City new Jerusalem coming down from heaven.onewithhim wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 1:13 pmIf they are believers they would not be cast out by Jesus. You say that not all believers will be going to heaven. I agree. But where will they spend eternity? I believe that they will be living right here on the earth forever, in paradise conditions.Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Sep 21, 2024 1:55 amYes, not all believers shall enter into the kingdom of heaven.onewithhim wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2024 7:23 pmSo would you agree that not all believers will be going to heaven? Would you agree that not all believers will be spirits?Capbook wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2024 4:13 amI've already answer Psalms 37:9,11 and 29 with corresponding verses in Revelation in my post #171.onewithhim wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2024 11:35 am.onewithhim wrote: ↑Sun Sep 08, 2024 7:34 pmWhat about Psalm 37: 9,11 and 29?Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Sep 07, 2024 1:34 amYes, that is the place prepared by Jesus for the believers. And no sinners will be in that place.onewithhim wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2024 12:28 pm [Replying to Capbook in post #171]
Yes, the last enemy to be destroyed is death.
What the beautiful future can mean for you: Meaningful and satisfying work (Isaiah 65:21-23); No more sickness or suffering of any kind (Isaiah 25:8; 33:24); A happy, unending life with family and friends (Psalm 37:11, 29). Can we believe what the Bible says? God has the desire to make His promises come true. He has a longing to restore life to people who have died (Job 14:14,15). The Bible also shows that God's Son, Jesus, healed the sick. Why? He perfectly reflected God's personality by his desire to help those in need. He really wanted to, and so does God, his Father. So we can be sure that both God [Jehovah] and Jesus want to help us to enjoy a happy future! (Psalm 72:12-14; 145:16; 2 Peter 3:9)
So how will this come about? The question is answered at Matthew 6:9,10 and Daniel 2:44. God's Kingdom--His own government by Christ who will rule with love, mercy and justice. Do you believe this?
John 14:1-3
14 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.
2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.
KJV
But for your ready reference, I post this again and I numbered it now . Please see it below;
1. Yes, (Ps 37:9) that is after the 1,000 years, evildoers will be cut off. (Rev 20:9) Devoured.
2. And yes, (Ps 37:11) those who wait upon the Lord shall inherit the earth. (Rev 21:4,10) New Jerusalem descending out of heaven. No more tears, no more sorrow, no more pain, no more death, as death was cast into the lake of fire.
3. And yes, (Ps 37:29) the righteous shall inherit the land, and dwell therein for ever. (Rev 21:2) New Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven. (v.24) The nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory.
Ps 37:9
9 For evildoers shall be cut off: but those that wait upon the Lord, they shall inherit the earth.
KJV
Rev 20:9
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
KJV
Rev 21:2-4
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
KJV
Rev 21:24
And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.
KJV
"For evildoers shall be cut off: but those that wait upon the LORD, they shall inherit the earth....The meek shall inherit the earth; and shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace....The righteous shall inherit the land, and dwell therein for ever." (Psalm 37: 9,11,29, KJV)
Where do you say these believers will spend eternity?
And will spend eternity in the earth.
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Post #183onewithhim wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 1:13 pmIf they are believers they would not be cast out by Jesus. You say that not all believers will be going to heaven. I agree. But where will they spend eternity? I believe that they will be living right here on the earth forever, in paradise conditions.Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Sep 21, 2024 1:55 amYes, not all believers shall enter into the kingdom of heaven.onewithhim wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2024 7:23 pmSo would you agree that not all believers will be going to heaven? Would you agree that not all believers will be spirits?Capbook wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2024 4:13 amI've already answer Psalms 37:9,11 and 29 with corresponding verses in Revelation in my post #171.onewithhim wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2024 11:35 am.onewithhim wrote: ↑Sun Sep 08, 2024 7:34 pmWhat about Psalm 37: 9,11 and 29?Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Sep 07, 2024 1:34 amYes, that is the place prepared by Jesus for the believers. And no sinners will be in that place.onewithhim wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2024 12:28 pm [Replying to Capbook in post #171]
Yes, the last enemy to be destroyed is death.
What the beautiful future can mean for you: Meaningful and satisfying work (Isaiah 65:21-23); No more sickness or suffering of any kind (Isaiah 25:8; 33:24); A happy, unending life with family and friends (Psalm 37:11, 29). Can we believe what the Bible says? God has the desire to make His promises come true. He has a longing to restore life to people who have died (Job 14:14,15). The Bible also shows that God's Son, Jesus, healed the sick. Why? He perfectly reflected God's personality by his desire to help those in need. He really wanted to, and so does God, his Father. So we can be sure that both God [Jehovah] and Jesus want to help us to enjoy a happy future! (Psalm 72:12-14; 145:16; 2 Peter 3:9)
So how will this come about? The question is answered at Matthew 6:9,10 and Daniel 2:44. God's Kingdom--His own government by Christ who will rule with love, mercy and justice. Do you believe this?
John 14:1-3
14 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.
2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.
KJV
But for your ready reference, I post this again and I numbered it now . Please see it below;
1. Yes, (Ps 37:9) that is after the 1,000 years, evildoers will be cut off. (Rev 20:9) Devoured.
2. And yes, (Ps 37:11) those who wait upon the Lord shall inherit the earth. (Rev 21:4,10) New Jerusalem descending out of heaven. No more tears, no more sorrow, no more pain, no more death, as death was cast into the lake of fire.
3. And yes, (Ps 37:29) the righteous shall inherit the land, and dwell therein for ever. (Rev 21:2) New Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven. (v.24) The nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory.
Ps 37:9
9 For evildoers shall be cut off: but those that wait upon the Lord, they shall inherit the earth.
KJV
Rev 20:9
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
KJV
Rev 21:2-4
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
KJV
Rev 21:24
And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.
KJV
"For evildoers shall be cut off: but those that wait upon the LORD, they shall inherit the earth....The meek shall inherit the earth; and shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace....The righteous shall inherit the land, and dwell therein for ever." (Psalm 37: 9,11,29, KJV)
Where do you say these believers will spend eternity?
The earthly world is not presently part of the Kingdom of Heaven. It is basically a colony which has rebelled under Satan and some of his angels and broken away from the kingdom. However, the kingdoms of this world will once again become the kingdoms of our Lord and Christ:
The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever. (Revelation 11:15)
The earth will once again become part of the Kingdom of Heaven. It will not be heaven but will be under God's rule and part of the Kingdom of Heaven as is heaven itself. This will occur when Jesus returns to take back control of the earth from Satan. And how long does Jesus our Lord intend to reign on the earth?
The Lord shall reign for ever and ever. (Exodus 15:18)
The Lord shall reign for ever... (Psalm 146:10)
And they shall reign for ever and ever. (Revelation 22:5)
And what are the born again Christians going to be doing after Jesus' return?
We shall also reign with him. (II Timothy 2:12)
And how long are the born again Christians going to be with the Lord Jesus?
Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. (I Thessalonians 4:17)
Where will Jesus base His rule and locate His tabernacle to rule the earth? The holy city of Jerusalem:
And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. (Revelation 21:2-3)
New Jerusalem is part of what Jesus has been preparing for us over the past two thousand years. He will bring it down from heaven upon His return.
Since Jesus is going to rule the earth forever from new Jerusalem, and we will rule with Him, and be with Him forever, where does that place us forever and ever?
On the earth, which will rejoin the Kingdom of Heaven!
Our prayer will be answered:
Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven. (Matthew 6:10)
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Post #184[Replying to myth-one.com in post #183]
It is true that when Jesus comes at Armageddon all of God's enemies will be annihilated and the believers still on earth will go through the war between Jesus and Satan's minions unscathed and will then embark on a beautiful journey of everlasting life in Paradise on Earth. The believers who were anointed to go to heaven will have left the earth prior to Armageddon. So a relatively small group of Christians will be in heaven when Armageddon hits, and the majority of believers will remain on the earth to enjoy Paradise, as God planned in the beginning.
It is true that when Jesus comes at Armageddon all of God's enemies will be annihilated and the believers still on earth will go through the war between Jesus and Satan's minions unscathed and will then embark on a beautiful journey of everlasting life in Paradise on Earth. The believers who were anointed to go to heaven will have left the earth prior to Armageddon. So a relatively small group of Christians will be in heaven when Armageddon hits, and the majority of believers will remain on the earth to enjoy Paradise, as God planned in the beginning.
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Post #185These are the believers that doeth iniquity (Mat 7:22,23) that will be devoured by fire after the 1,000 years. (Rev 20:7-9)onewithhim wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2024 7:00 pmBut you said, "Not all believers shall enter into the kingdom of heaven." Those are you very words. So how can they go to heaven for 1,000 years?Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2024 4:14 amAfter 1,000 years in heaven (Rev 21:2,3) Holy City new Jerusalem coming down from heaven.onewithhim wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 1:13 pmIf they are believers they would not be cast out by Jesus. You say that not all believers will be going to heaven. I agree. But where will they spend eternity? I believe that they will be living right here on the earth forever, in paradise conditions.Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Sep 21, 2024 1:55 amYes, not all believers shall enter into the kingdom of heaven.onewithhim wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2024 7:23 pmSo would you agree that not all believers will be going to heaven? Would you agree that not all believers will be spirits?Capbook wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2024 4:13 amI've already answer Psalms 37:9,11 and 29 with corresponding verses in Revelation in my post #171.onewithhim wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2024 11:35 am.onewithhim wrote: ↑Sun Sep 08, 2024 7:34 pmWhat about Psalm 37: 9,11 and 29?Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Sep 07, 2024 1:34 amYes, that is the place prepared by Jesus for the believers. And no sinners will be in that place.onewithhim wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2024 12:28 pm [Replying to Capbook in post #171]
Yes, the last enemy to be destroyed is death.
What the beautiful future can mean for you: Meaningful and satisfying work (Isaiah 65:21-23); No more sickness or suffering of any kind (Isaiah 25:8; 33:24); A happy, unending life with family and friends (Psalm 37:11, 29). Can we believe what the Bible says? God has the desire to make His promises come true. He has a longing to restore life to people who have died (Job 14:14,15). The Bible also shows that God's Son, Jesus, healed the sick. Why? He perfectly reflected God's personality by his desire to help those in need. He really wanted to, and so does God, his Father. So we can be sure that both God [Jehovah] and Jesus want to help us to enjoy a happy future! (Psalm 72:12-14; 145:16; 2 Peter 3:9)
So how will this come about? The question is answered at Matthew 6:9,10 and Daniel 2:44. God's Kingdom--His own government by Christ who will rule with love, mercy and justice. Do you believe this?
John 14:1-3
14 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.
2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.
KJV
But for your ready reference, I post this again and I numbered it now . Please see it below;
1. Yes, (Ps 37:9) that is after the 1,000 years, evildoers will be cut off. (Rev 20:9) Devoured.
2. And yes, (Ps 37:11) those who wait upon the Lord shall inherit the earth. (Rev 21:4,10) New Jerusalem descending out of heaven. No more tears, no more sorrow, no more pain, no more death, as death was cast into the lake of fire.
3. And yes, (Ps 37:29) the righteous shall inherit the land, and dwell therein for ever. (Rev 21:2) New Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven. (v.24) The nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory.
Ps 37:9
9 For evildoers shall be cut off: but those that wait upon the Lord, they shall inherit the earth.
KJV
Rev 20:9
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
KJV
Rev 21:2-4
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
KJV
Rev 21:24
And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.
KJV
"For evildoers shall be cut off: but those that wait upon the LORD, they shall inherit the earth....The meek shall inherit the earth; and shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace....The righteous shall inherit the land, and dwell therein for ever." (Psalm 37: 9,11,29, KJV)
Where do you say these believers will spend eternity?
And will spend eternity in the earth.
Who many are them? They are the nations deceived by Satan in the four quarters of the earth.
How many are them? The number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
They will suffer the second death, where there will be no more resurrection.
Mat 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
Mat 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Rev 20:7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
Rev 20:8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
Rev 20:9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
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Post #186Yes, being "devoured" is to be completely gone, and the fire from heaven would be the same as the "lake of fire." They both signify total destruction.Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Oct 19, 2024 2:53 pmThese are the believers that doeth iniquity (Mat 7:22,23) that will be devoured by fire after the 1,000 years. (Rev 20:7-9)onewithhim wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2024 7:00 pmBut you said, "Not all believers shall enter into the kingdom of heaven." Those are you very words. So how can they go to heaven for 1,000 years?Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2024 4:14 amAfter 1,000 years in heaven (Rev 21:2,3) Holy City new Jerusalem coming down from heaven.onewithhim wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 1:13 pmIf they are believers they would not be cast out by Jesus. You say that not all believers will be going to heaven. I agree. But where will they spend eternity? I believe that they will be living right here on the earth forever, in paradise conditions.Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Sep 21, 2024 1:55 amYes, not all believers shall enter into the kingdom of heaven.onewithhim wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2024 7:23 pmSo would you agree that not all believers will be going to heaven? Would you agree that not all believers will be spirits?Capbook wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2024 4:13 amI've already answer Psalms 37:9,11 and 29 with corresponding verses in Revelation in my post #171.onewithhim wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2024 11:35 am.onewithhim wrote: ↑Sun Sep 08, 2024 7:34 pmWhat about Psalm 37: 9,11 and 29?Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Sep 07, 2024 1:34 am
Yes, that is the place prepared by Jesus for the believers. And no sinners will be in that place.
John 14:1-3
14 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.
2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.
KJV
But for your ready reference, I post this again and I numbered it now . Please see it below;
1. Yes, (Ps 37:9) that is after the 1,000 years, evildoers will be cut off. (Rev 20:9) Devoured.
2. And yes, (Ps 37:11) those who wait upon the Lord shall inherit the earth. (Rev 21:4,10) New Jerusalem descending out of heaven. No more tears, no more sorrow, no more pain, no more death, as death was cast into the lake of fire.
3. And yes, (Ps 37:29) the righteous shall inherit the land, and dwell therein for ever. (Rev 21:2) New Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven. (v.24) The nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory.
Ps 37:9
9 For evildoers shall be cut off: but those that wait upon the Lord, they shall inherit the earth.
KJV
Rev 20:9
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
KJV
Rev 21:2-4
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
KJV
Rev 21:24
And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.
KJV
"For evildoers shall be cut off: but those that wait upon the LORD, they shall inherit the earth....The meek shall inherit the earth; and shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace....The righteous shall inherit the land, and dwell therein for ever." (Psalm 37: 9,11,29, KJV)
Where do you say these believers will spend eternity?
And will spend eternity in the earth.
Who many are them? They are the nations deceived by Satan in the four quarters of the earth.
How many are them? The number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
They will suffer the second death, where there will be no more resurrection.
Mat 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
Mat 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Rev 20:7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
Rev 20:8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
Rev 20:9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
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Post #187Yes, total destruction by death. (Ezek 28:18)onewithhim wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2024 7:37 pmYes, being "devoured" is to be completely gone, and the fire from heaven would be the same as the "lake of fire." They both signify total destruction.Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Oct 19, 2024 2:53 pmThese are the believers that doeth iniquity (Mat 7:22,23) that will be devoured by fire after the 1,000 years. (Rev 20:7-9)onewithhim wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2024 7:00 pmBut you said, "Not all believers shall enter into the kingdom of heaven." Those are you very words. So how can they go to heaven for 1,000 years?Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2024 4:14 amAfter 1,000 years in heaven (Rev 21:2,3) Holy City new Jerusalem coming down from heaven.onewithhim wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 1:13 pmIf they are believers they would not be cast out by Jesus. You say that not all believers will be going to heaven. I agree. But where will they spend eternity? I believe that they will be living right here on the earth forever, in paradise conditions.Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Sep 21, 2024 1:55 amYes, not all believers shall enter into the kingdom of heaven.onewithhim wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2024 7:23 pmSo would you agree that not all believers will be going to heaven? Would you agree that not all believers will be spirits?Capbook wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2024 4:13 amI've already answer Psalms 37:9,11 and 29 with corresponding verses in Revelation in my post #171.
But for your ready reference, I post this again and I numbered it now . Please see it below;
1. Yes, (Ps 37:9) that is after the 1,000 years, evildoers will be cut off. (Rev 20:9) Devoured.
2. And yes, (Ps 37:11) those who wait upon the Lord shall inherit the earth. (Rev 21:4,10) New Jerusalem descending out of heaven. No more tears, no more sorrow, no more pain, no more death, as death was cast into the lake of fire.
3. And yes, (Ps 37:29) the righteous shall inherit the land, and dwell therein for ever. (Rev 21:2) New Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven. (v.24) The nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory.
Ps 37:9
9 For evildoers shall be cut off: but those that wait upon the Lord, they shall inherit the earth.
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Rev 20:9
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
KJV
Rev 21:2-4
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
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Rev 21:24
And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.
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"For evildoers shall be cut off: but those that wait upon the LORD, they shall inherit the earth....The meek shall inherit the earth; and shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace....The righteous shall inherit the land, and dwell therein for ever." (Psalm 37: 9,11,29, KJV)
Where do you say these believers will spend eternity?
And will spend eternity in the earth.
Who many are them? They are the nations deceived by Satan in the four quarters of the earth.
How many are them? The number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
They will suffer the second death, where there will be no more resurrection.
Mat 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
Mat 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Rev 20:7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
Rev 20:8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
Rev 20:9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
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Post #188[Replying to Capbook in post #187]
It is wonderful, is it not? that we don't have to worry about anything as long as we are putting our trust in Jehovah and obeying Him. Mankind has an incredible future ahead right here on this beautiful planet.
"Trust in Jehovah with all your heart and do not lean upon your own understanding. In all your ways take notice of him, and he will make your paths straight." (Proverbs 3:5,6)
"And now if you will strictly obey my voice,... then you will certainly become my special property out of all other peoples, because the whole earth belongs to me." (Exodus 19:5 words from Jehovah)
"He will wipe away every tear from their eyes; and there will no longer be any death; there will no longer be any mourning, or crying, or pain; the first things have passed away." (Revelation 21:4, NASB)
"A generation goes and a generation comes, but the earth remains forever. (Ecclesiastes 1:4, NASB) "The meek shall inherit the earth; and shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace....The righteous shall inherit the land, and dwell therein for ever." (Psalm 37: 11,29, KJV)
It is wonderful, is it not? that we don't have to worry about anything as long as we are putting our trust in Jehovah and obeying Him. Mankind has an incredible future ahead right here on this beautiful planet.
"Trust in Jehovah with all your heart and do not lean upon your own understanding. In all your ways take notice of him, and he will make your paths straight." (Proverbs 3:5,6)
"And now if you will strictly obey my voice,... then you will certainly become my special property out of all other peoples, because the whole earth belongs to me." (Exodus 19:5 words from Jehovah)
"He will wipe away every tear from their eyes; and there will no longer be any death; there will no longer be any mourning, or crying, or pain; the first things have passed away." (Revelation 21:4, NASB)
"A generation goes and a generation comes, but the earth remains forever. (Ecclesiastes 1:4, NASB) "The meek shall inherit the earth; and shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace....The righteous shall inherit the land, and dwell therein for ever." (Psalm 37: 11,29, KJV)
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Post #189Yes, I think we are one in what I colored blue above, "earth" as land.onewithhim wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2024 2:43 pm [Replying to Capbook in post #187]
It is wonderful, is it not? that we don't have to worry about anything as long as we are putting our trust in Jehovah and obeying Him. Mankind has an incredible future ahead right here on this beautiful planet.
"Trust in Jehovah with all your heart and do not lean upon your own understanding. In all your ways take notice of him, and he will make your paths straight." (Proverbs 3:5,6)
"And now if you will strictly obey my voice,... then you will certainly become my special property out of all other peoples, because the whole earth belongs to me." (Exodus 19:5 words from Jehovah)
"He will wipe away every tear from their eyes; and there will no longer be any death; there will no longer be any mourning, or crying, or pain; the first things have passed away." (Revelation 21:4, NASB)
"A generation goes and a generation comes, but the earth remains forever. (Ecclesiastes 1:4, NASB) "The meek shall inherit the earth; and shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace....The righteous shall inherit the land, and dwell therein for ever." (Psalm 37: 11,29, KJV)
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Post #190Yes, those hoping in Jesus and Jehovah will inherit the earth and live on it forever. (In this case the "earth" does mean "land.")Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Nov 16, 2024 1:26 pmYes, I think we are one in what I colored blue above, "earth" as land.onewithhim wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2024 2:43 pm [Replying to Capbook in post #187]
It is wonderful, is it not? that we don't have to worry about anything as long as we are putting our trust in Jehovah and obeying Him. Mankind has an incredible future ahead right here on this beautiful planet.
"Trust in Jehovah with all your heart and do not lean upon your own understanding. In all your ways take notice of him, and he will make your paths straight." (Proverbs 3:5,6)
"And now if you will strictly obey my voice,... then you will certainly become my special property out of all other peoples, because the whole earth belongs to me." (Exodus 19:5 words from Jehovah)
"He will wipe away every tear from their eyes; and there will no longer be any death; there will no longer be any mourning, or crying, or pain; the first things have passed away." (Revelation 21:4, NASB)
"A generation goes and a generation comes, but the earth remains forever. (Ecclesiastes 1:4, NASB) "The meek shall inherit the earth; and shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace....The righteous shall inherit the land, and dwell therein for ever." (Psalm 37: 11,29, KJV)
Shalom