Paradise on Earth

[onewithhim]

When I learned that the Bible speaks of a restored Garden of Eden and the restoration of mankind to the perfection and endless life that Adam forfeited, I was thrilled. Who doesn't want to keep living on this beautiful earth, with our loved ones, and being able to do all the things we love to do---endlessly?

If God said to you today, "When do you want to die?" would you say "now!!"? I don't think very many people would say that.

We CAN live forever here on Earth. The Bible tells us that we can.

Matthew 5:5
Psalm 37:9-11,29

[JehovahsWitness]

Can you show me lexicon that the word "earth" during that time of usage in the Bible ...?

You have already provided the definition for EARTH in bible times ...

Earth (erets) one definition is land inhabitants.
Land inhabitants includes people, animals, some fowls etc.

Ive told you already , I do not want to talk about "human society" please dont mentionn"human society" to me again,

Thank you

JW

You equates land inhabitants to human society.
Does human society includes animals, some fowls and etc.?

[Capbook]

Can you show me lexicon that the word "earth" during that time of usage in the Bible ...?

You have already provided the definition for EARTH in bible times ...

Earth (erets) one definition is land inhabitants.
Land inhabitants includes people, animals, some fowls etc.

Ive told you already , I do not want to talk about "human society" please dont mentionn"human society" to me again,

Thank you

JW

You equates land inhabitants to human society.
Does human society includes animals, some fowls and etc.?

I will not mention it if you'll answer this question.
Is human society is your interpretation of earth? Yes or No.

[JehovahsWitness]

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Is human society is your interpretation of earth? Yes or No.

Why are you asking - I think you are mixing me with Onewithhim, ask her. See my posts below

[JehovahsWitness]

Metonym explained as substitute for something.

Not exactly, let's read the dictionary definition again...

METONYMY

: a figure of speech consisting of the use of the name of one thing for that of another of which it is an attribute or with which it is associated...
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/metonymy

• What is the name we give to the things that live on this planet?

• What is the name we give to the planet itself ?

[onewithhim]

1. Do you accept that land inhabitants includes people, animals, some fowls etc?
2. If yes, then the earth sings, which include people, animals, some fowls and etc.
3. Then for me that is the correct metonym/substitution, not just the human society.

So saying EARTH instead of "people, animals, some fowls etc" would be a metonym correct?

My question therefore for you is:

Are there any METONYMS in the bible?

PSALM 66:4 King James Bible
All the earth shall worship thee, and shall sing unto thee; they shall sing to thy name. Selah.

Metonym explained as substitute for something.
Earth (erets) one definition is land inhabitants.
Land inhabitants includes people, animals, some fowls etc.
If you say "earth as substitute to people, animals, some fowls etc."(metonym applied) I think no because earth has many definition.
It might be "land inhabitants as substitute to people, animals, some fowls, etc."
But it could never be "human society" as substitute to earth.

It has been shown over and over that "human society" can be the definition of "earth" in many places. See Genesis 11:1. ("Now all the earth continued to be of one language.")

Can you show me lexicon that the word "earth" during that time of usage in the Bible is human society?

I have shown you. You just pass right by it. See Genesis 11:1. ("Now all the earth continued to be of one language.") That is what the Bible says, not a lexicon that can be biased.

[Capbook]

1. Do you accept that land inhabitants includes people, animals, some fowls etc?
2. If yes, then the earth sings, which include people, animals, some fowls and etc.
3. Then for me that is the correct metonym/substitution, not just the human society.

So saying EARTH instead of "people, animals, some fowls etc" would be a metonym correct?

My question therefore for you is:

Are there any METONYMS in the bible?

PSALM 66:4 King James Bible
All the earth shall worship thee, and shall sing unto thee; they shall sing to thy name. Selah.

Metonym explained as substitute for something.
Earth (erets) one definition is land inhabitants.
Land inhabitants includes people, animals, some fowls etc.
If you say "earth as substitute to people, animals, some fowls etc."(metonym applied) I think no because earth has many definition.
It might be "land inhabitants as substitute to people, animals, some fowls, etc."
But it could never be "human society" as substitute to earth.

It has been shown over and over that "human society" can be the definition of "earth" in many places. See Genesis 11:1. ("Now all the earth continued to be of one language.")

Can you show me lexicon that the word "earth" during that time of usage in the Bible is human society?

I have shown you. You just pass right by it. See Genesis 11:1. ("Now all the earth continued to be of one language.") That is what the Bible says, not a lexicon that can be biased.

I just believe, you have no idea what lexicons are.
Lexicographers have the higher credentials than us to define Bible words at the time of its usage.
That is to be safe from eisegesis.
Eisegesis (/ˌaɪsɪˈdʒiːsɪs/) is the process of interpreting text in such a way as to introduce one's own presuppositions, agendas or biases.

[onewithhim]

1. Do you accept that land inhabitants includes people, animals, some fowls etc?
2. If yes, then the earth sings, which include people, animals, some fowls and etc.
3. Then for me that is the correct metonym/substitution, not just the human society.

So saying EARTH instead of "people, animals, some fowls etc" would be a metonym correct?

My question therefore for you is:

Are there any METONYMS in the bible?

PSALM 66:4 King James Bible
All the earth shall worship thee, and shall sing unto thee; they shall sing to thy name. Selah.

Metonym explained as substitute for something.
Earth (erets) one definition is land inhabitants.
Land inhabitants includes people, animals, some fowls etc.
If you say "earth as substitute to people, animals, some fowls etc."(metonym applied) I think no because earth has many definition.
It might be "land inhabitants as substitute to people, animals, some fowls, etc."
But it could never be "human society" as substitute to earth.

It has been shown over and over that "human society" can be the definition of "earth" in many places. See Genesis 11:1. ("Now all the earth continued to be of one language.")

Can you show me lexicon that the word "earth" during that time of usage in the Bible is human society?

I have shown you. You just pass right by it. See Genesis 11:1. ("Now all the earth continued to be of one language.") That is what the Bible says, not a lexicon that can be biased.

I just believe, you have no idea what lexicons are.
Lexicographers have the higher credentials than us to define Bible words at the time of its usage.
That is to be safe from eisegesis.
Eisegesis (/ˌaɪsɪˈdʒiːsɪs/) is the process of interpreting text in such a way as to introduce one's own presuppositions, agendas or biases.

Let's use words and descriptions that everyone can understand. Try just presenting your arguments in your own clear words and referring to the Scriptures only. Even Lexicographers can have bias. You do not comment on Genesis 11:1 that makes clear that the "earth" is the society of humans, in some instances, this being one of them. Why are you afraid to comment on that scripture?

[otseng]

Why are you afraid to comment on that scripture?

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[onewithhim]

Why are you afraid to comment on that scripture?

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I apologize.

[Capbook]

1. Do you accept that land inhabitants includes people, animals, some fowls etc?
2. If yes, then the earth sings, which include people, animals, some fowls and etc.
3. Then for me that is the correct metonym/substitution, not just the human society.

So saying EARTH instead of "people, animals, some fowls etc" would be a metonym correct?

My question therefore for you is:

Are there any METONYMS in the bible?

PSALM 66:4 King James Bible
All the earth shall worship thee, and shall sing unto thee; they shall sing to thy name. Selah.

Metonym explained as substitute for something.
Earth (erets) one definition is land inhabitants.
Land inhabitants includes people, animals, some fowls etc.
If you say "earth as substitute to people, animals, some fowls etc."(metonym applied) I think no because earth has many definition.
It might be "land inhabitants as substitute to people, animals, some fowls, etc."
But it could never be "human society" as substitute to earth.

It has been shown over and over that "human society" can be the definition of "earth" in many places. See Genesis 11:1. ("Now all the earth continued to be of one language.")

Can you show me lexicon that the word "earth" during that time of usage in the Bible is human society?

I have shown you. You just pass right by it. See Genesis 11:1. ("Now all the earth continued to be of one language.") That is what the Bible says, not a lexicon that can be biased.

I just believe, you have no idea what lexicons are.
Lexicographers have the higher credentials than us to define Bible words at the time of its usage.
That is to be safe from eisegesis.
Eisegesis (/ˌaɪsɪˈdʒiːsɪs/) is the process of interpreting text in such a way as to introduce one's own presuppositions, agendas or biases.

Let's use words and descriptions that everyone can understand. Try just presenting your arguments in your own clear words and referring to the Scriptures only. Even Lexicographers can have bias. You do not comment on Genesis 11:1 that makes clear that the "earth" is the society of humans, in some instances, this being one of them. Why are you afraid to comment on that scripture?

I believe I have already defined "earth" in Gen 11:1 as the same definition what lexicon gives.
And I don't believe that lexicons definitions are bias, lexicons are dictionaries, it defines Bible words at the time of its usage.
As I've said, without consulting them we may be guilty of eisegesis.