Paradise on Earth

[onewithhim]

When I learned that the Bible speaks of a restored Garden of Eden and the restoration of mankind to the perfection and endless life that Adam forfeited, I was thrilled. Who doesn't want to keep living on this beautiful earth, with our loved ones, and being able to do all the things we love to do---endlessly?

If God said to you today, "When do you want to die?" would you say "now!!"? I don't think very many people would say that.

We CAN live forever here on Earth. The Bible tells us that we can.

Matthew 5:5
Psalm 37:9-11,29

[onewithhim]

Dear Onewithhim,

One can express their private interpretations infinitely, But is all this talk about living forever on "this earth" of any value? Is this really your end goal?

Personally I for one do not look forward to living forever on "this earth" forever.

Should not all seek a loftier goal?

Revelation 21:1
And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.
6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.
7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.

So you should consider the clear fact that "this earth" and the heaven will both pass away according to Revelation 21.

I for one would look forward to living in the realm of a new heaven and a new earth.

This new heaven and new earth will also be a place wherein as stated that God will be also present and living with his faithful followers!

Since you have also stated that you also reject all latter day revelation, then I find it mighty strange that according to your private doctrine you would therefore have your God living with you and he neither could or would reveal or communicate with you forever????

God will not live with us literally, as I have explained. He will "live with" us the same as he did in times past with the nation of Israel. He said he would live with them, but did he literally come down out of heaven? No, and does Jesus literally live with us? After all he said that he would be with us until the end of the age. No, neither one is or will literally live with us. (See Exodus 29:45; Matthew 28:20.)

When it says that the world will be burned up and destroyed, it does not mean the literal earth. It is the "ungodly people" that are destroyed.

"The world of [Noah's] time suffered destruction when it was deluged with water. But by the same word the heavens and the earth that are now are stored up for fire and are being reserved to the day of judgment, and of destruction of the ungodly men." (2Peteer 3:6,7)

Did the literal earth become destroyed in Noah's day? (Matthew 24:37) No, and it will not be destroyed in the future. (Ecclesiastes 1:4) The "new heavens" means the form of government will change from men's government to the Kingdom with Christ as King (Isaiah 9:6,7). The "new earth" means a new society of people, righteous people, with no more evil individuals around to make life difficult. (What is "the earth" in this scripture? "Now all the earth continued to be of one language and of one set of words." (Genesis 11:1) It isn't the literal earth, is it? No, it's the people on the earth. Same with the "earth" being destroyed as mentioned by Peter. It is not the literal earth, but the people on it that are evil.

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[Capbook]

Dear Onewithhim,

One can express their private interpretations infinitely, But is all this talk about living forever on "this earth" of any value? Is this really your end goal?

Personally I for one do not look forward to living forever on "this earth" forever.

Should not all seek a loftier goal?

Revelation 21:1
And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.
6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.
7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.

So you should consider the clear fact that "this earth" and the heaven will both pass away according to Revelation 21.

I for one would look forward to living in the realm of a new heaven and a new earth.

This new heaven and new earth will also be a place wherein as stated that God will be also present and living with his faithful followers!

Since you have also stated that you also reject all latter day revelation, then I find it mighty strange that according to your private doctrine you would therefore have your God living with you and he neither could or would reveal or communicate with you forever????

God will not live with us literally, as I have explained. He will "live with" us the same as he did in times past with the nation of Israel. He said he would live with them, but did he literally come down out of heaven? No, and does Jesus literally live with us? After all he said that he would be with us until the end of the age. No, neither one is or will literally live with us. (See Exodus 29:45; Matthew 28:20.)

When it says that the world will be burned up and destroyed, it does not mean the literal earth. It is the "ungodly people" that are destroyed.

"The world of [Noah's] time suffered destruction when it was deluged with water. But by the same word the heavens and the earth that are now are stored up for fire and are being reserved to the day of judgment, and of destruction of the ungodly men." (2Peteer 3:6,7)

Did the literal earth become destroyed in Noah's day? (Matthew 24:37) No, and it will not be destroyed in the future. (Ecclesiastes 1:4) The "new heavens" means the form of government will change from men's government to the Kingdom with Christ as King (Isaiah 9:6,7). The "new earth" means a new society of people, righteous people, with no more evil individuals around to make life difficult. (What is "the earth" in this scripture? "Now all the earth continued to be of one language and of one set of words." (Genesis 11:1) It isn't the literal earth, is it? No, it's the people on the earth. Same with the "earth" being destroyed as mentioned by Peter. It is not the literal earth, but the people on it that are evil.

.

The two cities, Sodom and Gommorah were part of earth was turned to ashes. 2Pet 2:6. And it's nowhere to find. There will be a literal first earth and literal new earth after God's judgement. (Rev 21)

May I know what verse refers "earth" as the ungodly people?

If Jesus will not live with the saved that gives light to the city, how is it as there will no night there?

Rev 21:23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.
Rev 21:24 And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.
Rev 21:25 And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there.

[JehovahsWitness]

There will be a literal first earth and literal new earth after God's judgement. (Rev 21)

Revelation 21 is nit speaking about the literal earth (planet). It is symbolic language referring to human society.


JW

[Capbook]

There will be a literal first earth and literal new earth after God's judgement. (Rev 21)

Revelation 21 is nit speaking about the literal earth (planet). It is symbolic language referring to human society.


JW

Is Sodom and Gommorah that was turned to ashes also symbolical? It's not in Revelation. Is the book of Peter also symbolical?
2Pe 2:6 and if he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah and destroyed them by burning them to ashes, making them an example to ungodly people of what is going to happen to them;

[JehovahsWitness]

Is Sodom and Gommorah that was turned to ashes also symbolical?

It became symbolic. Real people and events are often used in the bible to symbolise future people, entities and /or events.

[Capbook]

Is Sodom and Gommorah that was turned to ashes also symbolical?

It became symbolic. Real people and events are often used in the bible to symbolise future people, entities and /or events.

Real fire in 2Pet 2:6 still will be real fire that turn to ashes those who lived ungodly.
And Peter has not even mentioned that that fire is symbolic in the future.

[JehovahsWitness]

And Peter has not even mentioned that that fire is symbolic in the future.

Hé doesnt need to , he has scripture which says the earth will stand (exist) forever. So any "burning" must be symbolic.

[myth-one.com]

And Peter has not even mentioned that that fire is symbolic in the future.

Hé doesnt need to , he has scripture which says the earth will stand (exist) forever. So any "burning" must be symbolic.

The earth is burning in spots now. I believe the largest fires are currently in California and Canada.

Are the Californian and Canadian fires symbolic?

[onewithhim]

Dear Onewithhim,

One can express their private interpretations infinitely, But is all this talk about living forever on "this earth" of any value? Is this really your end goal?

Personally I for one do not look forward to living forever on "this earth" forever.

Should not all seek a loftier goal?

Revelation 21:1
And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.
6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.
7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.

So you should consider the clear fact that "this earth" and the heaven will both pass away according to Revelation 21.

I for one would look forward to living in the realm of a new heaven and a new earth.

This new heaven and new earth will also be a place wherein as stated that God will be also present and living with his faithful followers!

Since you have also stated that you also reject all latter day revelation, then I find it mighty strange that according to your private doctrine you would therefore have your God living with you and he neither could or would reveal or communicate with you forever????

God will not live with us literally, as I have explained. He will "live with" us the same as he did in times past with the nation of Israel. He said he would live with them, but did he literally come down out of heaven? No, and does Jesus literally live with us? After all he said that he would be with us until the end of the age. No, neither one is or will literally live with us. (See Exodus 29:45; Matthew 28:20.)

When it says that the world will be burned up and destroyed, it does not mean the literal earth. It is the "ungodly people" that are destroyed.

"The world of [Noah's] time suffered destruction when it was deluged with water. But by the same word the heavens and the earth that are now are stored up for fire and are being reserved to the day of judgment, and of destruction of the ungodly men." (2Peteer 3:6,7)

Did the literal earth become destroyed in Noah's day? (Matthew 24:37) No, and it will not be destroyed in the future. (Ecclesiastes 1:4) The "new heavens" means the form of government will change from men's government to the Kingdom with Christ as King (Isaiah 9:6,7). The "new earth" means a new society of people, righteous people, with no more evil individuals around to make life difficult. (What is "the earth" in this scripture? "Now all the earth continued to be of one language and of one set of words." (Genesis 11:1) It isn't the literal earth, is it? No, it's the people on the earth. Same with the "earth" being destroyed as mentioned by Peter. It is not the literal earth, but the people on it that are evil.

.

The two cities, Sodom and Gommorah were part of earth was turned to ashes. 2Pet 2:6. And it's nowhere to find. There will be a literal first earth and literal new earth after God's judgement. (Rev 21)

May I know what verse refers "earth" as the ungodly people?

If Jesus will not live with the saved that gives light to the city, how is it as there will no night there?

Rev 21:23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.
Rev 21:24 And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.
Rev 21:25 And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there.

What is "a literal first earth" and "literal new earth"? Can you explain please?

Jesus will always live with the anointed saved ones that live with him in heaven. The spirit realm will always have light.

I explained about the ungodly men in a recent post. See 2Peter 3:5-7. The earth was not destroyed in Noah's day, but only ungodly people, right? The same with the coming destruction. The literal earth will remain. It is the "ungodly men" that will be destroyed. What is about this that you find hard to understand?

[onewithhim]

Dear Onewithhim,

One can express their private interpretations infinitely, But is all this talk about living forever on "this earth" of any value? Is this really your end goal?

Personally I for one do not look forward to living forever on "this earth" forever.

Should not all seek a loftier goal?

Revelation 21:1
And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.
6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.
7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.

So you should consider the clear fact that "this earth" and the heaven will both pass away according to Revelation 21.

I for one would look forward to living in the realm of a new heaven and a new earth.

This new heaven and new earth will also be a place wherein as stated that God will be also present and living with his faithful followers!

Since you have also stated that you also reject all latter day revelation, then I find it mighty strange that according to your private doctrine you would therefore have your God living with you and he neither could or would reveal or communicate with you forever????

God will not live with us literally, as I have explained. He will "live with" us the same as he did in times past with the nation of Israel. He said he would live with them, but did he literally come down out of heaven? No, and does Jesus literally live with us? After all he said that he would be with us until the end of the age. No, neither one is or will literally live with us. (See Exodus 29:45; Matthew 28:20.)

When it says that the world will be burned up and destroyed, it does not mean the literal earth. It is the "ungodly people" that are destroyed.

"The world of [Noah's] time suffered destruction when it was deluged with water. But by the same word the heavens and the earth that are now are stored up for fire and are being reserved to the day of judgment, and of destruction of the ungodly men." (2Peteer 3:6,7)

Did the literal earth become destroyed in Noah's day? (Matthew 24:37) No, and it will not be destroyed in the future. (Ecclesiastes 1:4) The "new heavens" means the form of government will change from men's government to the Kingdom with Christ as King (Isaiah 9:6,7). The "new earth" means a new society of people, righteous people, with no more evil individuals around to make life difficult. (What is "the earth" in this scripture? "Now all the earth continued to be of one language and of one set of words." (Genesis 11:1) It isn't the literal earth, is it? No, it's the people on the earth. Same with the "earth" being destroyed as mentioned by Peter. It is not the literal earth, but the people on it that are evil.

.

The two cities, Sodom and Gommorah were part of earth was turned to ashes. 2Pet 2:6. And it's nowhere to find. There will be a literal first earth and literal new earth after God's judgement. (Rev 21)

May I know what verse refers "earth" as the ungodly people?

If Jesus will not live with the saved that gives light to the city, how is it as there will no night there?

Rev 21:23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.
Rev 21:24 And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.
Rev 21:25 And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there.

What is "a literal first earth" and "literal new earth"? Can you explain please?

Jesus will always live with the anointed saved ones that live with him in heaven. The spirit realm will always have light.

I explained about the ungodly men in a recent post. See 2Peter 3:5-7. The earth was not destroyed in Noah's day, but only ungodly people, right? The same with the coming destruction. The literal earth will remain. It is the "ungodly men" that will be destroyed. What is about this that you find hard to understand?

.