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But when the Pharisees heard that he had silenced the Sadducees, they gathered together. And one of them, a lawyer, asked him a question to test him. “Teacher, which is the great commandment in the Law?” And he said to him, “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. This is the great and first commandment. And a second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself. On these two commandments depend all the Law and the Prophets.”
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I found Buddhism the best of a bad bunch. Islam the worst. I think I'd prefer hinduism or even Taoism to Christianity. It comes down to which has least restrictions and dependence on grovelling to the god -claim.
Which is why a better religion is beat by a better option than religion.
TRANSPONDER wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2024 2:39 am
I found Buddhism the best of a bad bunch. Islam the worst. I think I'd prefer hinduism or even Taoism to Christianity. It comes down to which has least restrictions and dependence on grovelling to the god -claim.
Which is why a better religion is beat by a better option than religion.
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But when the Pharisees heard that he had silenced the Sadducees, they gathered together. And one of them, a lawyer, asked him a question to test him. “Teacher, which is the great commandment in the Law?” And he said to him, “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. This is the great and first commandment. And a second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself. On these two commandments depend all the Law and the Prophets.”
The post above gave an indication of the golden rule, known in pretty much all cultures in one form or another,. This indicates a moral universal, independent of religion.
It is perhaps to be ascribed to a god of some sort, but not to one religion.
This applies to the quote, which I dismiss as with much of the NT, which is nodding to the commands of God, of course, but one thing more - become a Christian which apparently means giving over all your money and following religious orders for the rest of your life.
And this is pretty much how religion operates and, if this is of some value in pointing to 'love' as a desirable objective, I think it does not give us the truth, and I have never subscribed to the 'magic feather' even though it might achieve results (1).
The Truth is important, even if it leads to hard truths rather than uncomfortable lies, and I think evolutionary biology and social evolution is the way to understand moral and social instincts, and use them wisely, rather than letting the feelings control us, never mind unscrupulous religions that exploit such instinct to do so.
'One thing you yet lack, give all your money to us, and we will look after the poor, which company you have just become one of.' I Translated using the Theist - English dictionary and phrase - book. There is a bit of a fraud there. This questioner assumes that he can do that and follow Jesus but keep on following the laws of Moses. Aside dietary laws which are not in the Commandments but Jews might expect to be told they are no longer valid, but Temple worship is gone too, as well as the Sabbath, though Sunday church fudges that and leaving your father and mother and joining the cult...well Christianity pretends to be the religion of family..but only if they are all in the cult.
Thing is a Buddhist might say to a Christian, Muslim or Hindu, whether they have followed the rules. Yes? Very good, you are close. One thing ye lack - give up your religious rules and follow ours. And at least he told them straight what was involved.
So the moral peak is not in religion, let alone any one. And the bearded bod in the bonce - blanket might spout lines about Love and compassion that a top philosopher couldn't beat, but this is talking about the symptoms and how to ignore the pain, not a way cure it.
For that I think we need medicine not magic or meditation, and understanding the animals we are and how we work is the knowledge i think we need.
But when the Pharisees heard that he had silenced the Sadducees, they gathered together. And one of them, a lawyer, asked him a question to test him. “Teacher, which is the great commandment in the Law?” And he said to him, “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. This is the great and first commandment. And a second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself. On these two commandments depend all the Law and the Prophets.”
That's a nice sentiment but it leaves the question open as to the proper limits of empathy.
"If I was that psychopath, I would wish not to be punished for murdering all those people."
"If I was a corporate greedster, I would like to be able to exploit more people."
"If I was that beggar, I hope people who worked for it would give me their last dime and starve so I can drink."
Luke 21. 1 And He looked up and saw the rich putting their gifts into the treasury, 2 and He saw also a certain poor widow putting in two mites.[a] 3 So He said, “Truly I say to you that this poor widow has put in more than all; 4 for all these out of their abundance have put in offerings for God, but she out of her poverty put in all the livelihood that she had.”
Aside that Luke does not understand what the treasury was for (sin offerings, not bribes to the church) and this points to temple greed, not Church greed, the message is one we see all through the gospels 'Give everything you have to the Church, even down to the last cent, Don't lay up treasures, even as much as a dime, don't worry about tomorrow, weeds grow in the ground, so why should you worry? Give me all you have, Ben, I am so persecuted and I love you so, Ben, send me all your money".
TRANSPONDER wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2024 6:18 am
Aside that Luke does not understand what the treasury was for (sin offerings, not bribes to the church) and this points to temple greed, not Church greed, the message is one we see all through the gospels 'Give everything you have to the Church, even down to the last cent, Don't lay up treasures, even as much as a dime, don't worry about tomorrow, weeds grow in the ground, so why should you worry? Give me all you have, Ben, I am so persecuted and I love you so, Ben, send me all your money".
Every last dime.
So then there is no limit to empathy and it's as I've thought, when I've pondered the worst: If that man wants to exploit you, pretend you were him and you'd like it, so let him. If he wants to kill you, same.
TRANSPONDER wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2024 6:18 am
Aside that Luke does not understand what the treasury was for (sin offerings, not bribes to the church) and this points to temple greed, not Church greed, the message is one we see all through the gospels 'Give everything you have to the Church, even down to the last cent, Don't lay up treasures, even as much as a dime, don't worry about tomorrow, weeds grow in the ground, so why should you worry? Give me all you have, Ben, I am so persecuted and I love you so, Ben, send me all your money".
Every last dime.
So then there is no limit to empathy and it's as I've thought, when I've pondered the worst: If that man wants to exploit you, pretend you were him and you'd like it, so let him. If he wants to kill you, same.
That's what Matthew appears to preach, which is why the Bible is NOT a good guide to morality.
Like the vid said (I'll post it again) Nobody does that. No more than we stroll through the grainfields nibbling corn because Worship and the Church don't matter.
