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Paradise on Earth

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When I learned that the Bible speaks of a restored Garden of Eden and the restoration of mankind to the perfection and endless life that Adam forfeited, I was thrilled. Who doesn't want to keep living on this beautiful earth, with our loved ones, and being able to do all the things we love to do---endlessly?

If God said to you today, "When do you want to die?" would you say "now!!"? I don't think very many people would say that.

We CAN live forever here on Earth. The Bible tells us that we can.

Matthew 5:5
Psalm 37:9-11,29

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Re: Paradise on Earth

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JehovahsWitness wrote: Fri Jun 07, 2024 6:45 am
Capbook wrote: Fri Jun 07, 2024 3:09 am I just believe hell (gehenna) is not symbolic.
Could that be because you don't have a clear understanding if what the word "symbolic" actually means ?
How do you define symbolic then.

Online definition of symbolic;
1. serving as a symbol.
"a repeating design symbolic of eternity"
2. involving the use of symbols or symbolism.
"the symbolic meaning of motifs and designs"

Online definition of symbol;
1. a mark or character used as a conventional representation of an object, function, or process,

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Re: Paradise on Earth

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Capbook wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2024 3:16 am
JehovahsWitness wrote: Fri Jun 07, 2024 6:45 am
Capbook wrote: Fri Jun 07, 2024 3:09 am I just believe hell (gehenna) is not symbolic.
Could that be because you don't have a clear understanding if what the word "symbolic" actually means ?
How do you define symbolic then.

Online definition of symbolic;
1. serving as a symbol.
"a repeating design symbolic of eternity"
2. involving the use of symbols or symbolism.
"the symbolic meaning of motifs and designs"

Online definition of symbol;
1. a mark or character used as a conventional representation of an object, function, or process,

Could it be you dont understand how the above can apply to a scripture in the bible?
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"For if we live, we live to Jehovah, and if we die, we die to Jehovah. So both if we live and if we die, we belong to Jehovah" -
Romans 14:8

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Re: Paradise on Earth

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JehovahsWitness wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2024 4:00 am
Capbook wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2024 3:16 am
JehovahsWitness wrote: Fri Jun 07, 2024 6:45 am
Capbook wrote: Fri Jun 07, 2024 3:09 am I just believe hell (gehenna) is not symbolic.
Could that be because you don't have a clear understanding if what the word "symbolic" actually means ?
How do you define symbolic then.

Online definition of symbolic;
1. serving as a symbol.
"a repeating design symbolic of eternity"
2. involving the use of symbols or symbolism.
"the symbolic meaning of motifs and designs"

Online definition of symbol;
1. a mark or character used as a conventional representation of an object, function, or process,

Could it be you dont understand how the above can apply to a scripture in the bible?
Because I don't see any "symbol or symbolic" in the verse. Even lexicon and commentaries doesn't mentions "symbol or symbolic"

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Re: Paradise on Earth

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Capbook wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2024 4:52 am
JehovahsWitness wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2024 4:00 am
Capbook wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2024 3:16 am
JehovahsWitness wrote: Fri Jun 07, 2024 6:45 am
Capbook wrote: Fri Jun 07, 2024 3:09 am I just believe hell (gehenna) is not symbolic.
Could that be because you don't have a clear understanding if what the word "symbolic" actually means ?
How do you define symbolic then.

Online definition of symbolic;
1. serving as a symbol.
"a repeating design symbolic of eternity"
2. involving the use of symbols or symbolism.
"the symbolic meaning of motifs and designs"

Online definition of symbol;
1. a mark or character used as a conventional representation of an object, function, or process,

Could it be you dont understand how the above can apply to a scripture in the bible?
Because I don't see any "symbol or symbolic" in the verse. ...
Could it be a verse could be symbolic without the word symbolic actually being in the verse?
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Re: Paradise on Earth

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JehovahsWitness wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2024 12:36 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2024 4:52 am
JehovahsWitness wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2024 4:00 am
Capbook wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2024 3:16 am
JehovahsWitness wrote: Fri Jun 07, 2024 6:45 am
Capbook wrote: Fri Jun 07, 2024 3:09 am I just believe hell (gehenna) is not symbolic.
Could that be because you don't have a clear understanding if what the word "symbolic" actually means ?
How do you define symbolic then.

Online definition of symbolic;
1. serving as a symbol.
"a repeating design symbolic of eternity"
2. involving the use of symbols or symbolism.
"the symbolic meaning of motifs and designs"

Online definition of symbol;
1. a mark or character used as a conventional representation of an object, function, or process,

Could it be you dont understand how the above can apply to a scripture in the bible?
Because I don't see any "symbol or symbolic" in the verse. ...
Could it be a verse could be symbolic without the word symbolic actually being in the verse?
It has to have symbols. Define your term "symbolic".
There are many symbols, like no smoking, no parking and many.

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Re: Paradise on Earth

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Capbook wrote: Sun Jun 09, 2024 2:02 am. Define your term "symbolic".
...

SYMBOL

2. a thing that represents or stands for something else

Definitions from Oxford Languages
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1. something that stands for, represents, or suggests another thing
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Re: Paradise on Earth

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JehovahsWitness wrote: Sun Jun 09, 2024 2:55 am
Capbook wrote: Sun Jun 09, 2024 2:02 am. Define your term "symbolic".
...

SYMBOL

2. a thing that represents or stands for something else

Definitions from Oxford Languages
Collins Dictionary

1. something that stands for, represents, or suggests another thing
Yes a thing, symbol of no smoking a thing, symbol of no parking a thing.
There are so many symbols specially on road signs, symbol of no left turn, right turn, no enter etc.
I just can't post the pictures here.

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Re: Paradise on Earth

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Capbook wrote: Sun Jun 09, 2024 3:16 am
JehovahsWitness wrote: Sun Jun 09, 2024 2:55 am
Capbook wrote: Sun Jun 09, 2024 2:02 am. Define your term "symbolic".
...

SYMBOL

2. a thing that represents or stands for something else

Definitions from Oxford Languages
Collins Dictionary

1. something that stands for, represents, or suggests another thing
I just can't post the pictures here.
A symbol doesnt have to be a picture, it dan be a word or an idea. Anything that represents something eles. Do you understand what I just said?
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Re: Paradise on Earth

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JehovahsWitness wrote: Sun Jun 09, 2024 3:47 am
Capbook wrote: Sun Jun 09, 2024 3:16 am
JehovahsWitness wrote: Sun Jun 09, 2024 2:55 am
Capbook wrote: Sun Jun 09, 2024 2:02 am. Define your term "symbolic".
...

SYMBOL

2. a thing that represents or stands for something else

Definitions from Oxford Languages
Collins Dictionary

1. something that stands for, represents, or suggests another thing
I just can't post the pictures here.
A symbol doesnt have to be a picture, it dan be a word or an idea. Anything that represents something eles. Do you understand what I just said?
Yes, but for me a fire that can burn is not a symbol.

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Re: Paradise on Earth

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Capbook wrote: Sun Jun 09, 2024 4:50 am
... me a fire that can burn is not a symbol.
A symbolic fire, with symbolic burning can is.
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