We know “Gods grace”, or “Gods favor” is a gift, but what about faith?
Ephesians 2:8
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Faith is also shown as a gift from God…
Romans 12:6
Having then gifts differing according to the grace that is given to us, whether prophecy, let us prophesy according to the proportion of faith;
1 Corinthians 12:7-9
King James Version
7 But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal.
8 For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;
9 To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;”
So truly a man can receive nothing except it be given to him from heaven-John 3:27
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Faith is a gift from God
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Re: Faith is a gift from God
Post #2Faith is laid out in James 2. "Faith" is an action. Your quotes are from the false prophet Paul, who is the son of the dragon/devil/serpent, and whose message is the same as that of the serpent (Genesis 3:4). As for John 3:27, that is a quote about John the Baptist, "who is of the earth" (John 3:31), and he is not talking about "faith", but baptism.Stewardofthemystery wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2024 11:18 am We know “Gods grace”, or “Gods favor” is a gift, but what about faith?
Ephesians 2:8
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Faith is also shown as a gift from God…
Romans 12:6
Having then gifts differing according to the grace that is given to us, whether prophecy, let us prophesy according to the proportion of faith;
1 Corinthians 12:7-9
King James Version
7 But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal.
8 For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;
9 To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;”
So truly a man can receive nothing except it be given to him from heaven-John 3:27
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Re: Faith is a gift from God
Post #3If you don’t believe Paul then you won’t believe the Lord who sent him.2ndpillar2 wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2024 2:03 pmYour quotes are from the false prophet Paul, who is the son of the dragon/devil/serpent, and whose message is the same as that of the serpent (Genesis 3:4). As for John 3:27, that is a quote about John the Baptist, "who is of the earth" (John 3:31), and he is not talking about "faith", but baptism.Stewardofthemystery wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2024 11:18 am We know “Gods grace”, or “Gods favor” is a gift, but what about faith?
Ephesians 2:8
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Faith is also shown as a gift from God…
Romans 12:6
Having then gifts differing according to the grace that is given to us, whether prophecy, let us prophesy according to the proportion of faith;
1 Corinthians 12:7-9
King James Version
7 But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal.
8 For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;
9 To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;”
So truly a man can receive nothing except it be given to him from heaven-John 3:27
Peace
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Re: Faith is a gift from God
Post #4It is also said faith comes by hearing the word of God. So, if faith is a gift, it is given by making the word available.Stewardofthemystery wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2024 11:18 am We know “Gods grace”, or “Gods favor” is a gift, but what about faith?
Ephesians 2:8
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Faith is also shown as a gift from God…
Romans 12:6
Having then gifts differing according to the grace that is given to us, whether prophecy, let us prophesy according to the proportion of faith;
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So faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
Romans 10:17
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Re: Faith is a gift from God
Post #5Romans 12:3
For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith.
For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith.
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Re: Faith is a gift from God
Post #6[Replying to 1213 in post #4]
Yes but hearing comes from being regenerated, men naturally from a spiritual hearing perspective, cant hear and understand spiritually. Faith requires spiritual hearing. Jn 8:43,47
43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.
Jesus isnt saying they cant hear His Word naturally with the physical ear, but they cant hear and receive it Spiritually.
47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.
Jesus then tells us who it is that hears the word of God Spiritually, them who are of God, meaning born of God, then and only then is Faith generated, so its a Gift, a Spiritual Gift.
BTW this being made available stuff is pure nonsense !
Yes but hearing comes from being regenerated, men naturally from a spiritual hearing perspective, cant hear and understand spiritually. Faith requires spiritual hearing. Jn 8:43,47
43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.
Jesus isnt saying they cant hear His Word naturally with the physical ear, but they cant hear and receive it Spiritually.
47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.
Jesus then tells us who it is that hears the word of God Spiritually, them who are of God, meaning born of God, then and only then is Faith generated, so its a Gift, a Spiritual Gift.
BTW this being made available stuff is pure nonsense !
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Post #7[Replying to Stewardofthemystery in post #5]
Yes and the every man here isnt speaking of the unregenerate, but those whom have been birthed into the Kingdom of God.
Yes and the every man here isnt speaking of the unregenerate, but those whom have been birthed into the Kingdom of God.
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Post #8Why? It think it is true, the word is available, but people can reject it, and then it is not useful for them.
It is the spirit who gives life. The flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and are life.
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Re: Faith is a gift from God
Post #10Faith is also one of the fruit of the Holy Spirit. Gal 5:22.Stewardofthemystery wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2024 11:18 am We know “Gods grace”, or “Gods favor” is a gift, but what about faith?
Ephesians 2:8
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Faith is also shown as a gift from God…
Romans 12:6
Having then gifts differing according to the grace that is given to us, whether prophecy, let us prophesy according to the proportion of faith;
1 Corinthians 12:7-9
King James Version
7 But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal.
8 For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;
9 To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;”
So truly a man can receive nothing except it be given to him from heaven-John 3:27
Peace