If you asked a child the quote below what would they say?

[Wootah]

[Replying to JehovahsWitness in post #36]

I'll ask again:

If I went up to a child and said

'Who created the heavens?

'Who created the earth?

'Who created all the people and angels?'

'Who exists before anything else exists?'

If you asked a child the quote below what would they say?


(This is taken from this thread: viewtopic.php?p=1134599#p1134599)

[boatsnguitars]

...They think that dreaming something makes it true...

I think all innovation is based on dreaming something to become true. But, probably people have already innovated too much, so it is not a problem, if people are like atheists in that.

Yes, innovation is dreaming. It's why we have new gods - people dream them up and create them. thank you for understanding.

...Jesus wants us to be simpletons like children. Of course he does! A child hands over money because they don't understand its value! ...

I think that is insulting for all children. You think you were a simpleton when you were a child?

Sure was! Still am! That's why it's so embarrassing for you guys to lose so many arguments against me.

[TRANSPONDER]

[Replying to alexxcJRO in post #29]

You did my job for me. Thanks.

I would anticipate that the apologist will claim that kids are born with a perception of God. This is arguable on many levels.

They are born with an instinct to trust and learn. Animals have this, too. I suggest (and I would imagine that biologists do, too) that this is an evolutionary survival trait, common to mammals, at least.

That said, the trust is exploited by religion through the family, school or whatever method it can employ, to indoctrinate the kid with their own particular. religion Because, even if there was a god and somehow we were aware of it from birth, religions teach us their own man - made versions of it.

Thus you have explained why atheism from birth is the better explanation, because the idea of a god, let alone a tribal religion, is something that has to be taught.

[TRANSPONDER]

...They think that dreaming something makes it true...

I think all innovation is based on dreaming something to become true. But, probably people have already innovated too much, so it is not a problem, if people are like atheists in that.

Yes, innovation is dreaming. It's why we have new gods - people dream them up and create them. thank you for understanding.

...Jesus wants us to be simpletons like children. Of course he does! A child hands over money because they don't understand its value! ...

I think that is insulting for all children. You think you were a simpleton when you were a child?

Sure was! Still am! That's why it so embarrassing for you guys to lose so many arguments against me.

Thanks again. Theist or Bible - apologists seem to have a chip on their shoulder about how atheists think they are so smart. We don't; we know how little we know. I at least know thatb I have a very average brain. Yet I do pretty well against Christian aapologetics because I'm willing to listen and learn; they are not. They are the ones that think they know it all, because (I have a theory) they think God is telling them. It is why we get the get the phenomenon of Christians denouncing each other as not Real Christians because the Truth downloaded into their heads by God using the comunication wire of Revelation accessed through the area code of Godfaith differs from the stuff the other Christian is saying.

Axiom: "There are many religions, there is only one science".

[Ratiocination11]

I used to love these debates many moons ago. Was there any resolution to THIS one?

[TRANSPONDER]

I used to love these debates many moons ago. Was there any resolution to THIS one?

I don't recall, but the answer is well - known. If you want to know answers you don't ask children or people who think like children. You ask people who know or (if they don't know) say "We don't know - yet".

[Wootah]

I used to love these debates many moons ago. Was there any resolution to THIS one?

I don't recall, but the answer is well - known. If you want to know answers you don't ask children or people who think like children. You ask people who know or (if they don't know) say "We don't know - yet".

So are you saying ... someone made it all?

[TRANSPONDER]

I used to love these debates many moons ago. Was there any resolution to THIS one?

I don't recall, but the answer is well - known. If you want to know answers you don't ask children or people who think like children. You ask people who know or (if they don't know) say "We don't know - yet".

So are you saying ... someone made it all?

Not that I can see. I'm saying 'We don't know'. I'd guess it was made, but by what, or rather, what process, I don't know. As for "Who" made it, I'd want to know who made the Someone?"

[The Nice Centurion]

[Replying to JehovahsWitness in post #36]

I'll ask again:

If I went up to a child and said

'Who created the heavens?

'Who created the earth?

'Who created all the people and angels?'

'Who exists before anything else exists?'

If you asked a child the quote below what would they say?


(This is taken from this thread: viewtopic.php?p=1134599#p1134599)

The kid would say:
" For what gain do you bombard me with Begging the Question Fallacys"

[Wootah]

[Replying to JehovahsWitness in post #36]

I'll ask again:

If I went up to a child and said

'Who created the heavens?

'Who created the earth?

'Who created all the people and angels?'

'Who exists before anything else exists?'

If you asked a child the quote below what would they say?


(This is taken from this thread: viewtopic.php?p=1134599#p1134599)

The kid would say:
" For what gain do you bombard me with Begging the Question Fallacys"

Humour me and demonstrate the fallacy.

[The Nice Centurion]

[Replying to Wootah in post #39]
First question;
Double Begging the Question Fallacy. Also it remains unclear what the questioner means with: " the heavens ".

Second question;
Double Begging the Question Fallacy.

Third question;
Triple Begging the Question Fallacy.

Fourth question;
Double Begging the Question Fallacy.