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THE FUTURE

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Haven't we all, at one time or another, wondered what the future will be like? Experts of men have had a spotty reputation as most of their predictions have proved untrue.

What does the Bible tell us? "The God of heaven will set up a kingdom which shall never be destroyed....It shall break in pieces all these kingdoms and bring them to an end, and it shall stand forever." (Daniel 2:44, Revised Standard Version)

Is this good news? Of course, when we realize what God's Kingdom is. It is a real government that will replace all of the existing governments on the earth and stand forever. Stability and order will be brought to people on the earth. What will life be like under this government?

NO MORE WAR (Psalm 46:9)
NO MORE SICKNESS (Isaiah 33:24)
NO MORE FOOD SHORTAGE (Psalm 72:16)
NO MORE PAIN, SORROW AND DEATH (Revelation 21:4)

These are just some of the promises made in the Bible about God's Kingdom, and there are more. God has promised all these wonderful things for the future. All righteously inclined people can avail themselves of these promises. Does this sound good to you?

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onewithhim wrote: Tue Nov 07, 2023 2:40 pm
myth-one.com wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 2:32 pm
onewithhim wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 2:21 pm
myth-one.com wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 2:14 pm [Replying to onewithhim in post #6]

Being righteous or righteously inclined saves no one under the New Testament Covenant!

The righteous, the righteously inclined, the mass murderers, the men of old, Adam and Eve, all who lived before Jesus died, and whosoever else you might group together, must believe in Jesus as their Savior to gain everlasting life:

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him, should not perish, but have everlasting life. (John 3:16)
Of course. That is what I've always said, and other JWs believe the same thing. Is it that you just want to argue?
Actually, here is what Onewithhim wrote:All righteously inclined people can avail themselves of these promises.
Whosoever can "avail" themselves of these promises.

What's so special about those that are "righteously inclined?"
I explained that in my post #6.
Being righteous, or being righteously inclined, or being a righteous man of old times, or even recognizing YHWH as the Supreme God saves no one under the New Testament Covenant:

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him (the Son) should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Christians, Jews, and Muslims worship the same Supreme God. Most are probably "righteously inclined."

Are members of all three of these religions going to become members of the Kingdom of God, or will only the ones believing in Jesus do so?

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myth-one.com wrote: Tue Nov 07, 2023 7:10 pm
onewithhim wrote: Tue Nov 07, 2023 2:40 pm
myth-one.com wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 2:32 pm
onewithhim wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 2:21 pm
myth-one.com wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 2:14 pm [Replying to onewithhim in post #6]

Being righteous or righteously inclined saves no one under the New Testament Covenant!

The righteous, the righteously inclined, the mass murderers, the men of old, Adam and Eve, all who lived before Jesus died, and whosoever else you might group together, must believe in Jesus as their Savior to gain everlasting life:

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him, should not perish, but have everlasting life. (John 3:16)
Of course. That is what I've always said, and other JWs believe the same thing. Is it that you just want to argue?
Actually, here is what Onewithhim wrote:All righteously inclined people can avail themselves of these promises.
Whosoever can "avail" themselves of these promises.

What's so special about those that are "righteously inclined?"
I explained that in my post #6.
Being righteous, or being righteously inclined, or being a righteous man of old times, or even recognizing YHWH as the Supreme God saves no one under the New Testament Covenant:

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him (the Son) should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Christians, Jews, and Muslims worship the same Supreme God. Most are probably "righteously inclined."

Are members of all three of these religions going to become members of the Kingdom of God, or will only the ones believing in Jesus do so?
The Scriptures indicate that there is more than just believing to get saved. We have to ACT on that belief and produce good works according to repentance.

"Even so, faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone. Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works; shew me thy faith without thy works and I will show thee my faith by my works." (James 2:17,18, KJV)

Most self-described Christians ignore these verses because they don't agree with them. But there they are.

Also, "righteous" means those that worship Jehovah as the Most High, and accept His Son as our redeemer. And that involves doing the works that Christ taught us to do.

"Not everyone that saith unto me, Lord,Lord shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that DOETH the will of my Father which is in heaven." (Matthew 7:21, KJV)

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onewithhim wrote: Wed Nov 08, 2023 2:08 pm
myth-one.com wrote: Tue Nov 07, 2023 7:10 pm
onewithhim wrote: Tue Nov 07, 2023 2:40 pm
myth-one.com wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 2:32 pm
onewithhim wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 2:21 pm
myth-one.com wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 2:14 pm [Replying to onewithhim in post #6]

Being righteous or righteously inclined saves no one under the New Testament Covenant!

The righteous, the righteously inclined, the mass murderers, the men of old, Adam and Eve, all who lived before Jesus died, and whosoever else you might group together, must believe in Jesus as their Savior to gain everlasting life:

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him, should not perish, but have everlasting life. (John 3:16)
Of course. That is what I've always said, and other JWs believe the same thing. Is it that you just want to argue?
Actually, here is what Onewithhim wrote:All righteously inclined people can avail themselves of these promises.
Whosoever can "avail" themselves of these promises.

What's so special about those that are "righteously inclined?"
I explained that in my post #6.
Being righteous, or being righteously inclined, or being a righteous man of old times, or even recognizing YHWH as the Supreme God saves no one under the New Testament Covenant:

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him (the Son) should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Christians, Jews, and Muslims worship the same Supreme God. Most are probably "righteously inclined."

Are members of all three of these religions going to become members of the Kingdom of God, or will only the ones believing in Jesus do so?
The Scriptures indicate that there is more than just believing to get saved. We have to ACT on that belief and produce good works according to repentance.

"Even so, faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone. Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works; shew me thy faith without thy works and I will show thee my faith by my works." (James 2:17,18, KJV)

Most self-described Christians ignore these verses because they don't agree with them. But there they are.

Also, "righteous" means those that worship Jehovah as the Most High, and accept His Son as our redeemer. And that involves doing the works that Christ taught us to do.

"Not everyone that saith unto me, Lord,Lord shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that DOETH the will of my Father which is in heaven." (Matthew 7:21, KJV)
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onewithhim wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2023 7:38 pm Haven't we all, at one time or another, wondered what the future will be like? Experts of men have had a spotty reputation as most of their predictions have proved untrue.
This is more true of the Jehovah's Witnesses than any other faith, is it not?
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Ross wrote: Sat Nov 25, 2023 1:34 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2023 7:38 pm Haven't we all, at one time or another, wondered what the future will be like? Experts of men have had a spotty reputation as most of their predictions have proved untrue.
This is more true of the Jehovah's Witnesses than any other faith, is it not?
No. Other faiths have done the same thing---tried to figure out when Christ will come back and the end of the age. JWs have stopped trying to figure it out, and we realize that all that we must do is warn people of the coming "end of the world" and to try and teach them the Truth.

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onewithhim wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 9:11 am
Ross wrote: Sat Nov 25, 2023 1:34 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2023 7:38 pm Haven't we all, at one time or another, wondered what the future will be like? Experts of men have had a spotty reputation as most of their predictions have proved untrue.
This is more true of the Jehovah's Witnesses than any other faith, is it not?
No. Other faiths have done the same thing---tried to figure out when Christ will come back and the end of the age. JWs have stopped trying to figure it out, and we realize that all that we must do is warn people of the coming "end of the world" and to try and teach them the Truth.
The Bible tells us exactly when the Second Coming will be. It will occur 6,000 years from the creation of mankind.

The problem is then trying to determine the exact date at which we will reach that 6,000 year target date.

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myth-one.com wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 10:37 am
onewithhim wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 9:11 am
Ross wrote: Sat Nov 25, 2023 1:34 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2023 7:38 pm Haven't we all, at one time or another, wondered what the future will be like? Experts of men have had a spotty reputation as most of their predictions have proved untrue.
This is more true of the Jehovah's Witnesses than any other faith, is it not?
No. Other faiths have done the same thing---tried to figure out when Christ will come back and the end of the age. JWs have stopped trying to figure it out, and we realize that all that we must do is warn people of the coming "end of the world" and to try and teach them the Truth.
The Bible tells us exactly when the Second Coming will be. It will occur 6,000 years from the creation of mankind.

The problem is then trying to determine the exact date at which we will reach that 6,000 year target date.
That is exactly what JWs thought. That's why they said it would be 1975. That was what they figured would be 6,000 years. What we're not considering, though, is when Eve was created. When that creation reaches 6,000 years, that'll be the time. Her creation has to be considered. So, again, JWs figured 6,000 years since Adam's creation ended in 1975. There's a way to figure those things out, by taking into consideration many dates, king's reigns, etc. But Eve's creation must be considered, and it was a long time after Adam's creation. He said, "AT LAST, bone of my bone, flesh of my flesh." So it was quite a while.

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onewithhim wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 12:28 pm
myth-one.com wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 10:37 am
onewithhim wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 9:11 am
Ross wrote: Sat Nov 25, 2023 1:34 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2023 7:38 pm Haven't we all, at one time or another, wondered what the future will be like? Experts of men have had a spotty reputation as most of their predictions have proved untrue.
This is more true of the Jehovah's Witnesses than any other faith, is it not?
No. Other faiths have done the same thing---tried to figure out when Christ will come back and the end of the age. JWs have stopped trying to figure it out, and we realize that all that we must do is warn people of the coming "end of the world" and to try and teach them the Truth.
The Bible tells us exactly when the Second Coming will be. It will occur 6,000 years from the creation of mankind.

The problem is then trying to determine the exact date at which we will reach that 6,000 year target date.
That is exactly what JWs thought. That's why they said it would be 1975. That was what they figured would be 6,000 years. What we're not considering, though, is when Eve was created. When that creation reaches 6,000 years, that'll be the time. Her creation has to be considered. So, again, JWs figured 6,000 years since Adam's creation ended in 1975. There's a way to figure those things out, by taking into consideration many dates, king's reigns, etc. But Eve's creation must be considered, and it was a long time after Adam's creation. He said, "AT LAST, bone of my bone, flesh of my flesh." So it was quite a while.
The age of man (or mankind) begins with the first man or woman created. In this case that would be Adam.

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myth-one.com wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 1:56 pm
onewithhim wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 12:28 pm
myth-one.com wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 10:37 am
onewithhim wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 9:11 am
Ross wrote: Sat Nov 25, 2023 1:34 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2023 7:38 pm Haven't we all, at one time or another, wondered what the future will be like? Experts of men have had a spotty reputation as most of their predictions have proved untrue.
This is more true of the Jehovah's Witnesses than any other faith, is it not?
No. Other faiths have done the same thing---tried to figure out when Christ will come back and the end of the age. JWs have stopped trying to figure it out, and we realize that all that we must do is warn people of the coming "end of the world" and to try and teach them the Truth.
The Bible tells us exactly when the Second Coming will be. It will occur 6,000 years from the creation of mankind.

The problem is then trying to determine the exact date at which we will reach that 6,000 year target date.
That is exactly what JWs thought. That's why they said it would be 1975. That was what they figured would be 6,000 years. What we're not considering, though, is when Eve was created. When that creation reaches 6,000 years, that'll be the time. Her creation has to be considered. So, again, JWs figured 6,000 years since Adam's creation ended in 1975. There's a way to figure those things out, by taking into consideration many dates, king's reigns, etc. But Eve's creation must be considered, and it was a long time after Adam's creation. He said, "AT LAST, bone of my bone, flesh of my flesh." So it was quite a while.
The age of man (or mankind) begins with the first man or woman created. In this case that would be Adam.
It begins when the first humans were created, when the creation of both of them was completed. That means it is 6,000 years after Eve was created.

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myth-one.com wrote:The Bible tells us exactly when the Second Coming will be. It will occur 6,000 years from the creation of mankind.

The problem is then trying to determine the exact date at which we will reach that 6,000 year target date.
Onewithhim wrote:That is exactly what JWs thought. That's why they said it would be 1975. That was what they figured would be 6,000 years. What we're not considering, though, is when Eve was created. When that creation reaches 6,000 years, that'll be the time. Her creation has to be considered. So, again, JWs figured 6,000 years since Adam's creation ended in 1975. There's a way to figure those things out, by taking into consideration many dates, king's reigns, etc. But Eve's creation must be considered, and it was a long time after Adam's creation. He said, "AT LAST, bone of my bone, flesh of my flesh." So it was quite a while.
Myth-one.com wrote: The age of man (or mankind) begins with the first man or woman created. In this case that would be Adam.
Onewithhim wrote:It begins when the first humans were created, when the creation of both of them was completed. That means it is 6,000 years after Eve was created.
So man did not exist until woman was created?

The 6,000 years of mankind's "work" begins when mankind was given dominion over the earth:

Genesis 1:26
And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.is how long mankind will have dominion over the earth.

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