How many religions came from America?

[Wootah]

Is it evidence for or against religions if they came from America?

For instance Mormonism and Jehovah's Witnesses. Are there more? Scientology. Any more?

I would argue it is evidence against the religion because America has quite literally nothing the to do with the Bible. What other evidence flows from a religion coming from America?

[kjw47]

Gods name belongs in the NT about 200 spots, where the OT is quoted and the name should be there in the OT. Jerome, prior to translating the Latin Vulgate told the Pope Gods name belonged in those spots. I dont know if it was allowed.
Jesus is the son of God.

But......... why do you call Him 'God'? You mentioned 'God' three times in that post, and not Jehovah. Yet previously you seemed to suggest that this title was a 'devil' manipulation?

God = YHWH(Jehovah) a single being God= The Abrahamic God served by Israel.

[oldbadger]

Gods name belongs in the NT about 200 spots, where the OT is quoted and the name should be there in the OT. Jerome, prior to translating the Latin Vulgate told the Pope Gods name belonged in those spots. I dont know if it was allowed.
Jesus is the son of God.

But......... why do you call Him 'God'? You mentioned 'God' three times in that post, and not Jehovah. Yet previously you seemed to suggest that this title was a 'devil' manipulation?

God = YHWH(Jehovah) a single being God= The Abrahamic God served by Israel.

If you apply what you have written to the bible that I use then there can't be that much that is devilish about it, surely?
I admit that there are editions, manipulations and deceptions in quite a lot of the NT but there isn't that much difference between translation which could make yours Godly and mine devilish, imo.

Beside the above point, the JWs who have door-knocked around my home (until Covid) have always shown intimate detailed knowledge of the Gospels and have often swapped and shared details with me. Afaik you are the first JW that has suggested that the details about what Jesus did are not particularly important and that the eternal life message is the only one to focus upon. If I asked them 'what did Jesus do in the Temple on Palm Sunday' they would give me both accounts exactly and then explain any variances...... true.

[kjw47]

Gods name belongs in the NT about 200 spots, where the OT is quoted and the name should be there in the OT. Jerome, prior to translating the Latin Vulgate told the Pope Gods name belonged in those spots. I dont know if it was allowed.
Jesus is the son of God.

But......... why do you call Him 'God'? You mentioned 'God' three times in that post, and not Jehovah. Yet previously you seemed to suggest that this title was a 'devil' manipulation?

God = YHWH(Jehovah) a single being God= The Abrahamic God served by Israel.

If you apply what you have written to the bible that I use then there can't be that much that is devilish about it, surely?
I admit that there are editions, manipulations and deceptions in quite a lot of the NT but there isn't that much difference between translation which could make yours Godly and mine devilish, imo.

Beside the above point, the JWs who have door-knocked around my home (until Covid) have always shown intimate detailed knowledge of the Gospels and have often swapped and shared details with me. Afaik you are the first JW that has suggested that the details about what Jesus
did are not particularly important and that the eternal life message is the only one to focus upon. If I asked them 'what did Jesus do in the Temple on Palm Sunday' they would give me both accounts exactly and then explain any variances...... true.

The big difference the removal of Gods name in about 7000 places to mislead
The prime example of that is Joel 2:31-32--Those who call on the name of YHWH(Jehovah) will be saved.
Quoted 2 x in the NT--Acts 2:21 Romans 10:13-- Your bible says Lord at all 3 spots, and since 1 Cor 8:6 says there is one Lord Jesus, those using the misleading translations will call on the name Jesus, the name-YHWH(Jehovah) belongs at all 3 spots.
The name was removed by satans will through wicked men who had no right to remove Gods name where he inspired it to be. Thus all using the altered versions are being mislead into supporting satans will over Gods will.

[oldbadger]

The big difference the removal of Gods name in about 7000 places to mislead
The prime example of that is Joel 2:31-32--Those who call on the name of YHWH(Jehovah) will be saved.
Quoted 2 x in the NT--Acts 2:21 Romans 10:13-- Your bible says Lord at all 3 spots, and since 1 Cor 8:6 says there is one Lord Jesus, those using the misleading translations will call on the name Jesus, the name-YHWH(Jehovah) belongs at all 3 spots.
The name was removed by satans will through wicked men who had no right to remove Gods name where he inspired it to be. Thus all using the altered versions are being mislead into supporting satans will over Gods will.

Do you think that some people will not find salvation just because they call to God, or Lord, or YahWeh, or YWHW and not Jehovah? Maybe you might be expected to recite or know the gospels...... a kind of Hafiz?

We have an old saying here: A Rose is a rose by any other name. :

[kjw47]

The big difference the removal of Gods name in about 7000 places to mislead
The prime example of that is Joel 2:31-32--Those who call on the name of YHWH(Jehovah) will be saved.
Quoted 2 x in the NT--Acts 2:21 Romans 10:13-- Your bible says Lord at all 3 spots, and since 1 Cor 8:6 says there is one Lord Jesus, those using the misleading translations will call on the name Jesus, the name-YHWH(Jehovah) belongs at all 3 spots.
The name was removed by satans will through wicked men who had no right to remove Gods name where he inspired it to be. Thus all using the altered versions are being mislead into supporting satans will over Gods will.

Do you think that some people will not find salvation just because they call to God, or Lord, or YahWeh, or YWHW and not Jehovah? Maybe you might be expected to recite or know the gospels...... a kind of Hafiz?

We have an old saying here: A Rose is a rose by any other name. :

God only accepts worship in spirit and truth-John 4:22-24-- Only what God thinks will have any meaning then. The same now. Thats why Jesus taught--Man does not live by bread alone, but by EVERY utterance from God. 1540 pages of utterances give or take. Few bothered.

[oldbadger]

God only accepts worship in spirit and truth-John 4:22-24-- Only what God thinks will have any meaning then. The same now. Thats why Jesus taught--Man does not live by bread alone, but by EVERY utterance from God. 1540 pages of utterances give or take. Few bothered.

But you haven't used the title 'Jehovah' once in that post. You've used the title 'God' that my bible uses.

I notice that you usually quote from John, the focus seems to be upon John with some quotations from Matthew. I tend to follow the account shown in G-Mark and that is why I see a wholly different story, I think.

[kjw47]

God only accepts worship in spirit and truth-John 4:22-24-- Only what God thinks will have any meaning then. The same now. Thats why Jesus taught--Man does not live by bread alone, but by EVERY utterance from God. 1540 pages of utterances give or take. Few bothered.

But you haven't used the title 'Jehovah' once in that post. You've used the title 'God' that my bible uses.

I notice that you usually quote from John, the focus seems to be upon John with some quotations from Matthew. I tend to follow the account shown in G-Mark and that is why I see a wholly different story, I think.

Gods truth doesnt contradict itself. Trinity translations contradict Gods truth because there are errors translated in.

[Miles]

God only accepts worship in spirit and truth-John 4:22-24-- Only what God thinks will have any meaning then. The same now. Thats why Jesus taught--Man does not live by bread alone, but by EVERY utterance from God. 1540 pages of utterances give or take. Few bothered.

But you haven't used the title 'Jehovah' once in that post. You've used the title 'God' that my bible uses.

I notice that you usually quote from John, the focus seems to be upon John with some quotations from Matthew. I tend to follow the account shown in G-Mark and that is why I see a wholly different story, I think.

Gods truth doesnt contradict itself. Trinity translations contradict Gods truth because there are errors translated in.

TRUTH 1
“The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father…” — Ezekiel 18:20

CONTRADICTION

TRUTH 2
“I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation…” — Exodus 20:5

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[kjw47]

God only accepts worship in spirit and truth-John 4:22-24-- Only what God thinks will have any meaning then. The same now. Thats why Jesus taught--Man does not live by bread alone, but by EVERY utterance from God. 1540 pages of utterances give or take. Few bothered.

But you haven't used the title 'Jehovah' once in that post. You've used the title 'God' that my bible uses.

I notice that you usually quote from John, the focus seems to be upon John with some quotations from Matthew. I tend to follow the account shown in G-Mark and that is why I see a wholly different story, I think.

Gods truth doesnt contradict itself. Trinity translations contradict Gods truth because there are errors translated in.

TRUTH 1
“The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father…” — Ezekiel 18:20

CONTRADICTION

TRUTH 2


“I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation…” — Exodus 20:5

,

I believe its because the Fathers handed down the same wicked practices to their children. That is one of satans #1 tools, to this day it occurs with 99% on earth. Many worship false gods, many pagan practices off the table of demons( 1Cor 10:21) in the worlds celebrations, etc.

[oldbadger]

Gods truth doesnt contradict itself. Trinity translations contradict Gods truth because there are errors translated in.

Have you enough detailed knowledge of the gospels to recognise any contradictions?
In your bible:-
What does G-John say that Jesus did in the Temple on Palm Sunday? What does G-Mark say that Jesus did in the Temple on Palm Sunday?
Or the next day, Monday? Or Tuesday?

Have you actually read the gospels with that much care, or have you been more interested in 'eternal-life' aspects?