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How many religions came from America?

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Is it evidence for or against religions if they came from America?

For instance Mormonism and Jehovah's Witnesses. Are there more? Scientology. Any more?

I would argue it is evidence against the religion because America has quite literally nothing the to do with the Bible. What other evidence flows from a religion coming from America?
Proverbs 18:17 The one who states his case first seems right, until the other comes and examines him.

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oldbadger wrote: Mon Nov 07, 2022 1:35 am
kjw47 wrote: Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:29 pm
Fallen angels = demons. Lead by satan a fallen angel.
And so........ you do believe in demons...... true?
Can angels and demons be seen? Have you or any of your friends seen these?
Jesus did many things. Taught exactlywhat hisFather taught him to teach-John 5:30
Jesus was not a particularly good teacher, even his close friends sometimes had trouble in grasping what he was trying to tell them.
And, Yes, Jesus did many things, and I think it's sad when Christians seem to be unaware of or disinterested in those accounts.

God was as well trying to keep satan and his angels in spiritual darkness, so he couldn't screw it all up like he tried through the religion that came out of Rome.

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kjw47 wrote: Mon Nov 07, 2022 6:58 pm
God was as well trying to keep satan and his angels in spiritual darkness, so he couldn't screw it all up like he tried through the religion that came out of Rome.
So that's why you don't get to actually get to see demons.... God keeps them in spiritual darkness.
I've often wondered how Satan manages to do anything since he's certainly under your God's thumb.

And ........ how on earth did Satan, kept in spiritual darkness by God, manage to build a religion so vast that it includes about a billion followers of various creeds/churches? How did that happen?

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oldbadger wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 2:22 am
kjw47 wrote: Mon Nov 07, 2022 6:58 pm
God was as well trying to keep satan and his angels in spiritual darkness, so he couldn't screw it all up like he tried through the religion that came out of Rome.
So that's why you don't get to actually get to see demons.... God keeps them in spiritual darkness.
I've often wondered how Satan manages to do anything since he's certainly under your God's thumb.

And ........ how on earth did Satan, kept in spiritual darkness by God, manage to build a religion so vast that it includes about a billion followers of various creeds/churches? How did that happen?

Satan has 99% minimum mislead in these last days. He is the god of this system of things, blinding the minds of those-2Cor 4:4

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kjw47 wrote: Wed Nov 09, 2022 9:14 pm Satan has 99% minimum mislead in these last days. He is the god of this system of things, blinding the minds of those-2Cor 4:4
2 Cor . {4:3} But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: {4:4} In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

The light of the glorious gospel?
Let me say, Paul or whoever wrote this letter never wrote a single sentence about anything that Jesus said or did during his mission, apart from that last meal and those few hours later. He wasn't the least bit interested in Jesus ....couldn't have been.

He just went ahead and built up his church completely regardless of what Jesus or his followers really wanted....... is that the wickedness that you have spoken about before?

Is Paul acting for your God, or for Satan?

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oldbadger wrote: Thu Nov 10, 2022 2:30 am
kjw47 wrote: Wed Nov 09, 2022 9:14 pm Satan has 99% minimum mislead in these last days. He is the god of this system of things, blinding the minds of those-2Cor 4:4
2 Cor . {4:3} But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: {4:4} In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

The light of the glorious gospel?
Let me say, Paul or whoever wrote this letter never wrote a single sentence about anything that Jesus said or did during his mission, apart from that last meal and those few hours later. He wasn't the least bit interested in Jesus ....couldn't have been.

He just went ahead and built up his church completely regardless of what Jesus or his followers really wanted....... is that the wickedness that you have spoken about before?

Is Paul acting for your God, or for Satan?
Jesus commissioned Paul-- What Jesus teaches are in the 4 gospels. No need to teach the same stuff over and over by Paul. Paul taught other true things.

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kjw47 wrote: Thu Nov 10, 2022 5:46 pm
Jesus commissioned Paul-- What Jesus teaches are in the 4 gospels. No need to teach the same stuff over and over by Paul. Paul taught other true things.
I prefer to think of the gospels as accounts about what Jesus did. Obviously that includes what he said.

Now..... You tell me that Jesus commissioned Paul.
Paul was therefore ordained to teach other things.
Paul and others built the church...... including the Roman church.

Yes? Is that about right? So how did Paul's letters, the gospels and other NT writings come from Satan?
How is the Holy Roman Apostolic Church driven by Satan?

By the way..... I'm not a Catholic.

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oldbadger wrote: Fri Nov 11, 2022 2:14 am
kjw47 wrote: Thu Nov 10, 2022 5:46 pm
Jesus commissioned Paul-- What Jesus teaches are in the 4 gospels. No need to teach the same stuff over and over by Paul. Paul taught other true things.
I prefer to think of the gospels as accounts about what Jesus did. Obviously that includes what he said.

Now..... You tell me that Jesus commissioned Paul.
Paul was therefore ordained to teach other things.
Paul and others built the church...... including the Roman church.

Yes? Is that about right? So how did Paul's letters, the gospels and other NT writings come from Satan?
How is the Holy Roman Apostolic Church driven by Satan?

By the way..... I'm not a Catholic.

Paul had nothing to do with the religion that came out of Rome that became Catholicism=2Thess 2:3=The son of destruction( Peredition) = the great apostasy. They held councils and came up with many false teachings-The biggest being a trinity God. It does not exist. They also translated errors in by satans will to fit their false council teachings. The biggest = a capitol G God in the last line at John 1:1--Their own translating-Greek Lexicons shows its an error.

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kjw47 wrote: Fri Nov 11, 2022 7:23 pm
Paul had nothing to do with the religion that came out of Rome that became Catholicism=2Thess 2:3=The son of destruction( Peredition) = the great apostasy. They held councils and came up with many false teachings-The biggest being a trinity God. It does not exist. They also translated errors in by satans will to fit their false council teachings. The biggest = a capitol G God in the last line at John 1:1--Their own translating-Greek Lexicons shows its an error.
But........ you have errors in your bible as well.
Mark 1:1 The beginning of the good news about Jesus Christ, the Son of God:

The earliest copies of G-Mark do not show 'Son of God', and even the NIV translation warns about this.
Do you believe that Jesus was/is God's son? But your bible hasn't sorted that out.

And one question for you:-
In the earliest copies of Paul's letters, what title does he use for God? It certainly is not Jehovah......true?

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oldbadger wrote: Sat Nov 12, 2022 1:50 am
kjw47 wrote: Fri Nov 11, 2022 7:23 pm
Paul had nothing to do with the religion that came out of Rome that became Catholicism=2Thess 2:3=The son of destruction( Peredition) = the great apostasy. They held councils and came up with many false teachings-The biggest being a trinity God. It does not exist. They also translated errors in by satans will to fit their false council teachings. The biggest = a capitol G God in the last line at John 1:1--Their own translating-Greek Lexicons shows its an error.
But........ you have errors in your bible as well.
Mark 1:1 The beginning of the good news about Jesus Christ, the Son of God:

The earliest copies of G-Mark do not show 'Son of God', and even the NIV translation warns about this.
Do you believe that Jesus was/is God's son? But your bible hasn't sorted that out.

And one question for you:-
In the earliest copies of Paul's letters, what title does he use for God? It certainly is not Jehovah......true?

Gods name belongs in the NT about 200 spots, where the OT is quoted and the name should be there in the OT. Jerome, prior to translating the Latin Vulgate told the Pope Gods name belonged in those spots. I dont know if it was allowed.
Jesus is the son of God.

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kjw47 wrote: Sat Nov 12, 2022 6:02 pm
Gods name belongs in the NT about 200 spots, where the OT is quoted and the name should be there in the OT. Jerome, prior to translating the Latin Vulgate told the Pope Gods name belonged in those spots. I dont know if it was allowed.
Jesus is the son of God.
But......... why do you call Him 'God'? You mentioned 'God' three times in that post, and not Jehovah. Yet previously you seemed to suggest that this title was a 'devil' manipulation?

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