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How many religions came from America?

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Is it evidence for or against religions if they came from America?

For instance Mormonism and Jehovah's Witnesses. Are there more? Scientology. Any more?

I would argue it is evidence against the religion because America has quite literally nothing the to do with the Bible. What other evidence flows from a religion coming from America?
Proverbs 18:17 The one who states his case first seems right, until the other comes and examines him.

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Difflugia wrote: Tue Oct 18, 2022 8:01 pm
kjw47 wrote: Tue Oct 18, 2022 7:49 pmI share facts-- Facts expose the darkness.
You've badly misspelled "hopeful, but groundless speculations." When you've finished with you're misplaced bravado, perhaps you'd like to get on with explaining why I'm wrong.

On a related note, does Reasoning from the Scriptures mention that one should take the last word at all cost, even if a Witness has nothing new to say? That seems to be a pattern.

All who wont believe Jesus are in error.

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kjw47 wrote: Tue Oct 18, 2022 9:24 pmAll who wont believe Jesus are in error.
Anyone that actually believes what the Bible says would believe that Matthew contradicts Acts.
My pronouns are he, him, and his.

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Difflugia wrote: Tue Oct 18, 2022 9:37 pm
kjw47 wrote: Tue Oct 18, 2022 9:24 pmAll who wont believe Jesus are in error.
Anyone that actually believes what the Bible says would believe that Matthew contradicts Acts.

There are no contradictions in Gods word. There are many in trinity translations. They contradict Jesus to the core.

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kjw47 wrote: Tue Oct 18, 2022 4:00 pm No there are other errors to try and make it show Jesus is God as well. One proven error--Out of the Catholic Archives back in the 60,s or 70,s--proof was brought out that-The spirit, water and blood are the 3 witness bearers, Catholicism had the Father, son, and holy spirit in that passage, that carried into all translations until the proof was brought out. But those werent allowed back in the archives for exposing that truth. Many translations have changed to the truth in that spot. Many more would have been found if the search was allowed to continue. Only those trying to mislead ones by satans will would put errors in over Gods truth.
Those aren't in my KJV bible, kjw47, so i won't be able to look those up.

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kjw47 wrote: Tue Oct 18, 2022 4:01 pm He didnt get arrested for that occurrence, only after Judas sold him was he arrested.
Do you think that maybe the turning over of the money tables etc didn't happen during that last week?
John's gospel doesn't mention it during that week at all.

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kjw47 wrote: Tue Oct 18, 2022 4:02 pm I doubt they are contradictions.
...just differences, maybe.

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kjw47 wrote: Tue Oct 18, 2022 6:52 pm There is conflict in everything--in 1822 a Greek scholar, using trinity translated Greek Lexicons translated the NT, A.Kneeland, he compared Greek and English side by side to prove to the world-a god is correct in the last line at John 1:1, the way its written in the Greek lexicons. 19 other translations had a god, 3 had was divine-All rejected by trinity clergys because truth exposes them as false religions.
Yes, I feel sure that your gospels are fairly translated, but since no Galilean boatman, publican or nagara knew, wrote or spoke Greek we know that the original happenings, speech, culture etc was different to the gospel stories. I just wish that it had been possible for a close follower of Jesus to write his story in Eastern Aramaic but they couldn't write.

And I don't think that God has helped ...... he certainly would not have waited One thousand Eight hundred and twenty two years to send a messenger and the real story to humanity. It's taken me 28 years to unravel any kind of possible history out of all this, like wandering in thick fog.

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kjw47 wrote: Tue Oct 18, 2022 9:24 pm All who wont believe Jesus are in error.
I believe in history of Jesus...that he was real, but my ideas about him differ from your beliefs.
I think its very important to acknowledge the beliefs of other people, and I acknowledge yours.
But it's very sad that the vast majority of people who I speak with will not and do not acknowledge the existence of other beliefs.
I now feel that the ability to acknowledge others and their freedom of mind is the foundation for peace.

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kjw47 wrote: Tue Oct 18, 2022 9:48 pm There are no contradictions in Gods word. There are many in trinity translations. They contradict Jesus to the core.
Apart from mentions about Trinity, are there any others in the other bibles?

for example:-
Can I believe that Jesus preferred and chose friends over family?
Can I believe that Jesus loved his food and wine, sometimes to excess?
Can I believe that Jesus was a poor teacher, often not understood?
etc?

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oldbadger wrote: Wed Oct 19, 2022 1:53 am
kjw47 wrote: Tue Oct 18, 2022 6:52 pm There is conflict in everything--in 1822 a Greek scholar, using trinity translated Greek Lexicons translated the NT, A.Kneeland, he compared Greek and English side by side to prove to the world-a god is correct in the last line at John 1:1, the way its written in the Greek lexicons. 19 other translations had a god, 3 had was divine-All rejected by trinity clergys because truth exposes them as false religions.
Yes, I feel sure that your gospels are fairly translated, but since no Galilean boatman, publican or nagara knew, wrote or spoke Greek we know that the original happenings, speech, culture etc was different to the gospel stories. I just wish that it had been possible for a close follower of Jesus to write his story in Eastern Aramaic but they couldn't write.

And I don't think that God has helped ...... he certainly would not have waited One thousand Eight hundred and twenty two years to send a messenger and the real story to humanity. It's taken me 28 years to unravel any kind of possible history out of all this, like wandering in thick fog.

Were you referring to the start of the JW religion? There was alot of truth understood prior to them. All could live by those truths if they loved God and his son. Up until these last days, all have died and paid the wages of sin. In these last days, the separating of the sheep and goats will occur during the tribulation--The sheep may never have to taste death, thus they need all the truth to be acceptable by God-John 4:22-24--And Daniel 12:4 assures it becomes abundant here in these last days.

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