Zygote

[Wootah]

Every cell in my 47 year old body is doing its best to keep me alive and to divide and split and produce me. This happened from cell 1 to cell 37.2 trillion. All of them, following their programming and making me ongoingly across time.

How is the zygote of a human not a human again?

[Wootah]

[Replying to Athetotheist in post #10]

Fairly sure the rules say posting links and videos is not debating.

[Athetotheist]

[Replying to Athetotheist in post #10]

Fairly sure the rules say posting links and videos is not debating.

I've noticed that posting links and videos is a common practice around here, and quoting sources to back up a position most certainly is debating.

[Wootah]

But my argument is: Cells from zygote to me at 47 only ever function to propagate me across time.

[Athetotheist]

But my argument is: Cells from zygote to me at 47 only ever function to propagate me across time.

How is the zygote of a human not a human again?

You're arguing that a zygote is a human being, right?

[Wootah]

But my argument is: Cells from zygote to me at 47 only ever function to propagate me across time.

How is the zygote of a human not a human again?

You're arguing that a zygote is a human being, right?

Yes, the cells in my body are propagating me across time. That seems to begin from the first cell to now.

[Athetotheist]

But my argument is: Cells from zygote to me at 47 only ever function to propagate me across time.

How is the zygote of a human not a human again?

You're arguing that a zygote is a human being, right?

Yes, the cells in my body are propagating me across time. That seems to begin from the first cell to now.

Then your argument is not supported by the texts of the major religions mentioned earlier.

[Wootah]

Then your argument is not supported by the texts of the major religions mentioned earlier.

What? This the right and wrong forum. We are working out if we can kill a human just because they are a zygote and learning that our cells from t = 0 to t = now are working to propagate us over time and so that whatever we kill at t=0 or t=now is a human. So if killing humans is wrong, then it's wrong at t=0 or t=now.

[Athetotheist]

Then your argument is not supported by the texts of the major religions mentioned earlier.

What? This the right and wrong forum. We are working out if we can kill a human just because they are a zygote and learning that our cells from t = 0 to t = now are working to propagate us over time and so that whatever we kill at t=0 or t=now is a human. So if killing humans is wrong, then it's wrong at t=0 or t=now.

Are we working out if we can kill a human......

......or are we working out if we can abort a zygote without killing a human?

[Wootah]

[Replying to Athetotheist in post #18]

You would have to make an argument first then I can work out what you are trying to argue.

Given that our cells from t = 0 to t = now are working to propagate us over time then whatever we kill at t=0 to t=now is a human. So if killing humans is wrong, then it's wrong at t=0 or t=now.

What part of that isn't just plainly true?

[Athetotheist]

[Replying to Wootah in post #19

Given that our cells from t = 0 to t = now are working to propagate us over time then whatever we kill at t=0 to t=now is a human. So if killing humans is wrong, then it's wrong at t=0 or t=now.

Haircuts and nail-trimming are murder? I think that blurs the line between human material and human life.

Edit: Maybe I'm misunderstanding you here. You seem to be arguing that ending all cellular life at any point is killing a human. As I cited elsewhere, there are major religious perspectives in disagreement with that.