Build Your Own Universe
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Galphanore
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Build Your Own Universe
Post #1There are some scientists that are considering building their own universe by creating a big bang from about 10 pounds of matter, and only 10 ^-26 cm across. Assuming that he is correct, would it then expand into a different dimension or am I somewhat justified in my slight apprehension that they're planning to blow us all up?
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Post #21
I am not sure I want to recreate the big bang theory. But I think the proof of other dimensions is a about as strong as the proof for God is. I also think there are more equations to validate the notion that if one created a new universe, it would simply be another dot represented on a the vast Landscape.Greatest I Am wrote:No other dimension has ever been proven, therefore if we were to create another big bang then it would expand in our present dimension and universe and of course kill us all.
We should take comfort in the fact that we cannot create a big bang.
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I think we are better off following QED's suggestion here:
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I think this represents the hardest implications for theism as although we could still ask who designed such a thing, if a proper perspective is maintained it would seem to erase all certainties about Final Causes and the intentions of the creator. Clearly it is all very hypothetical at the moment but it seems to me that the theologian is forced to reject this possibility outright while the free-thinker™ is able to keep an open mind on something that has (what I would characterize as) a certain resonance within the world that we are already familiar with.
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Post #22
Possibly.QED wrote:Your use of the word "therefore" would only seem to be appropriate if you had saidGreatest I Am wrote:No other dimension has ever been proven, therefore if we were to create another big bang then it would expand in our present dimension and universe and of course kill us all.Other dimensions have been proven to be false, therefore...
Thing is we cannot prove a negative. We cannot prove something false without finding it. Catch 22.
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Post #23
On the contrary, we can prove a negative.Greatest I Am wrote:Possibly.QED wrote:Your use of the word "therefore" would only seem to be appropriate if you had saidGreatest I Am wrote:No other dimension has ever been proven, therefore if we were to create another big bang then it would expand in our present dimension and universe and of course kill us all.Other dimensions have been proven to be false, therefore...
Thing is we cannot prove a negative. We cannot prove something false without finding it. Catch 22.
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I can prove there is no apple currently in my drawer. That is a negative.
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Perhaps it is in another dimension. Perhaps your eyes are.goat wrote:On the contrary, we can prove a negative.Greatest I Am wrote:Possibly.QED wrote:Your use of the word "therefore" would only seem to be appropriate if you had saidGreatest I Am wrote:No other dimension has ever been proven, therefore if we were to create another big bang then it would expand in our present dimension and universe and of course kill us all.Other dimensions have been proven to be false, therefore...
Thing is we cannot prove a negative. We cannot prove something false without finding it. Catch 22.
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I can prove there is no apple currently in my drawer. That is a negative.
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If the apple is in another dimension it is not in his drawer. We are not talking about his eyes. We are talking about proving a negative and the apple not being in his drawer.Greatest I Am wrote:Perhaps it is in another dimension. Perhaps your eyes are.goat wrote:On the contrary, we can prove a negative.Greatest I Am wrote:Possibly.QED wrote:Your use of the word "therefore" would only seem to be appropriate if you had saidGreatest I Am wrote:No other dimension has ever been proven, therefore if we were to create another big bang then it would expand in our present dimension and universe and of course kill us all.Other dimensions have been proven to be false, therefore...
Thing is we cannot prove a negative. We cannot prove something false without finding it. Catch 22.
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I can prove there is no apple currently in my drawer. That is a negative.
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Perhaps it is an invisible apple with supernatural powers to give life and forgive sins. We can not explore it because it is supernatural, but it is there all the same. It sent its son, applesauce, to Goats notepad to write down instructions as to how to also save yourself and end up in the drawer with the apple so you can all become applesauce and live forever in the apple kingdom.Cathar1950 wrote:If the apple is in another dimension it is not in his drawer. We are not talking about his eyes. We are talking about proving a negative and the apple not being in his drawer.Greatest I Am wrote:Perhaps it is in another dimension. Perhaps your eyes are.goat wrote:On the contrary, we can prove a negative.Greatest I Am wrote:Possibly.QED wrote:Your use of the word "therefore" would only seem to be appropriate if you had saidGreatest I Am wrote:No other dimension has ever been proven, therefore if we were to create another big bang then it would expand in our present dimension and universe and of course kill us all.Other dimensions have been proven to be false, therefore...
Thing is we cannot prove a negative. We cannot prove something false without finding it. Catch 22.
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I can prove there is no apple currently in my drawer. That is a negative.
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If it is invisible, and has supernatural powers, by definition , it won't be an appleachilles12604 wrote:Perhaps it is an invisible apple with supernatural powers to give life and forgive sins. We can not explore it because it is supernatural, but it is there all the same. It sent its son, applesauce, to Goats notepad to write down instructions as to how to also save yourself and end up in the drawer with the apple so you can all become applesauce and live forever in the apple kingdom.Cathar1950 wrote:If the apple is in another dimension it is not in his drawer. We are not talking about his eyes. We are talking about proving a negative and the apple not being in his drawer.Greatest I Am wrote:Perhaps it is in another dimension. Perhaps your eyes are.goat wrote:On the contrary, we can prove a negative.Greatest I Am wrote:Possibly.QED wrote:Your use of the word "therefore" would only seem to be appropriate if you had saidGreatest I Am wrote:No other dimension has ever been proven, therefore if we were to create another big bang then it would expand in our present dimension and universe and of course kill us all.Other dimensions have been proven to be false, therefore...
Thing is we cannot prove a negative. We cannot prove something false without finding it. Catch 22.
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DL
I can prove there is no apple currently in my drawer. That is a negative.
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It is. You just don't want to mess with this apple.goat wrote:If it is invisible, and has supernatural powers, by definition , it won't be an appleachilles12604 wrote:Perhaps it is an invisible apple with supernatural powers to give life and forgive sins. We can not explore it because it is supernatural, but it is there all the same. It sent its son, applesauce, to Goats notepad to write down instructions as to how to also save yourself and end up in the drawer with the apple so you can all become applesauce and live forever in the apple kingdom.Cathar1950 wrote:If the apple is in another dimension it is not in his drawer. We are not talking about his eyes. We are talking about proving a negative and the apple not being in his drawer.Greatest I Am wrote:Perhaps it is in another dimension. Perhaps your eyes are.goat wrote:On the contrary, we can prove a negative.Greatest I Am wrote:Possibly.QED wrote:Your use of the word "therefore" would only seem to be appropriate if you had saidGreatest I Am wrote:No other dimension has ever been proven, therefore if we were to create another big bang then it would expand in our present dimension and universe and of course kill us all.Other dimensions have been proven to be false, therefore...
Thing is we cannot prove a negative. We cannot prove something false without finding it. Catch 22.
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DL
I can prove there is no apple currently in my drawer. That is a negative.
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Post #29
Can you prove there has never been an apple in your drawer?goat wrote:On the contrary, we can prove a negative.Greatest I Am wrote:Possibly.QED wrote:Your use of the word "therefore" would only seem to be appropriate if you had saidGreatest I Am wrote:No other dimension has ever been proven, therefore if we were to create another big bang then it would expand in our present dimension and universe and of course kill us all.Other dimensions have been proven to be false, therefore...
Thing is we cannot prove a negative. We cannot prove something false without finding it. Catch 22.
Regards
DL
I can prove there is no apple currently in my drawer. That is a negative.
What we do for ourselves dies with us,
What we do for others and the world remains
and is immortal.
-Albert Pine
Never be bullied into silence.
Never allow yourself to be made a victim.
Accept no one persons definition of your life; define yourself.
-Harvey Fierstein
What we do for others and the world remains
and is immortal.
-Albert Pine
Never be bullied into silence.
Never allow yourself to be made a victim.
Accept no one persons definition of your life; define yourself.
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No, I can't. I was just pointing out that there are some negatives that can be 'proven'Confused wrote:Can you prove there has never been an apple in your drawer?goat wrote:On the contrary, we can prove a negative.Greatest I Am wrote:Possibly.QED wrote:Your use of the word "therefore" would only seem to be appropriate if you had saidGreatest I Am wrote:No other dimension has ever been proven, therefore if we were to create another big bang then it would expand in our present dimension and universe and of course kill us all.Other dimensions have been proven to be false, therefore...
Thing is we cannot prove a negative. We cannot prove something false without finding it. Catch 22.
Regards
DL
I can prove there is no apple currently in my drawer. That is a negative.
